Ohio State returns home after splitting with Minnesota-Duluth on the road this past weekend. That shows the improvement this team has made as UMD swept the Buckeyes in Columbus back in December. Ohio State will certainly have an opportunity to measure that improvement this weekend when #2-ranked Wisconsin visits the OSU Ice Rink. Wisconsin did not have much trouble with the Bucks last fall, sweeping both games by a combined score of 15-0 in the second weekend of the season. Wisconsin comes in with a record of 26-1-1 (20-1-1 WCHA), and I just saw on the WCHA website that junior netminder Ann-Renee Desbiens now has the third-most shutouts in NCAA history at 31, so I guess Ohio State isn't the only team she is shutting out. Wisconsin fans, let us know your thoughts on the season so far. I would say you have to be pleased. You are getting great goaltending (obviously), and your team is scoring enough goals to win games. I recall some Wisconsin fans early in the season were concerned regarding where the goals would come from. Your team has a legitimate shot to win it all this season. Safe travels to the Wisconsin fans who are making the trip to the OSU Ice Rink this weekend. Hopefully we see two good games and no injuries!
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Ohio State vs Wisconsin 2/5 - 2/6
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Ohio State vs Wisconsin 2/5 - 2/6
UW is having some issues scoring right now. Johnson juggled the lines this last weekend. He may have found a partial solution with Cogan playing with Pankowski and Clark. The D has been a little porous in allowing breakaways the last few weekend, but ARD has been spectacular. One of our best D has been hurt for months, but obviously it has not hurt in the performance of the D. I am hoping playing OSU and Mankato back to back will help them get their scoring juju back before the trip to rodentsota.
Overall I am surprised they are as good as they are this year. I knew ARD could be better than Rigsby, and she is. The O overall has been better than I thought. Clark is such a burner, she's on a roll right now.
UW is having some issues scoring right now. Johnson juggled the lines this last weekend. He may have found a partial solution with Cogan playing with Pankowski and Clark. The D has been a little porous in allowing breakaways the last few weekend, but ARD has been spectacular. One of our best D has been hurt for months, but obviously it has not hurt in the performance of the D. I am hoping playing OSU and Mankato back to back will help them get their scoring juju back before the trip to rodentsota.
Overall I am surprised they are as good as they are this year. I knew ARD could be better than Rigsby, and she is. The O overall has been better than I thought. Clark is such a burner, she's on a roll right now.
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Timothy A, thanks for the response to this thread. That is one heck of a team you have up there this year. It will be a big challenge for us this weekend. Mrs 86 and I are making the trip up to Madison next season. Last fall, the Wisconsin games fell on a weekend that Mrs 86 had to work, so we ended up going to Lindenwood the week before instead. OSU is such an outpost in the WCHA that all the road trips are far, but we try to get to one road trip a season. The last couple seasons it was Wisconsin (closest league team), this season it was Lindenwood.
Timothy A, thanks for the response to this thread. That is one heck of a team you have up there this year. It will be a big challenge for us this weekend. Mrs 86 and I are making the trip up to Madison next season. Last fall, the Wisconsin games fell on a weekend that Mrs 86 had to work, so we ended up going to Lindenwood the week before instead. OSU is such an outpost in the WCHA that all the road trips are far, but we try to get to one road trip a season. The last couple seasons it was Wisconsin (closest league team), this season it was Lindenwood.
Terry Switzer
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Re: Ohio State vs Wisconsin 2/5 - 2/6
For the first time I have seen more women's games this season then men games. Plan on going to New Hampshire.
For the first time I have seen more women's games this season then men games. Plan on going to New Hampshire.
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She seemed to be able to take the puck and keep it on her stick at will last weekend.
She seemed to be able to take the puck and keep it on her stick at will last weekend.
Badger Booster
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Re: Ohio State vs Wisconsin 2/5 - 2/6
http://www.uwbadgers.com/news/2016/2/4/WHOCKEY_0204160911.aspx
Series news/notes/videos via UW athletics.
I have to believe that the Buckeyes will be much more competitive than the first series in Madison. Ohio State was out-of-sync all weekend and the Badgers just jumped them.
http://www.uwbadgers.com/news/2016/2/4/WHOCKEY_0204160911.aspx
Series news/notes/videos via UW athletics.
I have to believe that the Buckeyes will be much more competitive than the first series in Madison. Ohio State was out-of-sync all weekend and the Badgers just jumped them.
frozenfeet
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Ohio State vs Wisconsin 2/5 - 2/6
He doesn't count.
Ya.. it was way back in October
He doesn't count.
