Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
Well, how much would that buyout be? Peanuts to a huge Big Ten school like MSU.
Well, how much would that buyout be? Peanuts to a huge Big Ten school like MSU.
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Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
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aallenpollreisz
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Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
Hollis wouldn't pay Gwoz half of what he's getting at DU. Not happening.
aallenpollreisz
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Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
If given the option, I'm sure Jackson would opt to blow up Munn, set fire to the rubble, and put out the glowing embers and ashes with his own urine.
Jackson's still really bitter about not getting the MSU job back when Mason retired.
If given the option, I'm sure Jackson would opt to blow up Munn, set fire to the rubble, and put out the glowing embers and ashes with his own urine.
Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
Will MSU even be willing to shell out top dollar to a coach? I mean Hockey is not one of the big non football sport at MSU as it can be argued it is at Minnesota, Michigan, and maybe Wisconsin, and probably will be at Penn State since their bball program is so horrendous. It does not make as much money as Bball so why do people think they will make a crazy offer that a non B10 but big hockey supporting school can't match easily?
Will MSU even be willing to shell out top dollar to a coach? I mean Hockey is not one of the big non football sport at MSU as it can be argued it is at Minnesota, Michigan, and maybe Wisconsin, and probably will be at Penn State since their bball program is so horrendous. It does not make as much money as Bball so why do people think they will make a crazy offer that a non B10 but big hockey supporting school can't match easily?
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Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
Beat me to it!
I hear Jamie Russell will be looking for a job soon.
Beat me to it!
aallenpollreisz
Fighting for the only colors.
Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
Also, if Comley has anything to do with this hire, either NMU's Walt Kyle or UAA's Dave Shyiak will be the next MSU head coach.
Also, if Comley has anything to do with this hire, either NMU's Walt Kyle or UAA's Dave Shyiak will be the next MSU head coach.
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Re: Who is coming to East Lansing
He can be formatted?
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He can be formatted?
aallenpollreisz
Fighting for the only colors.
Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
Allow me to blatantly copy and paste...
The name I'm hearing quite a bit is Danton Cole, the current coach at tNTDP. I still think this would not be a good hire. The guy took the reigns of a progressing Alabama-Huntsville in a poor yet winnable College Hockey America and had some pretty significant problems. I find this very concerning.
I'd like to see us to take a run at Frank Serratore at Air Force. He struggled at DU, but he's done wonders at Air Force. He gets the absolute most out of his limited talent and limited resources, and nearly made the Frozen Four a couple of years ago. He has great energy, a great zeal for hockey, his teams play a very up-tempo style, and this community would fall in love with him.
Dave Burkholder of Niagara and Rick Gotkin of Mercyhurst are two other options, and both have done marginally well. That said, these two have far too low of a profile to coach at Michigan State, and neither has state of Michigan ties to my knowledge. Derek Schooley at Robert Morris is a slightly better choice and has Michigan ties, but I don't see him at MSU.
If we want to "keep it in the family," Bob Daniels is perhaps the best option. He's kind of old, but he's done well (however, not great) at Ferris. If this university falls in love with the "family" option, Daniels is perhaps the best available.
I'd like Newell Brown, too. He was a former assistant under Mason during the late 80s, and coached at Michigan Tech for two seasons. He didn't do that well at Tech, but nobody has done well at that job since, well, a long while. His professional coaching career is pretty solid, however: Four winning seasons as the head coach of the Adirondack Red Wings of the AHL, and an extensive career as an assistant with the Ducks, Blackhawks, and Blue Jackets. Of those available, Newell has the best experience, but I don't know if he'd want to come back to college hockey.
Keith Allain at Yale would be a massive home run. I'd think he'd be pretty affordable, too. That said, he has no state of Michigan ties.
George Gwozdecky, Enrico Blasi, and Jeff Jackson are total pipe-dreams and aren't happening. All three would be too expensive, and all three would be taking major steps backward if they wanted to come from their current employer to Michigan State. Also, if given the option, I'm pretty sure Jeff Jackson would love to nuke Munn Ice Arena and the city of East Lansing.
