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Ohio State 2017-2018: pour another Schott
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klbaum1077
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Rooting for Bowling Green here.
I live 20 minutes from BG im rooting for them too
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It's really too early to tell. Although the fact that PSU is hosting and will automatically be placed in Allentown really shouldn't matter. However if you win out and get a #1 seed there is no way that Penn State will be a #1 too so you're fine there (providing you leap Notre Dame). But regardless of what you do, if Penn State wins out they'll be a #2 and so will you which means you'll be shipped elsewhere. Therefore you want to win Saturday because you hate us. Now I'm not sure how everything will line up so any switches the committee makes may impact things but for the most part they stay pretty much chalk.
And BTW, #4 & #5 would be put in the same region anyway assuming there aren't any switches.
It's really too early to tell. Although the fact that PSU is hosting and will automatically be placed in Allentown really shouldn't matter. However if you win out and get a #1 seed there is no way that Penn State will be a #1 too so you're fine there (providing you leap Notre Dame). But regardless of what you do, if Penn State wins out they'll be a #2 and so will you which means you'll be shipped elsewhere. Therefore you want to win Saturday because you hate us. Now I'm not sure how everything will line up so any switches the committee makes may impact things but for the most part they stay pretty much chalk.
And BTW, #4 & #5 would be put in the same region anyway assuming there aren't any switches.
Hockeybuckeye
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Re: Ohio State 2017-2018: pour another Schott
Go Bucks!
Go Bucks!
Eddie Schorr
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That's so completely effed. What is the difference in cost between that and a 5K arena for both programs? Ohio State's athletic debt is pretty reasonable right now relative to the AD's revenue and the overall university budget. I believe the Schott and the Ohio Stadium renovation bonds were paid off years ago. Despite what they say, money is not an issue.
That is basically what I heard ... guys staying in the Schott, and a 1,200-seat arena for the women being attached to the Schott.
That's so completely effed. What is the difference in cost between that and a 5K arena for both programs? Ohio State's athletic debt is pretty reasonable right now relative to the AD's revenue and the overall university budget. I believe the Schott and the Ohio Stadium renovation bonds were paid off years ago. Despite what they say, money is not an issue.
klbaum1077
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klbaum1077
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Re: Ohio State 2017-2018: pour another Schott
Wasnt the best game they played all year but the result is all that matters. Each team had stretches where they were dominate. Going to take a better all around game to win that trophy next Saturday. Anyone else going over to South Bend?
Wasnt the best game they played all year but the result is all that matters. Each team had stretches where they were dominate. Going to take a better all around game to win that trophy next Saturday. Anyone else going over to South Bend?
Hockeybuckeye
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Re: Ohio State 2017-2018: pour another Schott
It su*ked that the seats went on sale as soon as their game ended and we were still up in the air if we were going to win or not! Apparently outside of immediate family for the players no allotment of tickets for our fans.
Got online soon as I got home from the game and bought like the last two seats together in the arena. Not bad ones either, down in our attack twice end!
It su*ked that the seats went on sale as soon as their game ended and we were still up in the air if we were going to win or not! Apparently outside of immediate family for the players no allotment of tickets for our fans.
klbaum1077
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plenty of bleacher seats still left but i got a regular seat as well in the attack zone twice.
plenty of bleacher seats still left but i got a regular seat as well in the attack zone twice.
WeAreNDHockey
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Nice win for you guys Saturday night. On TV the place looked packed. Sure looked like more than 6500 to me. Both teams are likely to be #1 seeds (ND is assured and OSU will be if they win and likely will be win or lose). What remains to be seen for our two teams is where are we playing come March 23/24. My guess is one us is likely to go to Sioux Falls IF North Dakota makes the field. If the Sioux are out I would imagine St. Cloud goes there.
Nice win for you guys Saturday night. On TV the place looked packed. Sure looked like more than 6500 to me. Both teams are likely to be #1 seeds (ND is assured and OSU will be if they win and likely will be win or lose). What remains to be seen for our two teams is where are we playing come March 23/24. My guess is one us is likely to go to Sioux Falls IF North Dakota makes the field. If the Sioux are out I would imagine St. Cloud goes there.
Draighlicht
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Congratulations back at you. Recorded and watched your game after the OSU game, and what an exciting way to win over a team that was hot.
Congratulations back at you. Recorded and watched your game after the OSU game, and what an exciting way to win over a team that was hot.
klbaum1077
Registered User
Lets hope that nodak loses this weekend. I want to go and they bought up all the tickets.
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Wow - what a season and the fun part is just getting started! With the talk of new arena, I had my "ah-ha" moment on Saturday night looking around at the crowd at Nationwide Arena. When you start looking at things from an administration point of view, MIH will never get a new arena as the Schott serves the purpose just fine (as much as a cavern as it is). Similar to adding on a practice gym for BB to the Schott, in their eyes, add on an auxillary 1,500 seat ice rink for WIH and the problem is solved.
