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Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19

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Hey, Payback's a Bi*ch and revenge is even sweeter!
If you want more drama we almost BEAT Clarkson but had a goal disallowed in regulation due to an interference call by the referee and could not get the job done in OT when the eventual TWO TIME DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPIONS won on a beautiful saucer pass from Giguere to Gabel who one timed it pass Sauve.

Corrected your post ;) . I just love using the words TWO TIME DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPIONS :rolleyes: :D.
 
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The victory press has a good article about Sauve and the summer. https://t.co/4Ma4UDO5Vt

Really an interesting read. Especially getting to know her physical issues on a weekly basis and how she had to deal with those issues both physically and mentally. The other thing we had heard and now confirmed was her wanting to make life easier on her parents from a travel standpoint (4 Hrs to Potsdam vs 7+ Hrs to Columbus). She gets high marks from me on that alone.
 
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Really an interesting read. Especially getting to know her physical issues on a weekly basis and how she had to deal with those issues both physically and mentally. The other thing we had heard and now confirmed was her wanting to make life easier on her parents from a travel standpoint (4 Hrs to Potsdam vs 7+ Hrs to Columbus). She gets high marks from me on that alone.

Being closer to home had to big a huge reason to transfer. Goaltending is especially tough on hips, I can name many current and former NCAA goalies who have underwent surgery to repair one or both hip labrums-it is not only painful before surgery, afterwards usually requires more warm up time and many visits to the trainer. As far as, a previous comment about not getting along with Nadine - I can see that also, Sauve pulled herself from multiple games. I witnessed one game where she skated to the bench and the coach asked her what she was doing and sent her back in. Overall, it is a great opportunity for her, and a chance for Clarkson to go for three in row.
 
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As far as, a previous comment about not getting along with Nadine - I can see that also, Sauve pulled herself from multiple games. I witnessed one game where she skated to the bench and the coach asked her what she was doing and sent her back in.

I do believe that happened @ UW last year also, UW crushed them 7-0, it was a curious deal.
 
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Just for some balance, I was talking to someone this summer from a different program. They had a very positive perception of Muzerall, particularly how hard she works to game plan for the various opponents. The perception was that not every coach goes that extra mile; OSU’s coach does.
 
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They had a very positive perception of Muzerall, particularly how hard she works to game plan for the various opponents.
I wonder how much of that might have been Elander, though. When Peter was at UND, Minnesota's coach said that UND would throw the kitchen sink at you, in that you might face different systems in every period. My only slightly-educated guess is that he had more tricks up his sleeve in terms of Xs and Os, just from relative experience with all else being equal, than Muzerall. I can see Muzzy working hard, but I don't know that scheming is her strength relative to other coaches.
 
I wonder how much of that might have been Elander, though. When Peter was at UND, Minnesota's coach said that UND would throw the kitchen sink at you, in that you might face different systems in every period. My only slightly-educated guess is that he had more tricks up his sleeve in terms of Xs and Os, just from relative experience with all else being equal, than Muzerall. I can see Muzzy working hard, but I don't know that scheming is her strength relative to other coaches.

I don’t agree with this take, although it’s possible. Elander came from a UND program that was .500 the year before. UND has losses to Syracuse, I think Lindenwood, and tied Mercyhurst that last season. None of those were top ten teams that year. But Elander is the reason for OSU’s success last year, even though he came from a .500 team?

There was a lot happening at OSU last year - great freshman class, UND gone, Olympic year, addition of Elander, first time the women had a 2nd year coach in 3 years. It’s difficult to say exactly why they finally had a winning record, but I don’t see any reason to be so doubtful of Muzerall.

Muzerall mentored under Frost and Johnson right? That’s another reason to believe she should have every ability to be a capable coach.
 
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But Elander is the reason for OSU’s success last year, even though he came from a .500 team?
I didn't say that; I was speaking specifically about Xs and Os and gameplanning. IMO, that was a key element that he brought to the staff last season. I'm not arguing with you about Nadine's contributions. The turnaround at OSU started in her first year, when Elander wasn't even there. My previous comments were only about systems.
 
I don’t agree with this take, although it’s possible. Elander came from a UND program that was .500 the year before. UND has losses to Syracuse, I think Lindenwood, and tied Mercyhurst that last season. None of those were top ten teams that year. But Elander is the reason for OSU’s success last year, even though he came from a .500 team?