Allow me to blatantly copy and paste...
The name I'm hearing quite a bit is Danton Cole, the current coach at tNTDP. I still think this would not be a good hire. The guy took the reigns of a progressing Alabama-Huntsville in a poor yet winnable College Hockey America and had some pretty significant problems. I find this very concerning.
I'd like to see us to take a run at Frank Serratore at Air Force. He struggled at DU, but he's done wonders at Air Force. He gets the absolute most out of his limited talent and limited resources, and nearly made the Frozen Four a couple of years ago. He has great energy, a great zeal for hockey, his teams play a very up-tempo style, and this community would fall in love with him.
Dave Burkholder of Niagara and Rick Gotkin of Mercyhurst are two other options, and both have done marginally well. That said, these two have far too low of a profile to coach at Michigan State, and neither has state of Michigan ties to my knowledge. Derek Schooley at Robert Morris is a slightly better choice and has Michigan ties, but I don't see him at MSU.
If we want to "keep it in the family," Bob Daniels is perhaps the best option. He's kind of old, but he's done well (however, not great) at Ferris. If this university falls in love with the "family" option, Daniels is perhaps the best available.
I'd like Newell Brown, too. He was a former assistant under Mason during the late 80s, and coached at Michigan Tech for two seasons. He didn't do that well at Tech, but nobody has done well at that job since, well, a long while. His professional coaching career is pretty solid, however: Four winning seasons as the head coach of the Adirondack Red Wings of the AHL, and an extensive career as an assistant with the Ducks, Blackhawks, and Blue Jackets. Of those available, Newell has the best experience, but I don't know if he'd want to come back to college hockey.
Keith Allain at Yale would be a massive home run. I'd think he'd be pretty affordable, too. That said, he has no state of Michigan ties.
George Gwozdecky, Enrico Blasi, and Jeff Jackson are total pipe-dreams and aren't happening. All three would be too expensive, and all three would be taking major steps backward if they wanted to come from their current employer to Michigan State. Also, if given the option, I'm pretty sure Jeff Jackson would love to nuke Munn Ice Arena and the city of East Lansing.
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If they're willing to hold out for a while they might be able to get Don Lucia.
The question then would be: does Hill go with him?
Would also make for some interesting times if the BTHC becomes a reality.
I also wonder how contentious that hire would be among Spartan faithful. Lucia likely has lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of college hockey fans who have been paying attention; but there is no question he at least has the ability to be a great coach.
If they're willing to hold out for a while they might be able to get Don Lucia.
The question then would be: does Hill go with him?
Would also make for some interesting times if the BTHC becomes a reality.
I also wonder how contentious that hire would be among Spartan faithful. Lucia likely has lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of college hockey fans who have been paying attention; but there is no question he at least has the ability to be a great coach.
aallenpollreisz
Fighting for the only colors.
Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
Watching the press conference online, it's apparent to me that Hollis is forcing this retirement. So, we can rule out Walt Kyle and Dave Shyiak.
This is all on Hollis now. Though I've questioned Hollis' commitment toward hockey in the past, it took major cojones on Hollis' part to actually pull the trigger. Now I can only pray Hollis makes the right decision for this program.
Watching the press conference online, it's apparent to me that Hollis is forcing this retirement. So, we can rule out Walt Kyle and Dave Shyiak.
This is all on Hollis now. Though I've questioned Hollis' commitment toward hockey in the past, it took major cojones on Hollis' part to actually pull the trigger. Now I can only pray Hollis makes the right decision for this program.
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DU can pay their hockey coach for than MSU? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me...
Jeez, does he talk about it constantly?
Hockey isn't a big non-football sport at MSU?
Ha, can't imagine either of those would be well received by the MSU faithful.
DU can pay their hockey coach for than MSU? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me...
Jeez, does he talk about it constantly?
Hockey isn't a big non-football sport at MSU?
Ha, can't imagine either of those would be well received by the MSU faithful.
Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
That was my take when I heard the news. I've been thinking it a strong likelihood for the past couple months, although I wasn't sure it would happen just because I'm totally unfamiliar with the MSU athletic dept. and AD....and I am a bit surprised to see it come out this early.
