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Ohio State 2013/2014 - Third year in Oz

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Well it's real now season tix came in the mail. With the NHL lockout I think it's unfortunate to start off with so many road games. If it lasts maybe some CBJ only fans in town will check out the boys playing in the Schott.

What Freshman ON PAPER are expected to make the most impact? We have alot of returning players so let's do something with it!!
 
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OK, Missing from this years roster from last years freshmen are Brendan Arniel, Ben Gallacher and Paul Kirtland. Anyone know if they left of their own accord?
 
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Gallacher did for sure, went to play major junior IIRC. I wondered when his Dad got let go by the Jackets if Arniel would be gone since it seemed like much playing time was never going to be in his future. No clue about Kirtland.
 
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Blackhawk56 said:
Gallacher did for sure, went to play major junior IIRC. I wondered when his Dad got let go by the Jackets if Arniel would be gone since it seemed like much playing time was never going to be in his future. No clue about Kirtland.
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Gallacher is playing for Green Bay in the USHL - not major juniors for his dad's team. Playing on a team with two future buckeyes.

Have a feeling that Kirtland's departure was less than happy. Just a feeling.
 
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Kirtland and Arniel both released from the team by the coach. We all know that they weren't the first players to be released since Osiecki took over, and they likely won't be the last.
 
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Sportsfan1 said:
Kirtland and Arniel both released from the team by the coach. We all know that they weren't the first players to be released since Osiecki took over, and they likely won't be the last.
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Well if he lets anymore go then they will likely have been recurited by Oz so he would be admitting he was wrong to bring that player to ohio state in the first place.
 
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Since this season is about to start last year is no longer on my mind. They were picked right around what i thought they would be by the coaches. I dont think they will be as low as the Media said but we will see. The 3rd year in this system should give us better results as a whole and improvement is a must in my mind. Playing a home playoff series is also a must this year. Getting to Detroit and also the Ncaa tournament would be great for the program going into the Start of the Big Ten next year. Making the last name on that cup match the first name would be icing on the cake for me this year.
 
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klbaum1077 said:
Well if he lets anymore go then they will likely have been recurited by Oz so he would be admitting he was wrong to bring that player to ohio state in the first place.
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Having had kids who played in collegiate sports I'd have to disagree with that assessment. All coaches in sports recruit more than they can play. Some don't live up to their potential or have other issues that don't have them return. Others who don't get the playing time they want often look for greener pastures. Markel always would bring in a goalie or two who if he was luckey got in the game for a few on his senior night as those guys were here just to give him netminders for the practice teams.
 
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klbaum1077 said:
The 3rd year in this system should give us better results as a whole and improvement is a must in my mind.
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I said from day one with Oz, it will take a minimum of 3 years for the new coach to get his recruits in here and have the time they need to understand him and his system before we see strong consistent improvement.
I hope I'm not mistaken but gentlemen I see this season as one we'll remember for a long time but in a positive way.
This season the team as a whole in case you haven't heard have a mission with one goal in particular in mind, and that goal is as we were the first team whose name appeared on the Mason Cup we will do everything we can to make certain we're the last team to win it. A worthy endeavor to say the least.
Can I get a GO BUCKS for that goal?
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
Having had kids who played in collegiate sports I'd have to disagree with that assessment. All coaches in sports recruit more than they can play. Some don't live up to their potential or have other issues that don't have them return. Others who don't get the playing time they want often look for greener pastures. Markel always would bring in a goalie or two who if he was luckey got in the game for a few on his senior night as those guys were here just to give him netminders for the practice teams.
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The ones who leave on their own i wouldnt call it a mistake on the coaches part but if he has to ask a player to leave because he hasnt like his play then i would have to say the coach messed up somewhere along the way. He either screwed up bringing him in or he messed up coaching him along the way. Now saying all of that i dont believe many players will be leaving this program unless they do it on there own.
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
I said from day one with Oz, it will take a minimum of 3 years for the new coach to get his recruits in here and have the time they need to understand him and his system before we see strong consistent improvement.
I hope I'm not mistaken but gentlemen I see this season as one we'll remember for a long time but in a positive way.
This season the team as a whole in case you haven't heard have a mission with one goal in particular in mind, and that goal is as we were the first team whose name appeared on the Mason Cup we will do everything we can to make certain we're the last team to win it. A worthy endeavor to say the least.
Can I get a GO BUCKS for that goal?
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I have the same slogan for this season match the last name with the first name on that cup. Here is to having a great season and a fun ride for us fans.
 
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klbaum1077 said:
I have the same slogan for this season match the last name with the first name on that cup. Here is to having a great season and a fun ride for us fans.
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OSU ticket & marketing told me today that they've been working hard to get more people to the games. The first regular home games against Alaska they have sold over 1000 seats to a group attending that weekends games. We nearly hit the 10,000 attendance mark last year for some of our games. With a strong team we could go beyond that.
 
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Well if he lets anymore go then they will likely have been recurited by Oz so he would be admitting he was wrong to bring that player to ohio state in the first place.
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Osiecki recruited Arniel his first year as coach. The same year he released three players on the 2010/2011 roster. Most coaches who take over a team work with what they have and don't make wholesale changes in an effort to get their own guys in. Especially in collegiate hockey. It's all about making the program viable and attracting talented players. Player development is also key. Gallacher, a 4th round NHL draft pick only saw action in about half the games. Maybe that's why he left OSU to go to the USHL. An NHL team needs their players to play and develop in a college program, not sit in the stands. Just my opinion.
 
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Sportsfan1 said:
Player development is also key. Gallacher, a 4th round NHL draft pick only saw action in about half the games. Maybe that's why he left OSU to go to the USHL. An NHL team needs their players to play and develop in a college program, not sit in the stands. Just my opinion.
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It's not Oz's job to develop players for the NHL. I believe his job is to coach Ohio State and to put the players on the ice that give them the best chance of winning. If Gallacher didn't increase, or even worse lessened, the team's chances of winning he should not have been on the ice even if he was the first overall selection.

Arneil's leaving probably had a lot to do with the fact that he was paying his own way and since his father wasn't coaching the Blue Jackets any more and had moved out of state he had to pay out of state tuition.
 
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Sportsfan1 said:
It's all about making the program viable and attracting talented players. Player development is also key. An NHL team needs their players to play and develop in a college program, not sit in the stands. Just my opinion.
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I stand by what I said earlier. If OSU wants to recruit top end players, the coach has to coach them and play them and work with them to get them to the next level.
 
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Draighlicht said:
It's not Oz's job to develop players for the NHL. I believe his job is to coach Ohio State and to put the players on the ice that give them the best chance of winning. If Gallacher didn't increase, or even worse lessened, the team's chances of winning he should not have been on the ice even if he was the first overall selection.

Arneil's leaving probably had a lot to do with the fact that he was paying his own way and since his father wasn't coaching the Blue Jackets any more and had moved out of state he had to pay out of state tuition.
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Yes, it's Osiecki's job to put a decent OSU program first, but more importantly it's his job to develop players. There are dozens of first year players that don't adjust to Collegiate hockey but with proper coaching and mentoring they usually adjust and in most cases grow in maturity and develop their skills. If a coach craps out on you the word spreads quickly and you run the risk of losing good players to other hockey programs. Most of these scholarship players have numerous schools waiting to offer the chance to be in their programs. If OSU makes a habit of releasing players, where do you think future prospects will decide to go?
 
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