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Yeah, I know, I should have mentioned John Harrington. When we played the Mavericks, the games were in the Schott so I couldn't get a picture or a handshake. Things aren't quite as intimate at the Schott as they are at the OSU Ice Rink. It's tough to even sneak downstairs to see my own team, let alone the other team or coaches.
Yeah, I know, I should have mentioned John Harrington. When we played the Mavericks, the games were in the Schott so I couldn't get a picture or a handshake. Things aren't quite as intimate at the Schott as they are at the OSU Ice Rink. It's tough to even sneak downstairs to see my own team, let alone the other team or coaches.
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I forget who said it, but I remember one Wisconsin poster saying it was the worst he had seen Ohio State look in years. I believe we have improved since then and agree that we'll be more competitive this time around. Here's to some good women's hockey this weekend and no injuries!
I forget who said it, but I remember one Wisconsin poster saying it was the worst he had seen Ohio State look in years. I believe we have improved since then and agree that we'll be more competitive this time around. Here's to some good women's hockey this weekend and no injuries!
Re: Ohio State vs Wisconsin 2/5 - 2/6
He was our guest for the coaches brunch this year and a heck of an entertainer! Johnson was good but not as good. Best lines while discussing "Miracle":
"My son saw it and called me up, Dad, you never played on the power play in your life!"
"At the party I thanked (director)David Anspaugh, he gave me more ice time than Brooks did!"
"Herb's son saw the final cut before it was released, I asked him what he thought: They didn't make dad mean enough!"
He also did a great job of discussing his team and their future.
He was our guest for the coaches brunch this year and a heck of an entertainer! Johnson was good but not as good. Best lines while discussing "Miracle":
"My son saw it and called me up, Dad, you never played on the power play in your life!"
"At the party I thanked (director)David Anspaugh, he gave me more ice time than Brooks did!"
"Herb's son saw the final cut before it was released, I asked him what he thought: They didn't make dad mean enough!"
He also did a great job of discussing his team and their future.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Ohio State vs Wisconsin 2/5 - 2/6
So what are the dimensions of the ice sheet being used this weekend? There's been some chatter about the smaller rink size. LaBahn is 200 x 90. NHL size is....200 x 85?
I expect OSU to play better than the first meeting as they are now used to the new systems and coaches.
So what are the dimensions of the ice sheet being used this weekend? There's been some chatter about the smaller rink size. LaBahn is 200 x 90. NHL size is....200 x 85?
I expect OSU to play better than the first meeting as they are now used to the new systems and coaches.
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You probably already know this, but an Olympic size hockey rink is 200x100. The extra 15 feet of width is really noticeable when you play on Olympic ice; there's tons of extra room. I've never been to LaBahn, but I'm guessing the 5 foot difference is much more subtle. Just a little bit of home ice advantage for the Badgers, but not a huge game-changer.
Finally, you need a little bit of history to complete this story. Pre-renovations -- meaning before the launch of OSU Women's Varsity Hockey in 1999-2000 -- the ice sheet was decidedly smaller. If memory serves, it was 187 feet long, meaning 13 feet shorter than the standard NHL length. It was also 2-3 feet narrow. Those dimensions are comparable to the old Chicago Stadium and the old Boston Garden. And yes, the small size definitely had a big impact on how the game was played; particularly in the unusually small neutral zone.
I bring this up because the Men's Varsity played on the 187 foot rink for many years. People from all corners of the college hockey world were aware that the Buckeye Men played on an unusually small ice sheet. For that reason, some hockey people from other campuses remain under the impression we're staging games using the old, compact size. But that's never been the case for the Women's Varsity. It's been 200x85 from the start.
You are correct about NHL size; and that is the stated size of the current OSU Ice Rink. I haven't gone out on the ice with a tape measure, but I believe it really is 200x85, or extremely close. As such, informed people are talking about the 5 foot difference in width.
You probably already know this, but an Olympic size hockey rink is 200x100. The extra 15 feet of width is really noticeable when you play on Olympic ice; there's tons of extra room. I've never been to LaBahn, but I'm guessing the 5 foot difference is much more subtle. Just a little bit of home ice advantage for the Badgers, but not a huge game-changer.
Finally, you need a little bit of history to complete this story. Pre-renovations -- meaning before the launch of OSU Women's Varsity Hockey in 1999-2000 -- the ice sheet was decidedly smaller. If memory serves, it was 187 feet long, meaning 13 feet shorter than the standard NHL length. It was also 2-3 feet narrow. Those dimensions are comparable to the old Chicago Stadium and the old Boston Garden. And yes, the small size definitely had a big impact on how the game was played; particularly in the unusually small neutral zone.
