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Open Wheel Racing 2017, more wings and tires

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Check received by Takuma Sato dated May 29, 2017 -- $2.45 million.

Check received by Terry Frie dated May 29, 2017 -- $0.00.

Sucks to be a bigot...
 
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Well.... that was some experience. My son just kept telling me he thought he was dreaming. A few quick notes/thoughts. More coming later.
- Crowd wasn't as bad as I thought on Sunday. Traffic however was terrible as expected but only because it was terribly mismanaged.
- Lots of nice people in Indiana.
- Won VIP tickets from Indycar Nation to the Keith Urban show... let my son and wife go up there.
- Met Mark Miles and Douglas Boles, both really nice. Boles is impressive.
- Also met Emerson Fittipaldi in the fan zone with no one around him. Maybe I should have left him but he was nice for a pic and autograph. Legend!
- I wish they gave the drivers more time on the track on Carb Day
- Ed Jones was impressive as was Max Chilton. Alonso won ROY over Ed Jones, effing ridiculous. Also nice to see a Dale Coyne car do so well.
- Jack Harvey sucks and not only did he almost murder Dixon (plus huge impact to the standings) then he blamed it on RHR
- Honda should be gd ashamed of this fiasco and yet they are crowing about this victory.
- So happy for Sato. He's just so nice in person and will do a great job as the face of Indycar in these next 363 days. Funny that everyone talked about Alonso bringing over the F1 crowd and it will end up being Sato bringing over the Japan market.
- Would have liked to have seen this race at then end with Dixon involved plus the contenders that got hosed by Honda (RHR, Alonso, and even Kimball to some degree). That would have been insane.
- Have to tip your cap to Helio, the dude is a legend at the Brickyard. Man did the crowd love him too. Nice to see the other Penske drivers stink.
- Alonso was impressive.
- Andretti Autosport has been impressive.
- Love to see a guy like TK go right over to Sato on the victory lap and give him genuine love. TK is the greatest.
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Well.... that was some experience. My son just kept telling me he thought he was dreaming. A few quick notes/thoughts. More coming later.
- Crowd wasn't as bad as I thought on Sunday. Traffic however was terrible as expected but only because it was terribly mismanaged....

...- Love to see a guy like TK go right over to Sato on the victory lap and give him genuine love. TK is the greatest.
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Agree totally on TK. He really seems like one of sports true good guys. As well liked seeing Dario in victory lane offering congratulations to Sato, for much the same reason.

On the traffic, this is something that really perplexes me. Indy has been doing this for literally over a hundred years now. I have never been to a 500 but I attended the first 11 Brickyard 400s and for the first few we went the morning of the race and initially I was actually impressed with how they handled traffic, even with the huge crowds of attendees and hangers-on. But by around the 4th or 5th 400 it all went downhill. Traffic coming in was a nightmare. I had relatives who lived on 30th street a little more than a mile away from the gates. We could get to their house relatively easy from 1994-1997. After that it was a nightmare, and it got so bad we decided maybe it would be better to go down the night before. Same thing with exiting Indy afterwards. We always walked back to the relatives home and visited for a couple of hours after the race and left just after sundown. By then traffic was not an issue at all. But by 2000 even leaving 30th Street hours after the checkered flag, the traffic getting to 465 was still a nightmare. There were a number of reasons we stopped going (2004 was our last race there) but traffic headaches were chief among them.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
Agree totally on TK. He really seems like one of sports true good guys. As well liked seeing Dario in victory lane offering congratulations to Sato, for much the same reason.

On the traffic, this is something that really perplexes me. Indy has been doing this for literally over a hundred years now. I have never been to a 500 but I attended the first 11 Brickyard 400s and for the first few we went the morning of the race and initially I was actually impressed with how they handled traffic, even with the huge crowds of attendees and hangers-on. But by around the 4th or 5th 400 it all went downhill. Traffic coming in was a nightmare. I had relatives who lived on 30th street a little more than a mile away from the gates. We could get to their house relatively easy from 1994-1997. After that it was a nightmare, and it got so bad we decided maybe it would be better to go down the night before. Same thing with exiting Indy afterwards. We always walked back to the relatives home and visited for a couple of hours after the race and left just after sundown. By then traffic was not an issue at all. But by 2000 even leaving 30th Street hours after the checkered flag, the traffic getting to 465 was still a nightmare. There were a number of reasons we stopped going (2004 was our last race there) but traffic headaches were chief among them.
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Yea so we followed the plan they told us to using 30th street (we were parking IN the track on Turn 4). 1.1 miles to go we are there at 6:50 am and it took 2.5 hours to park from that point on. 5 LANES, and they have 2 lanes headed to the track and THREE LANES AWAY from it. Jesus Christ what Einsteen implemented this plan?