As they see it, MIH now has a practice rink they can walk into and not have to take a short bus to, WIH now has a new modern facility and solves the contract issue (if the rumor is true with the coach about having a new facility within 3 years). Once the Covelli is finished, bulldozing the field house and ice rink and returing it to green space solves that mission and the Schott now becomes the marquee facility for Ohio State MIH & WIH without spending a whole lot of money in the grand scheme of things.
If the B1G or NCAA isn't going to set standard size rink rules (big sheet of ice in MN and WI) for college hockey, they surely aren't going to stipulate where on campus playoff games are played. In fact, I'd bet that the B1G was happy to promote their hockey "rivalry" of Ohio State vs *ichigan was played in an NHL arena. From an administration and recruiting perspective, playing a playoff game in an NHL arena which is where the majority of recruits want to end up in a few years anyway, this is a golden opportunity, regardless of the attendance.
My "ah-ha" moment was looking at the $ on Saturday night. With Ohio State, everything comes down to $.
Say 6,000 tickets at $20 = $120k. It costs $5k/hour to rent NWA with a four hour minimum. OSU probably works a better deal but let's say the cost to rent the facility was $20k plus incidental fees and charges. That's $90k+ revenue for one of the biggest games of the year for OSU as well as the B1G. Again from an administration point of view, that is a cost savings and an investment.
Additionally, with both teams on the upswing and headed to a possible B1G championship and another NCAA appearance, I'm sure administration is looking at this and saying you've made it this far with the assets that we have, why fix it if it isn't broken?
Just my two cents. It is an incredibly exciting time to be an Ohio State Hockey fan....let's keep this thing rolling for the next few weeks!
Wow - what a season and the fun part is just getting started! With the talk of new arena, I had my "ah-ha" moment on Saturday night looking around at the crowd at Nationwide Arena. When you start looking at things from an administration point of view, MIH will never get a new arena as the Schott serves the purpose just fine (as much as a cavern as it is). Similar to adding on a practice gym for BB to the Schott, in their eyes, add on an auxillary 1,500 seat ice rink for WIH and the problem is solved.
As they see it, MIH now has a practice rink they can walk into and not have to take a short bus to, WIH now has a new modern facility and solves the contract issue (if the rumor is true with the coach about having a new facility within 3 years). Once the Covelli is finished, bulldozing the field house and ice rink and returing it to green space solves that mission and the Schott now becomes the marquee facility for Ohio State MIH & WIH without spending a whole lot of money in the grand scheme of things.
If the B1G or NCAA isn't going to set standard size rink rules (big sheet of ice in MN and WI) for college hockey, they surely aren't going to stipulate where on campus playoff games are played. In fact, I'd bet that the B1G was happy to promote their hockey "rivalry" of Ohio State vs *ichigan was played in an NHL arena. From an administration and recruiting perspective, playing a playoff game in an NHL arena which is where the majority of recruits want to end up in a few years anyway, this is a golden opportunity, regardless of the attendance.
My "ah-ha" moment was looking at the $ on Saturday night. With Ohio State, everything comes down to $.
Say 6,000 tickets at $20 = $120k. It costs $5k/hour to rent NWA with a four hour minimum. OSU probably works a better deal but let's say the cost to rent the facility was $20k plus incidental fees and charges. That's $90k+ revenue for one of the biggest games of the year for OSU as well as the B1G. Again from an administration point of view, that is a cost savings and an investment.
Additionally, with both teams on the upswing and headed to a possible B1G championship and another NCAA appearance, I'm sure administration is looking at this and saying you've made it this far with the assets that we have, why fix it if it isn't broken?
Just my two cents. It is an incredibly exciting time to be an Ohio State Hockey fan....let's keep this thing rolling for the next few weeks!
Eddie Schorr
Member
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The X factor is can we keep Rohlik without a proper hockey arena. If he leaves and the program sinks back into another extended period of mediocrity, all those calculations by the administration will have turned out to be, as the saying goes, "too clever by half." I know we'll always face the prospect of him going back to Madison if Bucky comes calling. What I don't want is the possibility of losing him to a school that can give him a great hockey only facility.
The X factor is can we keep Rohlik without a proper hockey arena. If he leaves and the program sinks back into another extended period of mediocrity, all those calculations by the administration will have turned out to be, as the saying goes, "too clever by half." I know we'll always face the prospect of him going back to Madison if Bucky comes calling. What I don't want is the possibility of losing him to a school that can give him a great hockey only facility.
Hockeybuckeye
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Success breeds success as they saying goes. We've had a VERY successful season thus far and would it not stand to reason that we will be able to recruit well because of it? Has the arena hampered our ability to play well in it? Wisconsin's Kohl Center is only slightly smaller and has it's size hurt them?
