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Ohio State Buckeyes 2017-2018 ... Home Playoffs This Season?

Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2017-2018 ... Home Playoffs This Season?

I think they're going to have a hard time replicating the success they had this past season no matter how ****ed off they are.
True enough, but not all that useful as an insight. We're talking about a team that was one bounce (or call) from the National Title Game. Of course that's hard to replicate -- for literally every team in D-1.

I'll say this much. First, the Buckeyes won't be sneaking up on anyone next year. That raises the level of difficulty a bit. Second, as everyone on this forum knows, the returning Olympians do change the mix. Casual fans might not be aware of that.

But the team's exact level of talent, and what kind of year each player will have, are always open questions.
 
Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2017-2018 ... Home Playoffs This Season?

True enough, but not all that useful as an insight. We're talking about a team that was one bounce (or call) from the National Title Game. Of course that's hard to replicate -- for literally every team in D-1.

I'll say this much. First, the Buckeyes won't be sneaking up on anyone next year. That raises the level of difficulty a bit. Second, as everyone on this forum knows, the returning Olympians do change the mix. Casual fans might not be aware of that.

But the team's exact level of talent, and what kind of year each player will have, are always open questions.

It was definitely one call! The only fans who actually think that was a good call are the Clarkson fans and OSU haters. Coach Nadine thought it was a crap call and I'll side with her over the haters every time. The Clarkson girl flopped and the ref bought it. I'll be bitter about that for a long time. I completely agree with your response regarding those who don't think Ohio State will replicate what they did last season. Lots of teams aren't going to replicate what they did last season. The other side of that would be not too many thought Ohio State would do what they did this past season, so there's that.

As for sneaking up on teams, if we snuck up on anyone last season, that's their fault. With the roster we had last season, everyone knew we were going to be good. I am aware that some teams are getting Olympians back and that will make them better. Plus, we will be without our All-American goalie, Kassidy Sauve, who was obviously a huge part of our success last season. However, I think some are going to be pleasantly (or unpleasantly if they are on the other side) surprised at how good Amanda Zeglen will be in net, provided she earns the starting job next season. With all the scoring we have coming back, whoever is in net will not have to shut everyone out. As far as the whole Olympic year thing goes, which some like to use to minimize accomplishments, come October, we're going to hang a Frozen Four Banner in the OSU Ice Rink and begin our quest to try to return and finish the job in the 2018-19 season. I don't think there will be an asterisk on the banner that reads, "*This doesn't really count the same as the Frozen Fours from other years because it was an Olympic year."

Your points are well taken and my responses are not necessarily directed at you, just comments in general. I try to take a break and stay away in the offseason, but with a couple of defections, there have been things to talk about.

For those going to the games this fall, there will be three weekends where there are home football games (10/6, 10/13, and 11/3). Ugh, three games where we'll all have to pay $20 to park and that parking will be a half-mile away from the ice rink. The girls are worth it, though! :)
 
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It was definitely one call! The only fans who actually think that was a good call are the Clarkson fans and OSU haters.

This simply isn't true. I didn't have a good look at it, but almost all of the neutral observers I talked to who were sitting at that end of the rink thought it was a good call.
 
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This simply isn't true. I didn't have a good look at it, but almost all of the neutral observers I talked to who were sitting at that end of the rink thought it was a good call.

I'm neutral... I remember watching that play (and subsequent replays) and thinking it was a bad call. Those types of "interference" plays happen all of the time without getting called. Field was just the bigger, stronger player and the Clarkson girl went down awkward to where the referees "noticed it". Unfortunate call, but kudos to both teams. Hopefully someone other than Minnesota, Duluth, Wisconsin, or Clarkson can get the championship next year.
 
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Buckeyes will fight for the 4-5 spot next year. Wisconsin and Minnesota will fight for the top spot. UMD have Rooney coming back and are a year older. Bemidji and St-Cloud will be tough. As for the Buckeyes, the losses of Sauve, Sadek and Iafollo are not insignificant. There is also a lot of noise around this team that makes you wonder what is happening behind closed doors. Don’t know about incoming players however it will be near impossible to replicate what last year’s freshmen class delivered.
 
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the losses of Sauve, Sadek and Iafollo are not insignificant. There is also a lot of noise around this team that makes you wonder what is happening behind closed doors.

Very nice of you to not point out individual players. I'm sure they really appreciate that!

Is it good noise or bad noise?
 
I'm neutral... I remember watching that play (and subsequent replays) and thinking it was a bad call. Those types of "interference" plays happen all of the time without getting called. Field was just the bigger, stronger player and the Clarkson girl went down awkward to where the referees "noticed it". Unfortunate call, but kudos to both teams. Hopefully someone other than Minnesota, Duluth, Wisconsin, or Clarkson can get the championship next year.

The thing about that call is that it came shortly after an OSU power play that was also questionable. A Clarkson player in the neutral zone tripped up their feet with an OSU player’s feet. After the first penalty, I don’t know if the second call is a make up call, or just in keeping with the kind of calls being made that game. It’s hard to make one call but not the other.

The real kicker for OSU has to be the goal post in OT.

Anyway, great season for their team.
 
Very nice of you to not point out individual players. I'm sure they really appreciate that!

Is it good noise or bad noise?

Simply stating that these three players logged many minutes when we played them. They are not there next year and will not be easily replaced. As for the noise, I would say there is a mix of good and bad. Last year’s performance was exceptional and was a feel good story but when players leave after achieving what they did, it does lead to a lot of chatter.
 
