Blackbeard
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Re: Ohio State @ Bemidji State 2/1 - 2/2
What happened?!!!!!
What happened?!!!!!
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Ohio State @ Bemidji State 2/1 - 2/2
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Re: Ohio State @ Bemidji State 2/1 - 2/2
My sentiments exactly. I don't want to sound negative on here, but I am sure Coach Nate isn't happy about this so I will say it ... contenders just do not lose to inferior teams. We definitely left points on the table this weekend. I have said this before and I will say it again, it is up to this team to decide what kind of season they want to have. They can accomplish whatever they want to accomplish. I believe that. I completely understood last night's game as it's a long bus ride to Bemidji, but today, after having a night to rest up, I am left with the same "What happened" question that you are. It's unfortunate. It's going to be an uphill battle trying to get that 4th spot now with two games vs Minnesota, then two games at UND. We end with a home series vs Minnesota State, but we may not be close enough at that point to move into the 4th spot, even if we do sweep and get the six points vs Minnesota State. To end this post on a positive note, I really like the direction the program is going in with Coach Nate, we have great kids (love 'em), and who knows, maybe after another recruiting class or two, we will be a fixture in the top four of the league. It's been a great ride this season and I am looking forward to the series vs Minnesota this weekend!
My sentiments exactly. I don't want to sound negative on here, but I am sure Coach Nate isn't happy about this so I will say it ... contenders just do not lose to inferior teams. We definitely left points on the table this weekend. I have said this before and I will say it again, it is up to this team to decide what kind of season they want to have. They can accomplish whatever they want to accomplish. I believe that. I completely understood last night's game as it's a long bus ride to Bemidji, but today, after having a night to rest up, I am left with the same "What happened" question that you are. It's unfortunate. It's going to be an uphill battle trying to get that 4th spot now with two games vs Minnesota, then two games at UND. We end with a home series vs Minnesota State, but we may not be close enough at that point to move into the 4th spot, even if we do sweep and get the six points vs Minnesota State. To end this post on a positive note, I really like the direction the program is going in with Coach Nate, we have great kids (love 'em), and who knows, maybe after another recruiting class or two, we will be a fixture in the top four of the league. It's been a great ride this season and I am looking forward to the series vs Minnesota this weekend!
Blackbeard
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Re: Ohio State @ Bemidji State 2/1 - 2/2
Surprised to hear this. Does OSU fly to UND, the farthest one out, or bus to all conference games?
UMD flies to OSU because the drive is too long (and Bemidji is 2 1/2 hours drive west of Duluth) but then again the rest of the conference games are easily doable by bus. Your location makes it difficult to find a balance without breaking the bank on airfare.
For what it's worth, I didn't think you were being negative...you were just being objective which is always a refreshingly good thing. Political correctness only serves to stifle the imagination and productivity.
Surprised to hear this. Does OSU fly to UND, the farthest one out, or bus to all conference games?
UMD flies to OSU because the drive is too long (and Bemidji is 2 1/2 hours drive west of Duluth) but then again the rest of the conference games are easily doable by bus. Your location makes it difficult to find a balance without breaking the bank on airfare.
For what it's worth, I didn't think you were being negative...you were just being objective which is always a refreshingly good thing. Political correctness only serves to stifle the imagination and productivity.
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To be honest with you, I thought bus on this trip because I thought I saw some stuff on twitter about taking a sleeper bus, but I could be completely wrong on that. A bus trip from Cbus to Bemidji would be brutal, but I am not sure airfare would be more economical. I haven't checked on airfare from Cbus to Bemidji. I suppose they could have flown to Minneapolis, then chartered a bus up to Bemidji. As for my response and whether it was negative or not, one thing about me is I am incapable of sugarcoating (LOL)! Today's loss was disheartening as the key to us staying in this race for one of those top four spots was beating the teams we are supposed to beat, and trying to knock off or split with the others. Losing to Bemidji is not exactly part of that formula! I feel like we needed to hit the 50-point mark to be in contention for one of those top four spots. That is a big mountain to climb at this point. The bottom line, and the thing I have to remind myself, is as frustrated as I am, I am sure the kids and the coaching staff are that much more frustrated. Probably wasn't a pleasant trip back to Columbus from this one. We'll see what happens next weekend when Minnesota comes to Columbus. We'll have to bring our best if we want to be competitive, no question about that! Against that team, we may bring our best and still get swept. Minnesota is that good. They look about as close to invincible as you can get. They may not taste defeat this season. "Great moments are born from great opportunity."
