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Official XXX Olympics Results - Spoilers Welcome

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May-Treanor / Walsh Jennings win gold! :) Kessy / Ross silver.

US ahead of China on medal total too.
 
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Did the NBC promo to the USA/AUS basketball game really just call them the "Dream Team"? There is only one Dream Team, and there will only be one Dream Team, and they played in 1992 in Spain.
 
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Decathlon is half way over. Ashton Eaton continues to lead- he's doing great.

Possible controversy- Trey Hardee may have stepped on the line in his 400m heat- as of the end of the broadcast, no protests. But he's in 2nd at halfway.
 
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Haven't seen it, sorry if this is a repeat. US 1 - 3 in women's long jump. Good day at the track.
 
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Looks like Canadian women will win bronze in soccer.....scored in 2nd minute of stoppage time to take 1-0 lead late in 2nd half.
 
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Goal by someone not named Christine Sinclair. Good for them.
 
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Women's water polo: In the 7-8 relegation match, Italy is ahead of Great Britain 9-5 most of the way through the 3rd.

The USA will play Spain for the gold medal at 3PM Eastern, 1:40PM Eastern will be Australia/Hungary for the bronze. The USA and Spain tied their match back in the prelims after the USA blew a 9-6 lead late in the 4th.
 
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Women's volleyball has South Korea vs. USA in the semifinal right now. Currently a load of side-outs (to use 20th century terminology, they of course now use rally scoring), still in the first set.
 
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I don't follow volleyball closely enough to know, but I was thinking about the switch to rally scoring a few days ago. That must have been hugely controversial at the time - it would have completely changed the emphasis of the game. Before rally scoring, you would have had to score on 11(?) of your own serves to win a set (game), but now you only have to score on 2 of your own serves (out of ~20) to win. This would be a huge shift to emphasis on offense (the serve receiver gets the first opportunity for a kill) over defense (being able to handle that first kill) - if you can "side-out" 100% of the time, you will eventually win the game.
 
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Decathlon is through 8 events, and Ashton Eaton is extending his lead. He didn't do well in the discus, but everything else- wow.

Still have the javelin and 1500m to go.
 
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I don't follow volleyball closely enough to know, but I was thinking about the switch to rally scoring a few days ago. That must have been hugely controversial at the time - it would have completely changed the emphasis of the game. Before rally scoring, you would have had to score on 11(?) of your own serves to win a set (game), but now you only have to score on 2 of your own serves (out of ~20) to win. This would be a huge shift to emphasis on offense (the serve receiver gets the first opportunity for a kill) over defense (being able to handle that first kill) - if you can "side-out" 100% of the time, you will eventually win the game.

Actually, I think they may have put in a rule at some point in the 90's where sets were timed, and they change to rally scoring when there was a certain amount of time left. Most of the games were taking too long, think of it like the anti-baseball. Obviously they could go interminably since you must win by 2 points. As for the old scoring, it was 15 for men, 11 for women.
 
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Oh, and track medals awarded today:
Triple Jump (two Americans in the final)
Mens 800m (again 2 Americans left, this is a interesting distance, but we've now shown 10000m and 1500m is very good, and 400m... welll)
Mens 200m- I expect this to be a great race- 3:55pm if you have access to a computer or are at home.
Womens Javelin
And the Decathlon finishes the 1500m at 4:20 (which I'll miss being in commute)
 
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I don't follow volleyball closely enough to know, but I was thinking about the switch to rally scoring a few days ago. That must have been hugely controversial at the time - it would have completely changed the emphasis of the game. Before rally scoring, you would have had to score on 11(?) of your own serves to win a set (game), but now you only have to score on 2 of your own serves (out of ~20) to win. This would be a huge shift to emphasis on offense (the serve receiver gets the first opportunity for a kill) over defense (being able to handle that first kill) - if you can "side-out" 100% of the time, you will eventually win the game.

Excellent observations!

for amusement, I sometimes keep track under the "old" rules....last night's final between May - Walsh vs Kessy - Ross, for example, was 7-2, 7-2 I think.

Certainly it makes a big difference at the start of the game! you actually can win by 1 point under the old rules! you receive first, side out, it's 1 - 0, you score 1 point on your serve, it's 2 - 0, then side-out the rest of the way, you win by 2 under the new rules but only by 1 under the old rules.

Under the old rules, you'd always pick serve first; under the new rules, you'd probably pick receive first (chances of scoring on opponents' serve is well over 50%).

I think the new rules were probably adopted to facilitate tournament play, especially on the beach, though I'm really not at all sure of their genesis. My playing career was winding down just when pro beach volleyball became popular (I had modest success in semi-pro beach play in the midwest, winning a few hundred dollars every other weekend or so, but when the "real" pro tour came to town, I realized how much better those guys were than I ever could aspire to be! They'd let local players enter the early rounds and knock each other off, then slot the touring pros in at the round of 16 or so. We actually played one of them once and were thrilled just to score a few points. Blocking seemed kind of futile since they could hit over us anyway, but it was safer than not blocking and getting "six-packed"*)

I find some of the commentary a bit amusing. When talking about which player to serve, our general rule was "serve the better setter" since you typically would score points only if they shanked the service reception (which usually only happened if it was windy and you knew how to spin the ball into the wind), or off of hitting "errors," which may have allowed you to dig a spike. A lot of the dinks and pokes you see in the women's game wouldn't work so well in the men's game, the men are just bigger and faster and stronger and the court is the same size. The men could run them down while the women couldn't (the men's net is 8' while the women's net is something like 7' 4-1/2" or so).

The more important rule change for beach players was allowing the blocker to penetrate the plane of the net. that was huge. it really tilted the game toward taller players; before that rule change, a shorter player could at least "tool" the block (deliberately hit into the block in such a way that the ball would carom out of play).




* a "six-pack" is when you spiked a ball into the face of a player on the other team. all your teammates would each buy you a beer, hence the name....from time to time you actually could cause a bloody nose.....
 
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4x400m mens relay was this morning- Trinidad & Tobago, Great Britain, and Cuba qualified in heat 1- T&T, GB with identical 3:00.38; Bahmas, US, and Russia qualified in heat 2. If times mean anything, the Bahamas and US were 2 seconds faster. But I suspect that they all pulled up at the end.

Jamaica did not finish... oops.

Final tomorrow.
 
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women's volleyball: USA up 2-0 on Korea in sets, and very much leading the third.
 
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It's official: 3-0 sets winner for the USA. They will face either Brazil or Japan for the gold medal. Brazil took one set against the USA, naturally they haven't faced Japan yet.
 
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Watching rhythmic gymnastics right now-First, I absolutely do not think this event belongs in the Olympics(But I think that about all the sports that are judged rather timed or measured). Second, I have yet to see one of these girls that i would not shtup in a heartbeat. I do not know where these beauties were when I was younger but i would have been on any one of them like a glove!;)
 
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:( uh oh this is not good, Australia 39 USA 32 with 6 min left in 2nd quarter, women's basketball semis.
 
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