There was a lot happening at OSU last year - great freshman class, UND gone, Olympic year, addition of Elander, first time the women had a 2nd year coach in 3 years. It’s difficult to say exactly why they finally had a winning record, but I don’t see any reason to be so doubtful of Muzerall.

Muzerall mentored under Frost and Johnson right? That’s another reason to believe she should have every ability to be a capable coach.

You can’t look at any coach’s contribution to a program during a one-two year window. This year is a big year for the Buckeyes as the WCHA is back to reality. They will do well but may not approach last season’s results for many reasons. How well the Buckeyes recruit and retain their players going forward will tell the story on Muzerall.
 
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How do you know how this "went down". And as for the Clarkson coaches or any coaching staff for that matter, when you get a kid with the hockey skills of Sauve or Cianfarano that would like to come to your school to complete a post grad degree while continuing to play hockey what are you going to say? Nah we don't want you, you should stay at Ohio State (or Quinnipiac). Give me a break.
We have ears in OSU's locker room and Clarkson's coach's knew she wasn't telling anyone of her plans until she had the deal done. In most people's book that's rather underhanded. I'm not going to spill all the secrets but what Sauve said publicly and what is known here by her former teammates is quite different. Now if what she did creates even more bad blood than by OSU having the win they earned stolen by a bad call then so be it. I relish the next time these programs would meet and then we'll see who's more motivated!
 
We have ears in OSU's locker room and Clarkson's coach's knew she wasn't telling anyone of her plans until she had the deal done. In most people's book that's rather underhanded. I'm not going to spill all the secrets but what Sauve said publicly and what is known here by her former teammates is quite different. Now if what she did creates even more bad blood than by OSU having the win they earned stolen by a bad call then so be it. I relish the next time these programs would meet and then we'll see who's more motivated!

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Honestly why would she discuss her transfer with anyone until it is complete. It is a private decision isn’t it and really none of anyone’s business but her own and the teams involved. Anyhow, shouldn’t you be getting ready for practice?
 
You can’t look at any coach’s contribution to a program during a one-two year window. This year is a big year for the Buckeyes as the WCHA is back to reality. They will do well but may not approach last season’s results for many reasons. How well the Buckeyes recruit and retain their players going forward will tell the story on Muzerall.

I agree with this. I was not making an all encompassing declaration about her coaching career, which is hopefully just getting started. I was sharing a positive anecdote I heard this summer, to balance out the numerous negative views shared here. No one said it’s too early for the detractors, I think it should go both ways.
 
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We have ears in OSU's locker room and Clarkson's coach's knew she wasn't telling anyone of her plans until she had the deal done. In most people's book that's rather underhanded. I'm not going to spill all the secrets but what Sauve said publicly and what is known here by her former teammates is quite different. Now if what she did creates even more bad blood than by OSU being beat by the 2 time defending national champs in OT. I relish the next time these programs would meet and then we'll see who's more motivated!

Fixed your post. I guess some people are just sore losers.
 
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I agree with this. I was not making an all encompassing declaration about her coaching career, which is hopefully just getting started. I was sharing a positive anecdote I heard this summer, to balance out the numerous negative views shared here. No one said it’s too early for the detractors, I think it should go both ways.

I agree, it goes both ways.

Sauve leaving, and how she left, is a non issue for me. If a coach can tell a teenage girl in an April exit interview that she is not welcome back on the team the next year, why cant a player do the same? How about a coach telling a player that in July?

How about a coach telling a player they cannot get surgery on a wrist mid-season and they need to live with the pain because its all about winning? Or a coach playing a player until their hips fall out?

Players get 4 years to play. I have no issues if they find a better situation for themselves or how they go about it.

Elander will be a huge loss for this team. Players genuinely liked him wherever he coached. I have yet to hear one person say one bad thing about him.
 
I agree, it goes both ways.

I wasn’t talking about Elander or Sauve, but yea best wishes to both of them. Particularly Sauvé, she knew her rights and she exercised them. That’s great.

Anyway, excited to see what the Buckeyes achieve this year.
 
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Nice sweep this weekend! Can't say I'm a fan of these Team Canada knock-off jerseys they're wearing though...
 
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