Obama 6(...66)

[ScottM]

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The Obama Fellatioathon continues ...

 

[unofan]

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Only in the sense that the Nobel Prize for Medicine is a slap in the face of disease.

I'm curious about the criticism of it being "symbolic," though. What award to a politician isn't? If the NPP was really about rewarding the individual efforts of a single person, it would always go to some obscure diplomat negotiating in Eritrea. The point of the prize is to promote peace, so the giving of it is calculated to influence future peace efforts.

Frankly, I'd rather they give it to Clinton, myself, since he at least helped broker the peace in Northern Ireland that appears (at this point) to be long-lasting if not permanent.

 

[Kepler]

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Fellatioathon

PBS should do one of those. It would raise a lot more money than Rick Steeves.

 

[Kepler]

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Frankly, I'd rather they give it to Clinton, myself, since he at least helped broker the peace in Northern Ireland that appears (at this point) to be long-lasting if not permanent.

Again, if they were going to give it on the merits, why not give it to, I dunno... the Irish*?

* I wouldn't risk it going to Bono.

 

[Zudnic]

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best snarky comment I've heard so far:

"I don't have all the facts, but the Nobel Committee acted.. stupidly."

 

[Rover]

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Really? If it was truly balanced *including debt interest*, then those two years would not have increased the debt?



You're an ignoramus.

Dumb-bell, you took all this time out of your busy work schedule (ha!) for nothing. Debt will increase year over year because of social security obligations, which are paid for for the next 30+ years because they have a dedicated steam of income (SS taxes) to pay them off. It has nothing to do with interest on the debt. The rest of the debt is the overspending kind, which is what Clinton (and to their small credit the GOP Congress) were paying off and bringing down. We had this discussion several years ago with some other righty, and he left with his tail between his legs just like you.

You know, if you don't know something about a subject, its better if you stay silent. Its like if we have a discussion about how it feels when your school wins a national championship. Really, what could you personally add to that subject? Nothing, just like here.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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You know it's bad when the AP White House correspondent, part of a press corps that's been continually favorable to the President, writes this ...

The awarding of the Nobel Peace Price to President Barack Obama landed with a shock on darkened, still-asleep Washington. He won! For what?

For one of America's youngest presidents, in office less than nine months — and only for 12 days before the Nobel nomination deadline last February — it was an enormous honor.

This is priceless:

The prize seems to be more for Obama's promise than for his performance.

Ya think?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091009/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_nobel_analysis_1

 

[blockski]

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It's not like he nominated himself...

Nominations for the Prize may be made by a broad array of qualified individuals, including former recipients, members of national assemblies and congresses, university professors (in certain disciplines), international judges, and special advisors to the Prize Committee. In 2009, a record 205 nominations were received.[5] The Committee keeps the nominations secret and asks that nominators do the same. Over time many individuals have become known as "Nobel Peace Prize Nominees", but this designation has no official standing.[6] Nominations from 1901 to 1955, however, have been released in a database.[7] When the past nominations were released it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Erik Brandt, a member of the Swedish Parliament. Brandt retracted the nomination after a few days.[8] Other infamous nominees included Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini. However, since nomination requires only support from one qualified person (e.g., a history professor), these unusual nominations do not represent the opinions of the Nobel committee itself.

Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which recognize completed scientific or literary accomplishment, the Nobel Peace Prize may be awarded to persons or organizations that are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace. As some such processes have failed to create lasting peace, some Peace Prizes appear questionable in hindsight. For example, the awards given to Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin, Yasser Arafat, Lê Ðức Thọ, and Henry Kissinger were particularly controversial and criticized; the Kissinger-Thọ award prompted two dissenting Committee members to resign.[9]

 

[The Sicatoka]

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blockski:

So someone tore themselves away from

The Obama Fellatioathon ...

to nominate him during his first week in office.

{yawn}
Excuse my enthusiasm.

 

[Zudnic]

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I would give a lot to be a fly on the wall of Axelrod's office today. What a pickle they've put him in.

Surely the nomination was submitted by some university professor who got caught up in the personality cult. Or maybe Pelosi.

I'm thinking someone needs to nominate Charlie Rangel.

 

[Kepler]

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Why is it a pickle? He goes to Sweden (or is it Norway) and gives a speech about how peace is good. Who's that hurt exactly?