That was my take when I heard the news. I've been thinking it a strong likelihood for the past couple months, although I wasn't sure it would happen just because I'm totally unfamiliar with the MSU athletic dept. and AD....and I am a bit surprised to see it come out this early.
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I actually hold Shyiak in very high esteem as a coach. I'm pretty curious about what he could do at more of a "power" program.
I actually hold Shyiak in very high esteem as a coach. I'm pretty curious about what he could do at more of a "power" program.
aallenpollreisz
Fighting for the only colors.
Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
The read I get from Hollis that, I think, he doesn't view hockey with any sort of premium. Football is firing on all cylinders and is generating great revenue. Basketball is also firing on all cylinders and is generating good revenue. With those two sports doing so well, why bother with hockey?
Now, I don't agree with that logic - I think it'd obviously be more advantageous to have three revenue sports doing well rather than two - but football and basketball drive the national perception of the athletic department. Hockey at one point did, but now doesn't.
Attendance has been in a very steep decline since 2006. Average attendance actually dropped the year after MSU won the national championship.
The read I get from Hollis that, I think, he doesn't view hockey with any sort of premium. Football is firing on all cylinders and is generating great revenue. Basketball is also firing on all cylinders and is generating good revenue. With those two sports doing so well, why bother with hockey?
Now, I don't agree with that logic - I think it'd obviously be more advantageous to have three revenue sports doing well rather than two - but football and basketball drive the national perception of the athletic department. Hockey at one point did, but now doesn't.
Nevergoodenough
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Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
Serratore is a pipe-dream. He would be a great coach at MSU, but he has a great situation where he is.
OK, let's think about what's left for the season: Give Renfrew (Associate Head Coach, right?) the reigns and do a, sort of, tryout himself. Maybe see if he and Newton are ready? I really don't think that is as far-fetched as you might assume. Otherwise, I'm guessing Cole is one of the top condenders. OH!!! How about Mike Guentzel, current assistant at Omaha? He was a long time assistant at MN, then had an issue with Hill and left for Colorado College, did a year in Des Moines of the USHL and now with Blais at Omaha. He would be a great candidate as I would imagine that Hastings is next in line at UNO. OR bring Hastings in.. I get excited at the options.
Serratore is a pipe-dream. He would be a great coach at MSU, but he has a great situation where he is.
OK, let's think about what's left for the season: Give Renfrew (Associate Head Coach, right?) the reigns and do a, sort of, tryout himself. Maybe see if he and Newton are ready? I really don't think that is as far-fetched as you might assume. Otherwise, I'm guessing Cole is one of the top condenders. OH!!! How about Mike Guentzel, current assistant at Omaha? He was a long time assistant at MN, then had an issue with Hill and left for Colorado College, did a year in Des Moines of the USHL and now with Blais at Omaha. He would be a great candidate as I would imagine that Hastings is next in line at UNO. OR bring Hastings in.. I get excited at the options.
owslachief
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I haven't seen or heard the press conference, but after some offline feedback and from reading his somewhat defiant statements, I agree with aallen. A likely scenario is Comley had a talk with higher ups and was given a little "nudge".
I believe despite Hollis' relative silence on the subject of MSU hockey in his tenure that he does value the importance of successful hockey here.
I haven't seen or heard the press conference, but after some offline feedback and from reading his somewhat defiant statements, I agree with aallen. A likely scenario is Comley had a talk with higher ups and was given a little "nudge".
I believe despite Hollis' relative silence on the subject of MSU hockey in his tenure that he does value the importance of successful hockey here.
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Arwen22266
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Do you actually think, if Comley is being forced out, that he would have anything to do with who his successor would be? Use your head, boy ...
Do you actually think, if Comley is being forced out, that he would have anything to do with who his successor would be? Use your head, boy ...
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Re: Now. Who is coming to East Lansing
While I don't know Sandelin and his motivations, I doubt he would want to leave UMD.
While I don't know Sandelin and his motivations, I doubt he would want to leave UMD.