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Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
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redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Your not being biased, you are being realistic.
The difference between hockey and say football is these blue chip type players are all very good academic students. The reason being that these kids are more mature coming into college because of either the junior route or prep route they all have left home at a younger age and have grown up. Also in hockey unlike any other sport they have a system like juniors which does a lot for these kids because not only is hockey a priority but most programs have academic standards as well. This is why the higher academic schools can still dominate hockey unlike football. Denver, Colorado College, BC, Miami, Notre dame to just mention a few are very good academic schools but are also very good hockey schools. Even the ivy leagues are very competitive. For me it makes a big difference having a system like juniors to elevate these kids in more than just hockey. I know for me it made all the difference in the world.
Fang- as for mullin's he signed his letter of intent so he should be here in the fall and is not going to Fargo.
Your not being biased, you are being realistic.
The difference between hockey and say football is these blue chip type players are all very good academic students. The reason being that these kids are more mature coming into college because of either the junior route or prep route they all have left home at a younger age and have grown up. Also in hockey unlike any other sport they have a system like juniors which does a lot for these kids because not only is hockey a priority but most programs have academic standards as well. This is why the higher academic schools can still dominate hockey unlike football. Denver, Colorado College, BC, Miami, Notre dame to just mention a few are very good academic schools but are also very good hockey schools. Even the ivy leagues are very competitive. For me it makes a big difference having a system like juniors to elevate these kids in more than just hockey. I know for me it made all the difference in the world.
Fang- as for mullin's he signed his letter of intent so he should be here in the fall and is not going to Fargo.
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Agree. And folks shouldn't take my previous post as being anti-Miami because I've always been a big fan of the program. Just that starting next year they'll slip to being my second favorite team...lol
Agree. And folks shouldn't take my previous post as being anti-Miami because I've always been a big fan of the program. Just that starting next year they'll slip to being my second favorite team...lol
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Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
I know that and I know what you meant, fangers, and people make good choices for themselves for lots of reasons--playing time, academic and social fit, connection to coaches, being really "wanted" in a program, geography, etc. I've heard people say MU does not get the really, really high end player too often. But MU also has not had too many players leave early, and the ones that have had three years here (say Zatkoff and Martinez) and can still get their degrees if they want to. My perception is that MU has a very attractive model in place for the right players.
I know that and I know what you meant, fangers, and people make good choices for themselves for lots of reasons--playing time, academic and social fit, connection to coaches, being really "wanted" in a program, geography, etc. I've heard people say MU does not get the really, really high end player too often. But MU also has not had too many players leave early, and the ones that have had three years here (say Zatkoff and Martinez) and can still get their degrees if they want to. My perception is that MU has a very attractive model in place for the right players.
A Shot and a Goal
Hupamone
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
One short note. Justin Mercier made his NHL debut last night with the Colorado Avalanche. He played on a line with Marek Svatos and Matt Hendricks. The Avs lost to the Minnesota Wild 1-0.
One short note. Justin Mercier made his NHL debut last night with the Colorado Avalanche. He played on a line with Marek Svatos and Matt Hendricks. The Avs lost to the Minnesota Wild 1-0.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Don't forget the coed population isn't too shaby either lol
I agree with the type of player. Miami gets the skilled guys that really aren't flight risks. Where as Minnesota gets all these blue chip draft picks and very few stay 4 years. Its a testimony to the coaching staff in identifying the type of player they want and making sure the kids understand what they are getting into. I think more and more around the country kids are noticing that they can stay in school for 3 or 4 years and be more ready to play in the NHL than leaving after a year or two and bouncing up and down between the minors.
Don't forget the coed population isn't too shaby either lol
I agree with the type of player. Miami gets the skilled guys that really aren't flight risks. Where as Minnesota gets all these blue chip draft picks and very few stay 4 years. Its a testimony to the coaching staff in identifying the type of player they want and making sure the kids understand what they are getting into. I think more and more around the country kids are noticing that they can stay in school for 3 or 4 years and be more ready to play in the NHL than leaving after a year or two and bouncing up and down between the minors.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Yea yea, and I know where your vote is in regards to UAH getting in to the CCHA or not. Hope you are saving your frequent flyer miles...
Yea yea, and I know where your vote is in regards to UAH getting in to the CCHA or not. Hope you are saving your frequent flyer miles...
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Don't forget the coed population isn't too shaby either lol
I didn't bring that up because I knew you would.
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Thanks S&G. Congrats to Justin. Also, Andy Greene had two goals last night for the Devils and is starting to be the offensive defenseman he was at Miami. Boyle had a goal last night and is third among NHL d in scoring. Jones is back up. Things are good for Miami alums right now. Oh, and all those guys stayed four years, graduated, and improved a lot when they were here.
Thanks S&G. Congrats to Justin. Also, Andy Greene had two goals last night for the Devils and is starting to be the offensive defenseman he was at Miami. Boyle had a goal last night and is third among NHL d in scoring. Jones is back up. Things are good for Miami alums right now. Oh, and all those guys stayed four years, graduated, and improved a lot when they were here.
