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Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
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SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
First off, nobody here (retsap) needs to be calling names. Let's act like adults.
Okay to address all these points...
Huskies01 is at least partially right, without Witt contending for a Hobey, we are 8-10 in HEA. That is pretty much a fact.
BUT, you are underestimating our offensive depth a bit. Look at UMass-Lowell, they have 11 players with at least 10 points this season. Northeastern also has 11 guys with at least 10 points. Only two of their forwards have hit 10 points in HEA games, we have three. Lowell has 4 players with 9 or more goals, we have three and Hedges at 8.
The offense is fine and Ferreiro has been injured (he needs to be on the 2nd line, Snydeman is not a top 6 player).
And don't use the conference only stats argument because the HEA schedule this year has forced teams to play multiple non-conference games against conference opponents. Comparisons are fair.
The defense is the big issue but it is kind of thrown together, I think 2014-2015 is the year when we get the guys Madigan really wants playing. Hopefully better skaters. Right now the most talented defenseman on the team is Benning but he's a freshman. I don't know what they have to do to get the shots allowed down but **** it, if we need to play a 1-3-1 system in the neutral zone so **** be it. If they could get the shots allowed down from around 40 to around 30, this team has a very high chance to win each game with Witt back there.
Goaltending...what else can be said, Witt is putting on an absolute show and should be a Hbey finalist if he keeps it up down the stretch. He is so much more mentally prepared and tough than Rawlings. He lets a goal in and it's RIGHT back to business instead of collapsing. Assuming we make the tournament he gives us a chance to go places.
Coaching...Still not sold on Madigan. My issue is with adjustments. If something's not working, you change it. It's time for Ferreiro to move into the top 6, we need him playing with other talented players to utilitize his shot etc. It's time to alter the defense to cut shots down. I'd also like to see Schecter get some playing time, kid was phenomenal in the first weekend against BC.
Your "little sisters of the poor" comment is a bit off base. The only truly crap team we've played in Alabama-Huntsville. St. Lawrence had swept Maine and split with an elite Ferris State team coming into the series vs. Northeastern. Our other non-conference games have included Notre Dame, Vermont, Western Michigan and Boston College.
Regardless of how you analyze it, to be T-10th in the pairwise in February was not expected so some credit has to be given and this team has 12 freshmen, don't care how old, there is an adjustment to HEA and moreso, they've pretty much had to create chemistry as they go as opposed to teams who know the guys they are playing with. The offense is better than we thought, I mean we scored 81 goals last year, 81, that's god-awful. The defense is what we thought it'd be. Just not enough ability to control the puck.
Down the pipeline the 2016 class is stocking up with Jozefek and Filipe coming in. Either way, Witt's a junior and that's the best news.
First off, nobody here (retsap) needs to be calling names. Let's act like adults.
Okay to address all these points...
Huskies01 is at least partially right, without Witt contending for a Hobey, we are 8-10 in HEA. That is pretty much a fact.
BUT, you are underestimating our offensive depth a bit. Look at UMass-Lowell, they have 11 players with at least 10 points this season. Northeastern also has 11 guys with at least 10 points. Only two of their forwards have hit 10 points in HEA games, we have three. Lowell has 4 players with 9 or more goals, we have three and Hedges at 8.
The offense is fine and Ferreiro has been injured (he needs to be on the 2nd line, Snydeman is not a top 6 player).
And don't use the conference only stats argument because the HEA schedule this year has forced teams to play multiple non-conference games against conference opponents. Comparisons are fair.
The defense is the big issue but it is kind of thrown together, I think 2014-2015 is the year when we get the guys Madigan really wants playing. Hopefully better skaters. Right now the most talented defenseman on the team is Benning but he's a freshman. I don't know what they have to do to get the shots allowed down but **** it, if we need to play a 1-3-1 system in the neutral zone so **** be it. If they could get the shots allowed down from around 40 to around 30, this team has a very high chance to win each game with Witt back there.
Goaltending...what else can be said, Witt is putting on an absolute show and should be a Hbey finalist if he keeps it up down the stretch. He is so much more mentally prepared and tough than Rawlings. He lets a goal in and it's RIGHT back to business instead of collapsing. Assuming we make the tournament he gives us a chance to go places.
Coaching...Still not sold on Madigan. My issue is with adjustments. If something's not working, you change it. It's time for Ferreiro to move into the top 6, we need him playing with other talented players to utilitize his shot etc. It's time to alter the defense to cut shots down. I'd also like to see Schecter get some playing time, kid was phenomenal in the first weekend against BC.