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The only fans who actually think that was a good call are the Clarkson fans and OSU haters.
For a team to win a title, there usually are some key things that go their way. For example in 2004, Darwitz came back from a supposed season-ending injury and scored a HT in the final, including the winner seconds into the third period with a long video review. Had that been waved off, who knows who wins?

Clarkson had several close plays that went in their favor at the FF. Was the play just before the non-goal a penalty? Sure, but there are about a dozen penalties on each team that go uncalled in those games. Was Gabel offside on her winning goal? Don't know, but I'm used to watching linesmen call everything close offside during the season, just because they don't want a goal on a play that wasn't good at the line. In the final, the Colgate puck carrier was tripped at center ice to create the turnover that led to the game's first goal. Even the winning goal -- if a defending player takes her hand off her stick and shoves an opponent, that is typically a call, but Giguere did essentially the same thing to the Colgate defenseman. I'm not saying any of these are bad calls, but they all went the Golden Knights' way. A team has to have breaks to be successful.
 
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Simply stating that these three players logged many minutes when we played them. They are not there next year and will not be easily replaced. As for the noise, I would say there is a mix of good and bad. Last year’s performance was exceptional and was a feel good story but when players leave after achieving what they did, it does lead to a lot of chatter.

I agree that we lost some great seniors after this past season. As for the noise, the funny thing about the "noise" is it is not coming from Columbus, just rival fans. It's like people are trying to stir the pot in hopes of getting some top recruit to flip from OSU to their school. Everyone is aware we are losing our All-American goaltender. Another player has transferred to St. Cloud, and a third player may not be able to play again. Other than the two transfers, I have not heard anything about anyone else leaving. As for last year's freshman class, that's probably the best freshman class I have ever seen at tOSU. I agree with you that I don't think we are going to see the next freshman class replicate that. A lot of teams are not going to have a freshman class duplicate what Ohio State's freshman class did last season. Talking about this year's incoming players, in addition to the already-signed recruits, I am hearing we are getting some talented European players (hopefully a center or two). Guess that pretty much blows up the unfounded rumors some started that Peter Elander was leaving. Again, yeah, lots of noise, just not coming from Columbus.
 
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This simply isn't true. I didn't have a good look at it, but almost all of the neutral observers I talked to who were sitting at that end of the rink thought it was a good call.

It happened right in front of me so not too many had a better look at it than I did. Like I said earlier, Coach Muzz thought it was a bull**** call, and I totally agree with her.
 
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It happened right in front of me so not too many had a better look at it than I did. Like I said earlier, Coach Muzz thought it was a bull**** call, and I totally agree with her.

I didn't say that you don't think it was a bad call. I didn't even say that it wasn't a bad call. I said that your claim that it was such a bad call that only a Clarkson fan or someone who hates OSU could think otherwise is false. And that claim manifestly is false, as I have talked with a number of people who were rooting for the Buckeyes that thought it was a good call. You are very quick to blame biased officiating when a team you root for loses. Some awareness of how your own biases shape your own perceptions is a good idea.
 
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I didn't say that you don't think it was a bad call. I didn't even say that it wasn't a bad call. I said that your claim that it was such a bad call that only a Clarkson fan or someone who hates OSU could think otherwise is false. And that claim manifestly is false, as I have talked with a number of people who were rooting for the Buckeyes that thought it was a good call. You are very quick to blame biased officiating when a team you root for loses. Some awareness of how your own biases shape your own perceptions is a good idea.

The call was legit. Maybe there should have been a second penalty on the play, a call for embellishment on the Clarkson player which would have also resulted in a whistle and no goal. It was a great game to watch and could have gone either way. At least it didn’t end in a shootout!
 
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The call was legit.

I was sitting just outside the blue line opposite the benches on that end of the rink. I happened to be looking there (and actually never saw the shot or the goal, other than in my periphery), saw the penalty and looked immediately to the ref to see if his arm was up (which helped my missing the shot, etc.). Totally legit call, and I don't agree regarding any 'embellishment'.

Clarkson played three NCAA tourney games, and won all three in OT. Good team, who were also very lucky.
 
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You are very quick to blame biased officiating when a team you root for loses.

I am fine with everything else you said, and I obviously bleed Scarlet & Gray so I will admit having some biases as you stated, but to say I am quick to blame biased officiating when one of my teams loses is not even close to being true. I've lost count of how many times I have been on here complimenting the other team and saying the other team was the better team. That is all I am going to say on this subject. Half the people think it was a good call, and the other half think it was a bad call.

It was a great Frozen Four with three great games, all three of which could have gone either way. Any of those four teams could have won the National Title. I am going to move past that and get ready for the upcoming season. Trying to decide which road trips Mrs 86 and I want to make.
 
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Two new additions for the coming season, one from the bronze medal winning Finnish Olympic team.

Sara Säkkinen. The Finnish Olympian forward made six appearances during the 2018 Winter Games, and 26 appearances for Finland during international play over the last year. Säkkinen also made 21 appearances with Team Kuortane in the Liiga league where she tallied eight goals and 11 assists.

Joining Säkkinen is defenseman Eve Savander. Playing alongside Säkkinen on Team Kuortane, Savander scored five goals and notched 19 assists in 28 appearances last year.
 
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More older players. One turns 21 April of her freshman year and the other 21 in September of soph year.
 
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