It was absolutely heinous. And apparently getting out was just as bad because Boles had actually tweeted that he was meeting with Speedway PD to figure out the problem leaving the north side of the track like it was worse than expected.
 
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Oh one last thing, we did have Alonso fly past us on his skateboard and we all thought it was one of the coolest things ever.
 
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Impressive sweep by Rahal this weekend... dominating. Then he goes on his Saturday news conference and takes a massive dump right on Lewis Hamilton's face. I was always lukewarm about Rahal but now I like him. :D
 
Nick Papagiorgio said:
Impressive sweep by Rahal this weekend... dominating. Then he goes on his Saturday news conference and takes a massive dump right on Lewis Hamilton's face. I was always lukewarm about Rahal but now I like him. :D
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What did he say? I know Tony Kanaan took a funny shot at Hamilton earlier in the week.
 
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Hamilton said it was funny that Alonso could qualify 5th in a car he drives once a year.

Rahal said it must suck having to only race your teammate every week.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Hamilton said it was funny that Alonso could qualify 5th in a car he drives once a year.

Rahal said it must suck having to only race your teammate every week.
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One can easily say that Fernando spent many more hours driving the Indy car than he has driving his McLaren. So it was easy to make up many years of lack of driving.
 
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I really liked how he heaped such praise on Dixon as well. Said if you put Dixon in a Mercedes, Lewis Hamilton would have his hands full.
 
Nick Papagiorgio said:
I really liked how he heaped such praise on Dixon as well. Said if you put Dixon in a Mercedes, Lewis Hamilton would have his hands full.
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Yes!

Also, I like Hamilton but that's terrible form for him to rip drivers in other series when he hasn't raced against them and certainly doesn't appear to have the guts to strap in at INDY.

And he has the audacity to talk NASCAR. I've got new for Lewis, with the exception of the 2 road courses he'll be an also ran in tin tops. Why? Because he's never raced sprints or midgets and has no idea how to handle a car that slides up each turn. It would be like Montoya' foray.
 
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OK folks.. time to weigh in on that crapshow in Texas. A lot of people thought it was amazing. I thought it good at times when people weren't driving like idiots. Stupid Sato!

TK also had a brainfart that blew up 8 cars in total. $1.8M in damage from Saturday night.

Too much damage. Too many yellows. Short oval racing is just not my thing right now. Dale Coyne hurting right now. But... what a great call again to bring in Vautier, who drive like a genius until he got crashed.
 
Nick Papagiorgio said:
OK folks.. time to weigh in on that crapshow in Texas. A lot of people thought it was amazing. I thought it good at times when people weren't driving like idiots. Stupid Sato!

TK also had a brainfart that blew up 8 cars in total. $1.8M in damage from Saturday night.

Too much damage. Too many yellows. Short oval racing is just not my thing right now. Dale Coyne hurting right now. But... what a great call again to bring in Vautier, who drive like a genius until he got crashed.
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Get rid of the grass, increase purses and for gods sake penalize the shot out of drivers who commit unforced errors in ovals. I love tk but that move was brain dead. Also Sato, that was a rookie move.

This is like everything else INDYCAR does. 1 step forward, 2 steps back.

Also, kill Detroit and replace with Milwaukee. Run twin 100's at the mile if you have to but do it the week after Indy and people will come back.
 
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solovsfett said:
Also, kill Detroit and replace with Milwaukee. Run twin 100's at the mile if you have to but do it the week after Indy and people will come back.
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How about move Milwaukee to the week after Indy, and then Detroit, and kill Texas. These 1.5m super fast ovals suck- they are close for the sake of being close, not really because of skill.

edit- just watched a replay of the end, and it really re-enforced my opinion. Oh, and seeing the accident in slo-mo- yea, you could call Sato a rookie. But at speed- TK did a quick move down, which would have spooked me, too. Seeing two cars basically hold up faster cars sucks, seeing them race that close isn't exciting, except for the real obvious danger, and it barely demonstrates driving skill when you are WOT like that.

At least Sato *tried* to pass the two. And broke up the side by side racing to the point that he might have passed one of them.
 
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I didn't know NASCAR raced at Baku. Holy crap! What was that? And was Busch driving that Ferrari, not Vettel...?
 
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Great to see Indycar get back on the right track, quite literally, after that Texas debacle. Road America is so good. Penske looked like they would easily got 1-4 and then Scott Dixon put in another masterful performance. Dixon truly is best in this generation. Aside from two awful wrecks (especially given Indy was double points) he has been consistently putting in solid top 5s or so with less than ideal cars in the first half of the season. It's been an impressive season so far. Have to think he'll be a big factor in two of his best tracks, Mid Ohio and Watkins Glen. Curious to see how he'll do in a Honda at Pocono as well.

Have to think the Captain is a little embarrassed #9 ruined his Penske Party this weekend.
 
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