 

[ScottM]

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I'm thinking someone needs to nominate Charlie Rangel.

Or maybe Kim Jong Il since he's making noises about negotiating. However, on second thought, Obama did make peace with few beers after the Gates incident. Maybe he can create "keg stand diplomacy" ...

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Why is it a pickle? He goes to Sweden (or is it Norway) and gives a speech about how peace is good. Who's that hurt exactly?

Dude ... the environment.
Think of all of those carbon emissions to get him there and back.

 

[geezer]

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Why is it a pickle? He goes to Sweden (or is it Norway) and gives a speech about how peace is good. Who's that hurt exactly?

from (liberal Obama fanboy) Mickey Kaus's blog:

What Obama Should Do With His Nobel Peace Prize

Turn it down! Politely decline. Say he's honored but he hasn't had the time yet to accomplish what he wants to accomplish. Result: He gets at least the same amount of glory--and helps solve his narcissism problem and his Fred Armisen ('What's he done?') problem, demonstrating that he's uncomfortable with his reputation as a man overcelebrated for his potential long before he's started to realize it. ... Plus he doesn't have to waste time, during a fairly crucial period, working on yet another grand speech. ... And the downside is ... what? That the Nobel Committee feels dissed? ... P.S.: It's not as if Congress is going to think, well, he's won the Nobel Peace Prize so let's pass health care reform. But the possibility for a Nobel backlash seems non-farfetched. ... 2:48 A.M.

there's some political danger in the "Nobel backlash" part. and there's the "narcissism problem".

 

[SPIN CONTROL]

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Not at all, it was completely substantial. Taking back an arsenal representing more than half the net military might of the planet from the Neocons did more for world peace than anyone else has for the last fifty years.

Yeah, because there would be more peace in this world had the neocons not taken out Saddam and the Taliban.

What a bufoon.

 

[Rover]

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Way too much partisan whining out here. Once again America looks good on the world stage, as a sitting President is honored internationally, but a few knuckledraggers with no hope or direction in their empty lives feels the need to cry about it.

Personally, I'm proud of America on this one, just like I would have been had I been around when TR won, and how I was happy for Carter even though I remember his Presidency and it wasn't a good one. I would kindly suggest that some of you embark on getting lives instead of focusing on complaining constantly. You may find yourself better off in the end....

 

[Zudnic]

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Why is it a pickle? He goes to Sweden (or is it Norway) and gives a speech about how peace is good. Who's that hurt exactly?

Because this is in danger of becoming his jump-the-shark moment. He'd be taking credit for not doing anything. His options are to accept the award when even his fanboys realize he doesn't deserve it, exacerbating his "narcissism problem" (nice phrase, Kaus) or turn it down and look like an ***. He can't win.

 

[geezer]

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I would kindly suggest that some of you embark on getting lives instead of focusing on complaining constantly. You may find yourself better off in the end....

I'm with you again on this one. It's a meaningless tribute from a morally bankrupt organization. Not worth stressing about.

 

[Rover]

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I like this "adult" response out of the RNC...

The RNC -- seeking to capitalize on a Nobel awarded for intention and rhetoric, rather than action -- throws a jab:

The real question Americans are asking is, ‘What has President Obama actually accomplished?’ It is unfortunate that the president’s star power has outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements working towards peace and human rights. One thing is certain – President Obama won’t be receiving any awards from Americans for job creation, fiscal responsibility, or backing up rhetoric with concrete action.
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Umm...yeah. How about a one word statements - Congrats or something, or nothing at all. What a bunch of sniveling little crybabies.

 

[ScottM]

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Way too much partisan whining out here. Once again America looks good on the world stage, as a sitting President is honored internationally, but a few knuckledraggers with no hope or direction in their empty lives feels the need to cry about it.

Personally, I'm proud of America on this one, just like I would have been had I been around when TR won, and how I was happy for Carter even though I remember his Presidency and it wasn't a good one. I would kindly suggest that some of you embark on getting lives instead of focusing on complaining constantly. You may find yourself better off in the end....

The irony in your post is astounding, but not unexpected. Unlike the O-man, Carter and Roosevelt actually accomplished things to win their prizes rather than being the product of a PR campaign. If the O-man can settle a few things in Israel-Gaza, Iran, North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Latin America, etc., rather than having press conferences and making speeches he may be worthy of the award.