Your "little sisters of the poor" comment is a bit off base. The only truly crap team we've played in Alabama-Huntsville. St. Lawrence had swept Maine and split with an elite Ferris State team coming into the series vs. Northeastern. Our other non-conference games have included Notre Dame, Vermont, Western Michigan and Boston College.
Regardless of how you analyze it, to be T-10th in the pairwise in February was not expected so some credit has to be given and this team has 12 freshmen, don't care how old, there is an adjustment to HEA and moreso, they've pretty much had to create chemistry as they go as opposed to teams who know the guys they are playing with. The offense is better than we thought, I mean we scored 81 goals last year, 81, that's god-awful. The defense is what we thought it'd be. Just not enough ability to control the puck.
Down the pipeline the 2016 class is stocking up with Jozefek and Filipe coming in. Either way, Witt's a junior and that's the best news.
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Yes, but you'll have to pay $9.95 for the cheapest subscription that will get you this game. You can link to this feed and any other video feed from the NU Hockey Schedule page, which is located here http://gonu.com/schedule.aspx?tab=schedule2&path=mhockey
There is also a link on the schedule page to the audio feed that has the NU broadcasters.
Yes, but you'll have to pay $9.95 for the cheapest subscription that will get you this game. You can link to this feed and any other video feed from the NU Hockey Schedule page, which is located here http://gonu.com/schedule.aspx?tab=schedule2&path=mhockey
There is also a link on the schedule page to the audio feed that has the NU broadcasters.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Since this is Valentine's Day, I'm going to have nothing but love for both Huskies01, who said so many things that are spot on, and SkinsFan09, who also made some great observations. Let's get the easy stuff out of the way first. The D has been painful to watch and, inexplicably, the only Dman with the quickness and explosiveness to keep up with BC (as demonstrated the first BC weekend) has been sitting in the stands in street clothes since the less-than-fleet-footed Gunn returned to the lineup. JM does not think the D is bad because we don't give up many goals. In his interviews, he is not concerned with all the shots on goal the team gives up because he doesn't think those are quality shots. As we all know, there are a lot of quality shots in there, but Witt has been extraordinary. As you will recall, the last time Witt didn't play, we gave up 8 goals to a 2-11 team. And he didn't change the lineup at all for the next game, other than in net. Which brings us to the next point, adjustments. As SkinsFan09 points out, JM does not make adjustments within games and he doesn't make them from game to game. When a lineup has a crappy game (Air Force), he says he expects more from them and gives them another chance. Then, they stink it up again against Dartmouth the next game and get another chance at redemption. If there is no accountability for playing poorly or stupidly (e.g., dumb, costly penalties), then it is tough to expect improvement. I do believe that the O is a little deeper than Huskies01 believes, but he makes a good point and the stagnant lineup is not so deep that the deck should never be shuffled. There should be no sacred cows and kids should sit for other than injury and different line combos should be given a chance. It seems like the lineup and the power play and penalty kill were all put in place based on how well it worked against Dalhousie and Alabama Huntsville and there have been no creative changes since then. Yes, the team is in decent position right now, but they haven't won anything yet, except for a silly trophy at a sub-par tournament at ND. The key is to actually try to win something meaningful, like a Hockey East Championship, and to make it to the NCAA tourney. At the current pace (1-3 in the last 4 games) and with the current lineup and power play, I'm afraid there will be heartache once again on Huntington Ave. unless Clay Witt plays even better than he already has. But, since this is Valentine's Day, let's look on the bright side - if he doesn't play unbelievably well, there is a better chance that he returns next year instead of testing the free agent market.
