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Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

HHound said:
Yes, he can.

Did you read bu's release agreement as carefully as JM and his staff? Did you also get confirmation from Quinn concerning his status?

We still remember your call on Jamie Oleksiak:eek: I know you have great sources of opinions and sometimes facts, but no one is right all the time
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100% guaranteed he cant play. Quinn has no say what so ever, on whether he can play or where he can transfer to. none
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Agganis said:
As of 4 months ago there was no waiver to allow you to play immediately when transferring between D1 Men's Hockey teams (http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/council-recommends-transfer-policy-change). As much as I hope that did change, it certainly would have been reported somewhere so I don't believe HHound's conclusions about the situation are correct.
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I agree that it seems as though it would be impossible to transfer and play right away, but at the same time isn't it also completely against NCAA regulations to announce an incoming player before it's in writing and approved through all of the proper channels?
 
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Hokydad said:
100% guaranteed he cant play. Quinn has no say what so ever, on whether he can play or where he can transfer to. none
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While it is true that Quinn has no say on whether he can play without sitting out a year, it is untrue that Quinn (through the BU athletic director) has no say on where he can transfer. The NCAA rules are so ridiculous that a D1 player who wants to transfer to another D1 school needs to get permission from the current school's AD to even contact a coach at another D1 school. The AD can deny the request or limit the schools he can contact. If the athlete is not happy with the result, then he has an automatic appeal right to an administrator at the school outside the athletic department. Once the athlete has the permission to contact other D1 schools, he still needs to sit out and spend a year in residence at the new school before he can play (though he can practice with the team during this year). There is an automatic one-time transfer exception for all sports other than Football, Men's and Women's Basketball and Men's Hockey. In the sports that don't benefit from the automatic one-time transfer exception, the athlete (with the support of the new school) can apply to the NCAA for a waiver of the year-in-residence requirement by demonstrating substantial hardship. The most common reason that succeeds is to move closer to sick parent or other family member (which wouldn't apply to Collier). However, due to all of the heat that the NCAA has received in the past year for being anti-student and pro-coach, I think we are going to see that waiver granted much more frequently going forward to avoid law suits and more bad publicity (Collier cannot play this year unless the specific waiver was granted and I don't think he would have received it prior to the beating the NCAA took over the past 4 months relating to the Shabazz Rule, the O'Bannon Case and the Power Football Conferences). The NCAA pretends that the transfer restrictions are to protect the student-athlete from focusing solely on athletics and not on academics. However, everybody knows that is it really to protect the D1 coaches in those 4 sports, who want the ability to hoard and/or mistreat players without any fear that the player will transfer to another program, particularly one in the same conference. I think the NCAA will voluntarily relax these transfer restrictions in the next 2 or 3 years to improve its image and preserve its relevance, but past attempts to change these rules have failed.
 
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Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Run-off Waiver
According to The Oklahoman, “OU will appeal using the so-called “run-off” waiver, created by the NCAA a couple years ago for players who were removed from their programs for reasons beyond their control. Oklahoma State’s basketball team added senior point guard Anthony Hickey, a three-year starter at LSU, and Hickey was granted immediate eligibility under the run-off rule.”
http://fansided.com/2014/08/12/okla...al-green-beckhams-eligibility-appeal/#!bNkMy4
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Didn't work for OU football, but did for OSU basketball.
Hockey?
 
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vizoroo said:
Run-off Waiver

Didn't work for OU football, but did for OSU basketball.
Hockey?
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Good point. Found this article online that gives more details. http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2014/02/06/the-ncaas-little-known-run-off-waiver.htm
Haven't seen it used in hockey before, but this could explain why he can play immediately. So, Quinn did have control over this, since the previous institution has to support it.
 
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100% fact, not able to play this year
that waiver cant be used in hockey
 
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Hokydad said:
100% fact, not able to play this year
that waiver cant be used in hockey
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It can be used for hockey. See Section 9(c)(1) in this NCAA document. https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/DI+SLR+Guidelines.pdf
The exception applies to any "sport that is not eligible for the one-time transfer exception per Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10 (a) (one-time transfer exception)." Men's Hockey is one of those sports. So, kudos to vizoroo for finding this exception and let's hope Collier has a great season for the Huskies.
 
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Hokydad said:
100% fact, not able to play this year
that waiver cant be used in hockey
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I don't know why you're so intent on denying it. It's pretty clear through everything NU has released (official release adding him to the recruiting class, player/position/class/number added to NU roster) that he's going to be playing. Coming in every other post just to say "No he isn't" isn't actually going to change that. Compare it to when Saponari transferred to NU, where he wasn't acknowledged at all by the program the whole time he sat out and played in the USHL. He was added in the writeup for the next year's recruiting class at the end of August, exactly when Collier was. Or, for an example where the player wasn't juggling around and trying to play for BC, Snyderman was included in the incoming recruits for the year he sat out, and the very first sentence after his name was "will have to sit out the 2012-13 season per NCAA rules but will have junior status in 2013-14." The question isn't whether Collier is playing, the question is how it happened. Which seems to have been answered now.
 
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difference with vin s sas he had juniors available, did the 4/2/4 route. collier aged out

sitting out, end of story
 
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Hokydad said:
difference with vin s sas he had juniors available, did the 4/2/4 route. collier aged out

sitting out, end of story
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When he is out there against UVM in a few weeks, feel free to make your donation to the program in honor of Collier for HHound being right.

When it comes to who is and who is out and who is sitting, I do not even bother to question HHound. Its coming straight from the horses mouth.
 
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lets hope. Waiver has not been approved yet, filed but not approved..
Jim Jones called and he was looki.g for you. Had some kool aid for you.
 
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Hokydad said:
lets hope. Waiver has not been approved yet, filed but not approved..
Jim Jones called and he was looki.g for you. Had some kool aid for you.
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changing your tune. first it was cant happen wont happen. now its wavier has been filed but not approved.

someone should have taught you not to speak up on topics you have no clue about. and as it has been proven over and over again, you have little to no insight into the NU program. best stick to which ever programs you know better.
 
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Huskies01 said:
changing your tune. first it was cant happen wont happen. now its wavier has been filed but not approved.

someone should have taught you not to speak up on topics you have no clue about. and as it has been proven over and over again, you have little to no insight into the NU program. best stick to which ever programs you know better.
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Time will tell!!!
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

I have absolutely no insight to this situation, but it would seem to make sense that if a player is cut, rather than requesting his release, he shouldn't have to sit out a year.
 
PPGuru said:
I have absolutely no insight to this situation, but it would seem to make sense that if a player is cut, rather than requesting his release, he shouldn't have to sit out a year.
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i would like to take this opportunity to introduce you to the most toxic entity out there. the ncaa
 
Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Just checked Heisenberg's 2015 page and Duchenese and Courtinier are not listed?
 
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