To be honest with you, I thought bus on this trip because I thought I saw some stuff on twitter about taking a sleeper bus, but I could be completely wrong on that. A bus trip from Cbus to Bemidji would be brutal, but I am not sure airfare would be more economical. I haven't checked on airfare from Cbus to Bemidji. I suppose they could have flown to Minneapolis, then chartered a bus up to Bemidji. As for my response and whether it was negative or not, one thing about me is I am incapable of sugarcoating (LOL)! Today's loss was disheartening as the key to us staying in this race for one of those top four spots was beating the teams we are supposed to beat, and trying to knock off or split with the others. Losing to Bemidji is not exactly part of that formula! I feel like we needed to hit the 50-point mark to be in contention for one of those top four spots. That is a big mountain to climb at this point. The bottom line, and the thing I have to remind myself, is as frustrated as I am, I am sure the kids and the coaching staff are that much more frustrated. Probably wasn't a pleasant trip back to Columbus from this one. We'll see what happens next weekend when Minnesota comes to Columbus. We'll have to bring our best if we want to be competitive, no question about that! Against that team, we may bring our best and still get swept. Minnesota is that good. They look about as close to invincible as you can get. They may not taste defeat this season. "Great moments are born from great opportunity."
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Re: Ohio State @ Bemidji State 2/1 - 2/2
I saw both games. I really didn't feel they played bad especially that second game. In both games they had alot of really nice chances. The D played alot better the second game. And Bemidji won it with a flutter floater shot from the blue line. Most of the third we controlled zone play. The power play created some really nice chances. I think they scored after a PP in the third where we really had some nice pressure and were moving the puck pretty well..after that the beavers seems to gain confidence from the kill and fought till they got one. Sertich really has a way of rallying the girls... they work hard as always.
I saw both games. I really didn't feel they played bad especially that second game. In both games they had alot of really nice chances. The D played alot better the second game. And Bemidji won it with a flutter floater shot from the blue line. Most of the third we controlled zone play. The power play created some really nice chances. I think they scored after a PP in the third where we really had some nice pressure and were moving the puck pretty well..after that the beavers seems to gain confidence from the kill and fought till they got one. Sertich really has a way of rallying the girls... they work hard as always.
Re: Ohio State @ Bemidji State 2/1 - 2/2
Before the start of the season, winning 3 of 4 from Bemidji would have sounded solid enough. But as things have played out, losing Saturday is clearly a disappointment. I guess it won't really be possible to evaluate all this until the full season is in the books. There's still much hockey to be played, fortunately enough.
No inside info, but this is the most likely. The extra leg to Bemidji would be pretty expensive in the usual case. And that route is likely served by smaller commuter plans. There might not be enough seats for sale even if money was no object. Also, on most road trips you're going to need a bus anyhow -- to get from the airport to the hotel, on to the rink, and so on. Better to purchase the more affordable flight and pick up the bus at MSP.
No kidding. And I think your 50 point threshhold is pretty much on the money. I was playing with the numbers a while back and came up with 49 points, and was assuming that we'd hold 1 or 2 of the tiebreakers. So basically we came up with the same thing. Home ice is still mathematically possible; and I know the team will give it their all. But you're correct not to sugarcoat. We previously had an inside track; that's no longer true.osualum86 said:
I'm not really surprised by any of that, but it's good to hear. Appreciate the eyewitness account.
Before the start of the season, winning 3 of 4 from Bemidji would have sounded solid enough. But as things have played out, losing Saturday is clearly a disappointment. I guess it won't really be possible to evaluate all this until the full season is in the books. There's still much hockey to be played, fortunately enough.
Re: Ohio State @ Bemidji State 2/1 - 2/2
In order to hit 49, we will need to somehow pick up six points vs Minnesota and North Dakota, then sweep Minnesota State. Obviously, 49 points would have been more feasible had we taken care of business yesterday. Home ice is still mathematically possible, but we have made it that much harder on ourselves with the loss at Bemidji. I agree with you 100% that the team will give it their all. Can't wait to get to the OSU Ice Rink for this weekend's games!
In order to hit 49, we will need to somehow pick up six points vs Minnesota and North Dakota, then sweep Minnesota State. Obviously, 49 points would have been more feasible had we taken care of business yesterday. Home ice is still mathematically possible, but we have made it that much harder on ourselves with the loss at Bemidji. I agree with you 100% that the team will give it their all. Can't wait to get to the OSU Ice Rink for this weekend's games!
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Correct. And the further problem is that winning points from the Gophers, as glorious as that would be, might not be enough. Part of the equation is denying UND points.
Yup. And at least for next weekend, point projections and scoreboard watching are pretty much irrelevant. Playing the undefeated, top ranked team is an end onto itself and should be the sole focus.