Since this is Valentine's Day, I'm going to have nothing but love for both Huskies01, who said so many things that are spot on, and SkinsFan09, who also made some great observations. Let's get the easy stuff out of the way first. The D has been painful to watch and, inexplicably, the only Dman with the quickness and explosiveness to keep up with BC (as demonstrated the first BC weekend) has been sitting in the stands in street clothes since the less-than-fleet-footed Gunn returned to the lineup. JM does not think the D is bad because we don't give up many goals. In his interviews, he is not concerned with all the shots on goal the team gives up because he doesn't think those are quality shots. As we all know, there are a lot of quality shots in there, but Witt has been extraordinary. As you will recall, the last time Witt didn't play, we gave up 8 goals to a 2-11 team. And he didn't change the lineup at all for the next game, other than in net. Which brings us to the next point, adjustments. As SkinsFan09 points out, JM does not make adjustments within games and he doesn't make them from game to game. When a lineup has a crappy game (Air Force), he says he expects more from them and gives them another chance. Then, they stink it up again against Dartmouth the next game and get another chance at redemption. If there is no accountability for playing poorly or stupidly (e.g., dumb, costly penalties), then it is tough to expect improvement. I do believe that the O is a little deeper than Huskies01 believes, but he makes a good point and the stagnant lineup is not so deep that the deck should never be shuffled. There should be no sacred cows and kids should sit for other than injury and different line combos should be given a chance. It seems like the lineup and the power play and penalty kill were all put in place based on how well it worked against Dalhousie and Alabama Huntsville and there have been no creative changes since then. Yes, the team is in decent position right now, but they haven't won anything yet, except for a silly trophy at a sub-par tournament at ND. The key is to actually try to win something meaningful, like a Hockey East Championship, and to make it to the NCAA tourney. At the current pace (1-3 in the last 4 games) and with the current lineup and power play, I'm afraid there will be heartache once again on Huntington Ave. unless Clay Witt plays even better than he already has. But, since this is Valentine's Day, let's look on the bright side - if he doesn't play unbelievably well, there is a better chance that he returns next year instead of testing the free agent market.
northeastern
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
great take. JM.. NCAA or bust baby! Make some adjustments..
tough gm tomorrow.. let's get a point or more. Go Huskies
great take. JM.. NCAA or bust baby! Make some adjustments..
tough gm tomorrow.. let's get a point or more. Go Huskies
RossiRules
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
OMG, everyone must be high on LOVE this Valentine's Day. Aside form the Freshman and Roy this team is very "middle of the road" aside form the play of a terrific goalie we would likely be under .500 in Hockey East.
The team gives up too many shots and the D is sub par, lets face it, the transition game is fair but breaks down and if you think Josh Manson and the other 3 top D are good you are all nuts. Drafted or not the entire lot of them are all marginal college defenseman not pro defenseman in the NCAA"s, which is what separates the elite teams in college hockey. Anybody can find a goal scorer or two, but its 3 sets of D that separates them men form the boys. We have made up for it with Clay who for the most part has surprised the entire college hockey world this year with the best save % in the nation.
However they were picked last and are far better than anyone expected. Although they are 0-4 v BC and have had looses to Air Force and a marginally talented UMASS team at home, they seem to still need a little luck to win every night. Who doesn't?
If it were not for the crazy weather at Fenway v UMASS, they may have lost that game, but they didn't. We should just be happy with what we have accomplished to point in the season and anything else will be icing on the cake.
However, we didn't win a Beanpot, we didn't beat he Eagles once and that's just another year of NU hockey if you ask me, and if we don't get some points down the stretch, we are not even a lock for a bid to the NCAA tournament, so the jury is still out.
However if you told me they would have 16 + wins this season I would have said you were crazy. Are they going to win the National Championship? No, not anytime soon, it's just not the goal of athletics at NU,if that happens it will be by luck, When it happens at BC it happens by design.
OMG, everyone must be high on LOVE this Valentine's Day. Aside form the Freshman and Roy this team is very "middle of the road" aside form the play of a terrific goalie we would likely be under .500 in Hockey East.
The team gives up too many shots and the D is sub par, lets face it, the transition game is fair but breaks down and if you think Josh Manson and the other 3 top D are good you are all nuts. Drafted or not the entire lot of them are all marginal college defenseman not pro defenseman in the NCAA"s, which is what separates the elite teams in college hockey. Anybody can find a goal scorer or two, but its 3 sets of D that separates them men form the boys. We have made up for it with Clay who for the most part has surprised the entire college hockey world this year with the best save % in the nation.
However they were picked last and are far better than anyone expected. Although they are 0-4 v BC and have had looses to Air Force and a marginally talented UMASS team at home, they seem to still need a little luck to win every night. Who doesn't?
If it were not for the crazy weather at Fenway v UMASS, they may have lost that game, but they didn't. We should just be happy with what we have accomplished to point in the season and anything else will be icing on the cake.
However, we didn't win a Beanpot, we didn't beat he Eagles once and that's just another year of NU hockey if you ask me, and if we don't get some points down the stretch, we are not even a lock for a bid to the NCAA tournament, so the jury is still out.