I'm sure there are financial incentives in Rohliks contract that will reward him for his achievements and if he can sustain a strong competitive program here why go somewhere else and start over because of a NHL size arena?
Why would the arena be a factor on Rohlik staying?
Success breeds success as they saying goes. We've had a VERY successful season thus far and would it not stand to reason that we will be able to recruit well because of it? Has the arena hampered our ability to play well in it? Wisconsin's Kohl Center is only slightly smaller and has it's size hurt them?
I'm sure there are financial incentives in Rohliks contract that will reward him for his achievements and if he can sustain a strong competitive program here why go somewhere else and start over because of a NHL size arena?
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Yeah, they're not fooling anyone with the "We don't have the money" rhetoric when it comes to building a legitimate hockey facility for our hockey programs. Someone commented on social media (I forget if it was facebook or twitter) about our hockey programs having to win a natty to get the athletic department to take notice and build them their own facility. I replied and basically said if the athletic department has not taken notice now with both programs in the NCAA Tournament (the men are obviously going to make it as a #1 or #2 seed and the women beat Boston College on the road Saturday to advance to the Women's Frozen Four), they never will.
Yeah, they're not fooling anyone with the "We don't have the money" rhetoric when it comes to building a legitimate hockey facility for our hockey programs. Someone commented on social media (I forget if it was facebook or twitter) about our hockey programs having to win a natty to get the athletic department to take notice and build them their own facility. I replied and basically said if the athletic department has not taken notice now with both programs in the NCAA Tournament (the men are obviously going to make it as a #1 or #2 seed and the women beat Boston College on the road Saturday to advance to the Women's Frozen Four), they never will.
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My Observation on the Michigan game. As a Buckeye Hockey Season ticket holder for 20 Years, if they were playing anyone else besides Michigan last week, they would be doing good to draw 3000 at Nationwide. The atmosphere was the best it has been for College Hockey in Columbus, ( excluding the Frozen Four that was here) mainly because Michigan travelled so well. The Schott takes away the college atmosphere for both Hockey and Basketball. St John Arena is College Basketball.. Yost arena is college hockey. Ohio State will never be a Hockey school.. This is the best it will get for us local College Hockey fans. It will always be tough to compete on the ice and recruiting with Michigan( US Developmental team in their backyard), Minnesota and Wisconsin.
My Observation on the Michigan game. As a Buckeye Hockey Season ticket holder for 20 Years, if they were playing anyone else besides Michigan last week, they would be doing good to draw 3000 at Nationwide. The atmosphere was the best it has been for College Hockey in Columbus, ( excluding the Frozen Four that was here) mainly because Michigan travelled so well. The Schott takes away the college atmosphere for both Hockey and Basketball. St John Arena is College Basketball.. Yost arena is college hockey. Ohio State will never be a Hockey school.. This is the best it will get for us local College Hockey fans. It will always be tough to compete on the ice and recruiting with Michigan( US Developmental team in their backyard), Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Draighlicht
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Re: Ohio State 2017-2018: pour another Schott
I don't think there's much chance of Rohlik leaving, even for Wisconsin at this point. This program has been very good to and for him, and barring OSU flat out doing nothing (including building a better practice facility) I don't see him leaving There is a good chance of the women's coach leaving if progress isn't made on a new facility soon.
I have always felt that men's hockey was not going to leave the Schott and that was not the direction this thing would end up going. The practice rink and 1200 seats attached to the Schott is the best we are going to get barring one of us here winning a few hundred million in the lottery (I should probably start playing). The players seem to like the Schott as I've not even heard of a recent alumni complaining about it.
I don't think there's much chance of Rohlik leaving, even for Wisconsin at this point. This program has been very good to and for him, and barring OSU flat out doing nothing (including building a better practice facility) I don't see him leaving There is a good chance of the women's coach leaving if progress isn't made on a new facility soon.
I have always felt that men's hockey was not going to leave the Schott and that was not the direction this thing would end up going. The practice rink and 1200 seats attached to the Schott is the best we are going to get barring one of us here winning a few hundred million in the lottery (I should probably start playing). The players seem to like the Schott as I've not even heard of a recent alumni complaining about it.
Hockeybuckeye
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I've said this before but I think the only benefit a hockey only arena would give us in terms of attendance would be we'd have much more flexibility in scheduling home games to not conflict with Blue Jacket home games as much as possible.
Season ticket holders for the Jackets are not going to pass on their high priced seats to come to our games when both play at the same time.
I've said this before but I think the only benefit a hockey only arena would give us in terms of attendance would be we'd have much more flexibility in scheduling home games to not conflict with Blue Jacket home games as much as possible.
Season ticket holders for the Jackets are not going to pass on their high priced seats to come to our games when both play at the same time.