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Notre Dame to join Big Ten?

Re: Notre Dame to join Big Ten?

Why would the Big Ten agree to this if it wasn't including football? And if there was a chance in hell of Notre Dame joining in football, Nebraska would not have just joined the conference.

From what I heard, the Big Ten put out a feeler last year (when it was rumored Penn State would be adding a men's team) to see if Notre Dame had any interest in joining the Big Ten in hockey and football. I heard the answer was, no thank you.

So, that's why we have Nebraska in the Big Ten for football and Notre Dame isn't being considered for the Big Ten in hockey.
 
I see no reason for the B1G to not try. They never had it before and now that they do I see no reason to not use it.

Sean
It's a valid point there, but I would think the Irish would laugh the big ten out of the if they tried to use the hockey team to reel in perhaps the biggest prize in college sports in ND football. They've got plenty of other options to go to than to the big ten.
 
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As a conference, the Big Ten is going to want them in all sports, including football and hoops. As long as NBC keeps paying for the broadcast rights for Irish football, Notre Dame's not making the jump to the Big Ten or any other conference.

Thus, Notre Dame won't be a hockey member for a while.
 
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My buddy is the site owner, he did one with a bunch of WCHA teams too!
 
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AWESOME! Love the the games :)

Did he post the WCHA game somewhere for download?
ill ask him about it, i hadn't realized he put up a site already, the last time i talked to him about it he was still designing the logos and things.
 
Re: Notre Dame to join Big Ten?

ill ask him about it, i hadn't realized he put up a site already, the last time i talked to him about it he was still designing the logos and things.

Thanks! Pass on some props to your buddy for me :)
 
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perhaps ND and the Big Ten are hammering out a deal for ND to become a Big Ten school?
The Big 10 has made it clear that a member in any sport is a member in all sports. Notre Dame has made it clear their football team will remain independant. So I would be shocked if there is a deal in the works.

It is also worth noting that Tom Nevala, Notre Dame's associate athletic director/hockey administrator, has flat out stated that "Joining the Big Ten conference for hockey is not a possibility". (http://articles.southbendtribune.com/2011-07-12/sports/29767363_1_ccha-hockey-east-tom-nevala)
 
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Once again EA has neglected to include ncaa teams in this years edition of NHL
http://www.ea.com/nhl/1/nhl-12-hockey-whiteboard
No college hockey videogame:(

They're not going to because it'd be a pain in the *** to include college hockey.

Canadian Juniors are basically already set up the same as AHL and NHL teams, so coding it is the same as a baseball game having AA and AAA teams for each franchise.

College hockey has fewer games almost all within conference play, uneven conference size, different tournament setups, and a single elimination 16 team playoff to code for.
 
Re: Notre Dame to join Big Ten?

Notre Dame has been courted now and then over the years by several conferences but they felt it was in their best interests to keep things as they are. Of course it was because of their football program that they were wanted but what may be a good fit for one of the school's sports may not be a good fit for the other sports. Notre Dame would be allowed to play Big Ten teams in non-conference games which the Big Ten will need a lot of with only 6 member teams in their new conference but NCAA rules prohibit a school from being a member of a true conference in only one sport, it's all of your sports or nothing. This of course doesn't apply to "orphan" conferences like the CCHA which existed because the members school's true conference alignments don't have the minimum 6 teams to have their own hockey. Now due to Penn State the Big Ten now has the required 6 teams and hence you now have Big Ten Hockey. Everyone understand this?
 
Notre Dame has been courted now and then over the years by several conferences but they felt it was in their best interests to keep things as they are. Of course it was because of their football program that they were wanted but what may be a good fit for one of the school's sports may not be a good fit for the other sports. Notre Dame would be allowed to play Big Ten teams in non-conference games which the Big Ten will need a lot of with only 6 member teams in their new conference but NCAA rules prohibit a school from being a member of a true conference in only one sport, it's all of your sports or nothing. This of course doesn't apply to "orphan" conferences like the CCHA which existed because the members school's true conference alignments don't have the minimum 6 teams to have their own hockey. Now due to Penn State the Big Ten now has the required 6 teams and hence you now have Big Ten Hockey. Everyone understand this?
The B1G was not required by NCAA rules to sponsor hockey. I don't believe it was even REQUIRED in conference by-laws.* The "all or nothing" is a B1G thing, not NCAA. If it was, ND would be in the Big East for football.

*If I've read correctly what's been posted, the vote was required when 6 teams had a sport, but not necessarily conference sponsorship if that's the way the vote went. I'm sure Alton or someone can correct me if I am wrong.
 
Re: Notre Dame to join Big Ten?

The Big 10 has made it clear that a member in any sport is a member in all sports. Notre Dame has made it clear their football team will remain independant. So I would be shocked if there is a deal in the works.

It is also worth noting that Tom Nevala, Notre Dame's associate athletic director/hockey administrator, has flat out stated that "Joining the Big Ten conference for hockey is not a possibility". (http://articles.southbendtribune.com/2011-07-12/sports/29767363_1_ccha-hockey-east-tom-nevala)

Even more worth noting...he considered the ECAC more of a possibility for Notre Dame than the Big Ten.

(The following is a joke. Please take it as such.) Which means, of course, that the delay is that Notre Dame is waiting for the Ivies to separate from the ECAC, so that Notre Dame can become an associate member of the ILHC.
 
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but NCAA rules prohibit a school from being a member of a true conference in only one sport, it's all of your sports or nothing.

This is wildly untrue, and there are numerous examples present and recent past of teams only being partially in one conference. ND non-football sports is the most glaring one. Temple football used to be a Big East member, while they were A-10 in all other sports.
 
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They're not going to because it'd be a pain in the *** to include college hockey.

Canadian Juniors are basically already set up the same as AHL and NHL teams, so coding it is the same as a baseball game having AA and AAA teams for each franchise.

College hockey has fewer games almost all within conference play, uneven conference size, different tournament setups, and a single elimination 16 team playoff to code for.

Of all the actual reasons this will never happen, you think that the difficulty of modifying the code from a 16 team best-of-7 tournament to a 16 team single elimination tournament is one of them?
 
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Sorry for the brain fart, what I meant was Big Ten rules only allow all sports participation to be a member of the conference not NCAA rules. The Big Ten has never allowed a team from another conference to be a partial or one sport member. This doesn't mean they can't change their bylaws if they so wish but I really don't see it happening - unless they think they can take in some big bucks!
 
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