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
And, both Boyle and Greene were undrafted adding emphasis to your point that we find the right guys in many ways.
Thanks S&G. Congrats to Justin. Also, Andy Greene had two goals last night for the Devils and is starting to be the offensive defenseman he was at Miami. Boyle had a goal last night and is third among NHL d in scoring. Jones is back up. Things are good for Miami alums right now. Oh, and all those guys stayed four years, graduated, and improved a lot when they were here.
And, both Boyle and Greene were undrafted adding emphasis to your point that we find the right guys in many ways.
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
By the way, I just received the weekly update email about hockey (don't know if I get it because of season tickets or red and white club or what). The new 11 team schedule is discussed and it sure sounded to me like this is the last year for four MU/OSU games. The BTN was brought up and the three BT teams playing four times. I have not read the scheduling system (I know it was posted on the board or somewhere, but I did not have time to read it), but I see this as probably bad for the league, but, as always, it's about money. Don't know if anyone knows the details of the schedule, but I am curious. One more reason to let UAH in.
By the way, I just received the weekly update email about hockey (don't know if I get it because of season tickets or red and white club or what). The new 11 team schedule is discussed and it sure sounded to me like this is the last year for four MU/OSU games. The BTN was brought up and the three BT teams playing four times. I have not read the scheduling system (I know it was posted on the board or somewhere, but I did not have time to read it), but I see this as probably bad for the league, but, as always, it's about money. Don't know if anyone knows the details of the schedule, but I am curious. One more reason to let UAH in.
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Be interesting year, as they have games scheduled against teams from all 5 conferences and will get to experience playing in quite a few nice venues...something that can't always experience playing in a conference...but still pulling for CCHA admittance
Yea yea, and I know where your vote is in regards to UAH getting in to the CCHA or not. Hope you are saving your frequent flyer miles...
Be interesting year, as they have games scheduled against teams from all 5 conferences and will get to experience playing in quite a few nice venues...something that can't always experience playing in a conference...but still pulling for CCHA admittance
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Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Just posted this on MHT...
Personally, if we do reduce the league schedule to 20 games as is being suggested here, yes please. That frees up 8 extra OOC games that we can play, and if we're already getting deals lined up with the likes of UNH, SCSU, and NoDak, imagine the rest of the teams that we can start bringing in to Oxford with home/home deals.
Lots of speculation that what the Big Ten teams are going to do is play their own little circuit with 2 games against each other and name their own "champ" on the side. Honestly if I were those teams I'd be ****ed, the WCHA is already losing OOC games by increasing their schedule, and if OSU/Mich/Mich St get looped in to playing Wisconsin/Minnesota every year, albeit not bad clubs, they are drastically decreasing their ability to play other teams.
So we'll have 2 against ND, OSU, Mich, Mich St, all teams with good name recognition, then having 16 OOC games (when we go to UAF, 14 without going there).
All for it.
By the way, I just received the weekly update email about hockey (don't know if I get it because of season tickets or red and white club or what). The new 11 team schedule is discussed and it sure sounded to me like this is the last year for four MU/OSU games. The BTN was brought up and the three BT teams playing four times. I have not read the scheduling system (I know it was posted on the board or somewhere, but I did not have time to read it), but I see this as probably bad for the league, but, as always, it's about money. Don't know if anyone knows the details of the schedule, but I am curious. One more reason to let UAH in.
Just posted this on MHT...
Personally, if we do reduce the league schedule to 20 games as is being suggested here, yes please. That frees up 8 extra OOC games that we can play, and if we're already getting deals lined up with the likes of UNH, SCSU, and NoDak, imagine the rest of the teams that we can start bringing in to Oxford with home/home deals.
Lots of speculation that what the Big Ten teams are going to do is play their own little circuit with 2 games against each other and name their own "champ" on the side. Honestly if I were those teams I'd be ****ed, the WCHA is already losing OOC games by increasing their schedule, and if OSU/Mich/Mich St get looped in to playing Wisconsin/Minnesota every year, albeit not bad clubs, they are drastically decreasing their ability to play other teams.
So we'll have 2 against ND, OSU, Mich, Mich St, all teams with good name recognition, then having 16 OOC games (when we go to UAF, 14 without going there).
All for it.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Atleast letting someone else in, which I still think will happen. If it isn't UAH someone will make this a 12 team league. For me I think the cluster system is good for the league and I enjoy it. Im with you if you break up the system it will hurt the league as a whole. But in reality all you would be doing is taking two OSU-MIA games away on a regular basis. If they do the BTN thing Mich-MSU would still play four times.
By the way, I just received the weekly update email about hockey (don't know if I get it because of season tickets or red and white club or what). The new 11 team schedule is discussed and it sure sounded to me like this is the last year for four MU/OSU games. The BTN was brought up and the three BT teams playing four times. I have not read the scheduling system (I know it was posted on the board or somewhere, but I did not have time to read it), but I see this as probably bad for the league, but, as always, it's about money. Don't know if anyone knows the details of the schedule, but I am curious. One more reason to let UAH in.