I bring this up because the Men's Varsity played on the 187 foot rink for many years. People from all corners of the college hockey world were aware that the Buckeye Men played on an unusually small ice sheet. For that reason, some hockey people from other campuses remain under the impression we're staging games using the old, compact size. But that's never been the case for the Women's Varsity. It's been 200x85 from the start.
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It has definitely been over-talked about in the links they've posted. 5 feet isn't going to change how the game is played - it's less than the length of an arm and a stick. 15 feet is a bigger difference because there's a significant enough addition of space (on a 100-foot wide rink) that allows for the attacking team to hold the puck in the corner with either reduced pressure or an opportunity that arises when a defenseman gets aggressive. Put another way, if a defenseman on an 85'-wide surface pressures a forward along the boards, the defenseman doesn't have to go all that far out to do so.
The extra 7 1/2 feet on each side is enough for a couple bodies to play outside of the "would be" boundaries of the 85'-wide surface.
I wish we could magically make all the rinks between 90 and 95 feet wide and call it a day. There's a little more room in the neutral zone than an NHL width, but there's a little less room for "cycle, cycle, look for Michael" than the standard European (non Finland division) width.
It has definitely been over-talked about in the links they've posted. 5 feet isn't going to change how the game is played - it's less than the length of an arm and a stick. 15 feet is a bigger difference because there's a significant enough addition of space (on a 100-foot wide rink) that allows for the attacking team to hold the puck in the corner with either reduced pressure or an opportunity that arises when a defenseman gets aggressive. Put another way, if a defenseman on an 85'-wide surface pressures a forward along the boards, the defenseman doesn't have to go all that far out to do so.
The extra 7 1/2 feet on each side is enough for a couple bodies to play outside of the "would be" boundaries of the 85'-wide surface.
I wish we could magically make all the rinks between 90 and 95 feet wide and call it a day. There's a little more room in the neutral zone than an NHL width, but there's a little less room for "cycle, cycle, look for Michael" than the standard European (non Finland division) width.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Ohio State vs Wisconsin 2/5 - 2/6
Thanks for the history, interesting.
I prefer 200 x 100. It's a lot harder to interfere when there's so much more room to cover and there's more space to create.
I agree the 5 feet wider than LaBahn is is rather insignificant.
Thanks for the history, interesting.
I prefer 200 x 100. It's a lot harder to interfere when there's so much more room to cover and there's more space to create.
I agree the 5 feet wider than LaBahn is is rather insignificant.
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I'd rather go with 100' or even wider if only that were possible. There are so many good men who get stifled by teams stuffing up the ice and never getting a chance to really show their stuff. BTW - word is that Mariucci is getting narrowed to 90' this summer. The explanation is that all the other B42 teams play on smaller surfaces. My guess it really has more to do with adding an extra row of seats and convincing the NHL wannabes that they can show teams they can clog up the ice and prevent hockey from being played well enough to start their AHL careers earlier.
I'd rather go with 100' or even wider if only that were possible. There are so many good men who get stifled by teams stuffing up the ice and never getting a chance to really show their stuff. BTW - word is that Mariucci is getting narrowed to 90' this summer. The explanation is that all the other B42 teams play on smaller surfaces. My guess it really has more to do with adding an extra row of seats and convincing the NHL wannabes that they can show teams they can clog up the ice and prevent hockey from being played well enough to start their AHL careers earlier.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Ohio State vs Wisconsin 2/5 - 2/6
Love the idea of going wider than 100. The the game flow with big strides and not be so choppy. Let speed kill and let's end the era of the power forward in hockey.
That's a bummer on the Mooch getting narrowed. Eaves has wanted to narrow the Kohl Center for years (200 x 97). People are so dumb.
Love the idea of going wider than 100. The the game flow with big strides and not be so choppy. Let speed kill and let's end the era of the power forward in hockey.
That's a bummer on the Mooch getting narrowed. Eaves has wanted to narrow the Kohl Center for years (200 x 97). People are so dumb.
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The rink Illinois's club team plays on is 115 feet wide.
I actually think the Kohl Center's rink should be narrower. Those upper deck side seats are just barely obstructed. (I've never been in those areas for hockey, but photos show that the guard rails are in line with the glass from up there.) 6 feet on each side (97' down to 85') could make quite a difference. The end seats are a different story, of course.
The rink Illinois's club team plays on is 115 feet wide.
I actually think the Kohl Center's rink should be narrower. Those upper deck side seats are just barely obstructed. (I've never been in those areas for hockey, but photos show that the guard rails are in line with the glass from up there.) 6 feet on each side (97' down to 85') could make quite a difference. The end seats are a different story, of course.