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Pandemic and budget strain: Will any schools drop hockey?

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MTUHuskies said:
Good news on the rink. Last rumours I had heard were that they didn't have any tangible progress.

As for not playing D1, your other choice in the NCAA is D3. To play D3 hockey all teams at the school must play D3. It would shock me if any current D1 schools went that route.

Tech played at Gila River a few years back. In my mind that's kind of a Catch 22. NHL rinks are nice but 8000 fans in an 18,000 seat rink kills the atmosphere. I'd much rather see a game in a full 4000 seat arena - but that's s whole different topic. Playing in Phoenix is a great opportunity for alumni in the southwest to see them play. This season with the games at Oceanside, many were not able to get tickets. From those who did attend, I've only heard negative comments about the rink.

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Good point on D1/D3, and on playing at Gila.
And, yes, Oceanside is a dump. And TV camera angles are so low its hard to follow the puck on TV. And even more importantly, as you point out, its next to impossible to get tix to get in. I used to get into the club team games there for $5 or free and plenty of seating in its older configuration (100 seats?). But I made the mistake of not grabbing season tix the first day they issued them. I didn't think that demand was there yet. Would be interesting to know how many snowbirds grabbed up on them and then just sell the tix for the games they don't go to.
 
Sol Diablo said:
Now concerning schools that can't afford D1 hockey, they can go to D2, D3, club without all sports having to do the same. I recall MTU is like D2 in football but D1 in hockey. UND is D1 hockey but FCS - formerly known as D2 in football, lots of other examples. However I am hoping no schools will have to go that route and more schools will enter D1.
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A D1 school cannot drop one sport to D3. That’s not allowed. It’s all or nothing.

A D3 school playing one sport up (like Clarkson) would lose that grandfather rule forever and never be able to move back up.
 
Re: Pandemic and budget strain: Will any schools drop hockey?

Do schools get discounts on airline travel? With that industry a mess for some time, I wonder if it just gets too difficult for some or if any discounts and flight routes go away.

I suppose we could also see a realignment instead. Miami might not want to fly out West so much and might think the new CCHA is more attractive now.
 
lakersparty said:
Do schools get discounts on airline travel? With that industry a mess for some time, I wonder if it just gets too difficult for some or if any discounts and flight routes go away.

I suppose we could also see a realignment instead. Miami might not want to fly out West so much and might think the new CCHA is more attractive now.
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Not much for discounts. The more seats that get sold, the more expensive the next one gets. LSSU often busses 5+ hrs to Detroit for flights. NMU 6 hr to Chicago or 7 to Minneapolis and Bemidji 4 hr to Minneapolis for their Alaska flights.

As for Miami switching leagues, would the be willing to pay the NCHC’s $1.5 million exit fee?
 
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pdt1081 said:
A letter has already been filed (weeks ago) asking for an exemption on minimum number of sports and minimum football attendance.
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That was already declined in late April by the NCAA.
"The NCAA Division I Council denied a request to temporarily waive the minimum number of sports required to be a Division I member..." Source, AP
 
ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
IIRC, that and Westerns (rumored lack of) willingness to go with them are the entirety of the reason it hasn’t yet happened.
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It will be interesting what happens with college football. I’d have to think the MAC schools in particular will have some vulnerabilities if college football isn’t played. I also wonder if lawyers can argue their way out of an exit fee considering the unprecedented situation.
 
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lakersparty said:
It will be interesting what happens with college football. I’d have to think the MAC schools in particular will have some vulnerabilities if college football isn’t played. I also wonder if lawyers can argue their way out of an exit fee considering the unprecedented situation.
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I think that would be one helluva lawyer seeing as all teams are affected by it. I'm no lawyer, but I'd think it would be easier to argue the league's position.

I could see the possibility that Miami & Mankato swap without any fees.

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lakersparty said:
It will be interesting what happens with college football. I’d have to think the MAC schools in particular will have some vulnerabilities if college football isn’t played. I also wonder if lawyers can argue their way out of an exit fee considering the unprecedented situation.
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Those contracts aren’t going to be picked apart that easy. If they were, it would basically render all the schools contracts with their conferences invalid across all sports.

As for a swap of Miami for Mankato, you have to not only get both schools, but both conferences to agree. If Bemidji weren’t part of the package, they’d turn it down, Tech would likely vote against it as would NMU. Oxford is nearly 700 miles for both Tech & NMU and Mankato is under 475 for both. At best you have a 3-3 vote among the remaining CCHA teams. As dominant as Mankato has been, flipping them for Miami wouldn’t do anything to help the CCHA on a national level.
 
Re: Pandemic and budget strain: Will any schools drop hockey?

lakersparty said:
It will be interesting what happens with college football. I’d have to think the MAC schools in particular will have some vulnerabilities if college football isn’t played. I also wonder if lawyers can argue their way out of an exit fee considering the unprecedented situation.
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The MAC just canceled conference tournaments in field hockey, men's soccer, women's soccer, men's tennis, women's tennis, women's lacrosse, softball and baseball. They made alternations in formats for nine other championships – volleyball (four-team), men's basketball (eight-team), women's basketball (eight-team), men's swimming & diving (three-day), women's swimming & diving (three-day), men's indoor and outdoor track & field (two-day), women's indoor and outdoor track & field (two-day), men's golf (two-day) and women's golf (two-day)
 
Re: Pandemic and budget strain: Will any schools drop hockey?

davyd83 said:
Not much for discounts. The more seats that get sold, the more expensive the next one gets. LSSU often busses 5+ hrs to Detroit for flights. NMU 6 hr to Chicago or 7 to Minneapolis and Bemidji 4 hr to Minneapolis for their Alaska flights.
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They should of just bussed to whitehorse, just a nap longer if no problems getting acrooss the boarder .

davyd83 said:
As for Miami switching leagues, would the be willing to pay the NCHC’s $1.5 million exit fee?
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They are not going anywhere, unlike some of the Corona Cancelled Hockey Association teams.
 
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Dropping Baseball is surprising. But then again it's probably 4th in spending behind Football, Basketball and Hockey.
 
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The Zlax45 said:
There is zero revenue with a MAC baseball program.
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I was referencing spending, not earning ;)

They are still a D-1 baseball team, so there is a ton of spending happening. They will do their two weeks in Florida to start the year then head down to Texas, Cali, or Arizona for a week before starting their home slate the 1st week of March (flip FL and the West Coast if needed). Their conference slate is still traveling in nice motor coaches and staying at hotels better than a Super-8. The budget dwarfs anything you would find in the GLIAC or similar I'm sure. Hell, the MAC uses 3-man umpire crews at $1400/man + 4 nights hotel for each 3-game conference series. The Officials budget alone is north of $25,000.
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Dropping Baseball is surprising. But then again it's probably 4th in spending behind Football, Basketball and Hockey.
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Along with some summer furloughs it's saving $1.1 million. Every sport will have a budget cut. Need to get to $2 million. No more sports will be cut.
 
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