Atleast letting someone else in, which I still think will happen. If it isn't UAH someone will make this a 12 team league. For me I think the cluster system is good for the league and I enjoy it. Im with you if you break up the system it will hurt the league as a whole. But in reality all you would be doing is taking two OSU-MIA games away on a regular basis. If they do the BTN thing Mich-MSU would still play four times.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
Well I think they will go somewhere, but not being in a conference has nothing to do with playing in nice venues, means they scheduled well because they have a vacancy. You make the tourny you play in nice venues and if you play a good out of conference schedule you will play in nice venues. I wonder though, should they be independent next season are they elligible for the NCAA tournament?
Be interesting year, as they have games scheduled against teams from all 5 conferences and will get to experience playing in quite a few nice venues...something that can't always experience playing in a conference...but still pulling for CCHA admittance
Well I think they will go somewhere, but not being in a conference has nothing to do with playing in nice venues, means they scheduled well because they have a vacancy. You make the tourny you play in nice venues and if you play a good out of conference schedule you will play in nice venues. I wonder though, should they be independent next season are they elligible for the NCAA tournament?
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
In theory it sounds good but will it be feasable is the question. Also I highly doubt they will load up the scheudle with the additional games, there would be some cupcakes in there. But if you can get two series a year from each the WCHA and Hockey East that is a very good 8 game stretch each year. Mix in a series with a ECAC team and probably 2 and you will have the toughest schedule every year. Team will be tourny tested but it is finding the teams to fit in because there will be a lot of open dates.
In theory it sounds good but will it be feasable is the question. Also I highly doubt they will load up the scheudle with the additional games, there would be some cupcakes in there. But if you can get two series a year from each the WCHA and Hockey East that is a very good 8 game stretch each year. Mix in a series with a ECAC team and probably 2 and you will have the toughest schedule every year. Team will be tourny tested but it is finding the teams to fit in because there will be a lot of open dates.
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
This actually makes the league better I think. If you do away with the clusters, which honestly I loved playing Michigan 4 times a year when it rolled around as much as everyone else, but you don't wind up with one team getting an easier walk to the title. Case in point, last season we had Mich/Mich St/OSU, who's combined CCHA record was 40-36-8, dragged down because of Sparty, but three very talented teams. Notre Dame had BG, NMU, and Lake who went 26-46-12.
When we ran away with the league in 05-06, we had OSU/BG/ND who went went 9-1-2 against, and they were 30-45-9. Michigan finished in second with MSU/UNO/UAF, they were 4-4-4 against that cluster, who were 37-30-17. We only won the league by 7 points that year, and we can thank that record against the cluster for that.
This actually makes the league better I think. If you do away with the clusters, which honestly I loved playing Michigan 4 times a year when it rolled around as much as everyone else, but you don't wind up with one team getting an easier walk to the title. Case in point, last season we had Mich/Mich St/OSU, who's combined CCHA record was 40-36-8, dragged down because of Sparty, but three very talented teams. Notre Dame had BG, NMU, and Lake who went 26-46-12.
When we ran away with the league in 05-06, we had OSU/BG/ND who went went 9-1-2 against, and they were 30-45-9. Michigan finished in second with MSU/UNO/UAF, they were 4-4-4 against that cluster, who were 37-30-17. We only won the league by 7 points that year, and we can thank that record against the cluster for that.
redhawkman10
Behind the bench
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
ok I got a headache....
lol
I see and understand where your going with it. I don't know anymore, I think the OSU-MIA and Mich-MSU rivalries are good for the league and the teams. As is the NMU-LSSU rivalry, so I would like to keep those 4 games. I think added non-conference games would be fun, but IMO not many of those would be scheduled against powers and be beneficial towards the PWR. I mean 8 of our 10 non-conference games this year were against top ranked teams. You may add another big opponent to the additional 8 games but the other 6 would most likely be against mediocre teams.
ok I got a headache....
lolI see and understand where your going with it. I don't know anymore, I think the OSU-MIA and Mich-MSU rivalries are good for the league and the teams. As is the NMU-LSSU rivalry, so I would like to keep those 4 games. I think added non-conference games would be fun, but IMO not many of those would be scheduled against powers and be beneficial towards the PWR. I mean 8 of our 10 non-conference games this year were against top ranked teams. You may add another big opponent to the additional 8 games but the other 6 would most likely be against mediocre teams.
Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread
For purely selfish reasons, I'd hate to lose any scheduled games against Ohio State. First, I love seeing us beat up on those guys, and hopefully, it happens again this weekend. Second, I like having at least two games here in Columbus that I actually don't have to travel to attend!
Gonna be a great day today! Holiday party at work this afternoon and RedHawk hockey tonight. Can't wait! Go Hawks!
For purely selfish reasons, I'd hate to lose any scheduled games against Ohio State. First, I love seeing us beat up on those guys, and hopefully, it happens again this weekend. Second, I like having at least two games here in Columbus that I actually don't have to travel to attend!
Gonna be a great day today! Holiday party at work this afternoon and RedHawk hockey tonight. Can't wait! Go Hawks!
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