Inferior? Ha, you OSU lovers have gotten a little too big for your britches, your heads have gotten far too big for your hats. I can tell what happened vs BSU in game 2, the players have started to think the way you all do on this post... underestimating the opponent.
I agree BSU is inferior in placement in the standings due to lack of goal production, but they are not inferior when it comes to skill, character, and quality of effort.
Aside from MN, any of the bottom 7 (haha) can win on any given day regardless of their opponent. Therefore I suggest you folks relax and give the opposing teams the credit and respect that they deserve.
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No disrespect was intended whatsoever, it was strictly based on standings. Probably should have just said that instead of using the word 'inferior.' We certainly know what it's like to not get credit or the respect that we've earned. We're in a battle for home ice in the best league in the country and still don't get the respect that we have clearly earned. No one here has a big head.
No disrespect was intended whatsoever, it was strictly based on standings. Probably should have just said that instead of using the word 'inferior.' We certainly know what it's like to not get credit or the respect that we've earned. We're in a battle for home ice in the best league in the country and still don't get the respect that we have clearly earned. No one here has a big head.
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Sigh. Did you even read the thread? From just four posts earlier:
Is this really any different from what you're demanding?
Sigh, again. Agreed, mostly. But if you'd been a little more up to speed on this season's threads, you'd have seen that other posters think we're too relaxed, don't know what it takes to get an NCAA bid, lack killer instinct, etc., etc. I dunno; if we're drawing fire from both sides, maybe we're striking the right balance...rugrats said:
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Let's be fair. BSU was in last place and OSU won 4-1 and 10-2 a few months back so it was ok to expect a sweep. Either OSU has gotten a ton worse or BSU has gotten a ton better. Or maybe OSU just was very fortunate early. Other than Minny a win can come against anyone on any given night this year. OSU has lost 5 of 8 and could possibly lose 9 of 12 with weekends against Minny and UND(at UND) coming up. Remember last year!
What was working early teams have figured out. OSU you needs to switch things up and become hungry again.
I do wish them luck against UND. Not so much against Minny. Sorry!
Let's be fair. BSU was in last place and OSU won 4-1 and 10-2 a few months back so it was ok to expect a sweep. Either OSU has gotten a ton worse or BSU has gotten a ton better. Or maybe OSU just was very fortunate early. Other than Minny a win can come against anyone on any given night this year. OSU has lost 5 of 8 and could possibly lose 9 of 12 with weekends against Minny and UND(at UND) coming up. Remember last year!
What was working early teams have figured out. OSU you needs to switch things up and become hungry again.
I do wish them luck against UND. Not so much against Minny. Sorry!
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ARM
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Somebody is always whining about being disrespected, so I wouldn't worry about that too much. Some people are happiest when they can be unhappy, so if you don't trash their team, they'll pretend that you did so they can play the disrespect card. It gets old. Note that no BSU or SCSU fans are complaining, so don't sweat it.
I suppose that means me? I'm not going to tell you how you should think ... well, except that I think it is always fine form to be anti-UMD. But in terms of NCAA bids, it seems every "oops!" winds up being costly. You can almost see them coming. At this point, it doesn't really matter, because the Buckeyes aren't in the PWR picture so it is just a case of getting every point possible for the WCHA.
Somebody is always whining about being disrespected, so I wouldn't worry about that too much. Some people are happiest when they can be unhappy, so if you don't trash their team, they'll pretend that you did so they can play the disrespect card. It gets old. Note that no BSU or SCSU fans are complaining, so don't sweat it.
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brookyone
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Thanks for understanding so... That said, OSU will go 2-3-1 in their last 6. BSU will go 0-5-1
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Just because something is critical doesn't mean there can't be some wisdom in it.
Yes, you -- along with a number of the other best informed posters on the board.
Just because something is critical doesn't mean there can't be some wisdom in it. You saw them coming much better than I did, and I certainly respect your insight. As usual.
True enough; although agreeing with that analysis clearly makes me too relaxed.
Been around these parts for a while; and I agree with this formulation. That's the main reason why chose to sigh few times, rather than get genuinely excited. If my previous post showed a little backbone, good. But I can't really say I broke a sweat.
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Actually, I'm all over the map, but I do like an underdog. However, I really do enjoy your weekly previews leading up to the weekend games, so keep up the good work. Good luck to OSU down the stretch.
So Rugrats isn't a Bemidji fan? So he just stopped by this thread to "poke the bear"?
Actually, I'm all over the map, but I do like an underdog. However, I really do enjoy your weekly previews leading up to the weekend games, so keep up the good work. Good luck to OSU down the stretch.