However if you told me they would have 16 + wins this season I would have said you were crazy. Are they going to win the National Championship? No, not anytime soon, it's just not the goal of athletics at NU,if that happens it will be by luck, When it happens at BC it happens by design.
CollegeHockeyRinkReport
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I'm completely sold on NU recruit Matt Filipe as are many others, but here's more good press on the Malden Catholic forward following his team's 11-0 dismantling of Catholic Memorial. Filipe had a hat trick in the first period.
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/30119/recap-no-1-malden-catholic-11-no-3-cm-0
I'm completely sold on NU recruit Matt Filipe as are many others, but here's more good press on the Malden Catholic forward following his team's 11-0 dismantling of Catholic Memorial. Filipe had a hat trick in the first period.
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/30119/recap-no-1-malden-catholic-11-no-3-cm-0
SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Most embarrassing powerplay in Hockey East. Inexcusable for the coaching staff. That is scheme.
Most embarrassing powerplay in Hockey East. Inexcusable for the coaching staff. That is scheme.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Clay Witt should never have to buy another drink in Boston. He won this game for us when the rest of the team did everything they could to lose it. Our powerplay is worse than atrocious. If Keefe wasn't the recruiter he is, I'd be screaming for his head. He has zero idea what he's doing with the PP. Gunn is a buffoon for losing his cool and getting a misconduct when we were down to 4 defenders. Beyond that, I am hoping and praying that Manson and Benning's injuries weren't as bad as they sounded. Losing our top 2 Dmen in one game would sink this team. 5 goals is nice, especially since most of them were grind-them-out dirty goals. But our Achilles heel just got even worse.
Congrats to Pond on his first collegiate goal. Take the 2 points and get outta Amherst.
Clay Witt should never have to buy another drink in Boston. He won this game for us when the rest of the team did everything they could to lose it. Our powerplay is worse than atrocious. If Keefe wasn't the recruiter he is, I'd be screaming for his head. He has zero idea what he's doing with the PP. Gunn is a buffoon for losing his cool and getting a misconduct when we were down to 4 defenders. Beyond that, I am hoping and praying that Manson and Benning's injuries weren't as bad as they sounded. Losing our top 2 Dmen in one game would sink this team. 5 goals is nice, especially since most of them were grind-them-out dirty goals. But our Achilles heel just got even worse.
Congrats to Pond on his first collegiate goal. Take the 2 points and get outta Amherst.
northeastern
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wow.. just ugly. well, we did put up 5..
as has been mentioned.. take the 2 pts & let's regroup!! Thank you CW.
as has been mentioned.. take the 2 pts & let's regroup!! Thank you CW.
Happy Husky
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
The game yeah,a win is a win,and I'm happy for them,but what about the injuries?
The game yeah,a win is a win,and I'm happy for them,but what about the injuries?
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
at least on Huntington Ave, i doubt many along Comm Ave would buy him a beer.
PP sucks. Takes the life out of this team everytime. What are the chances that NU has more PP goals in conference then shorthanded goals given up? Slim at this point.
Nice to see the lines finally get changed, about 3 weeks to late, but it finally got done. Stevens play has really fallen off, he managed to be on the ice for 0 goals scored by NU, and the last two scored by UMA. Gunn with the hat trick tonight, 3 penalties, one in each period, and if anyone was listening to the UMASS feed like I was, the NU feed was horrible tonight, you got to hear loud and clear why he got the misconduct.
Hopefully this is the game that gets Roy scoring again. Only his 3nd goal in 2014, two of them against UMASS and one against Harvard. We need him to produce against the big boys now. Sophomore slump? Mentally checked out before he goes pro? I am leaning towards lack of guys to get him the puck. I think he really misses Vinny S. out there who was willing to feed him the puck.
Good win, a big two points.
at least on Huntington Ave, i doubt many along Comm Ave would buy him a beer.
PP sucks. Takes the life out of this team everytime. What are the chances that NU has more PP goals in conference then shorthanded goals given up? Slim at this point.
Nice to see the lines finally get changed, about 3 weeks to late, but it finally got done. Stevens play has really fallen off, he managed to be on the ice for 0 goals scored by NU, and the last two scored by UMA. Gunn with the hat trick tonight, 3 penalties, one in each period, and if anyone was listening to the UMASS feed like I was, the NU feed was horrible tonight, you got to hear loud and clear why he got the misconduct.
Hopefully this is the game that gets Roy scoring again. Only his 3nd goal in 2014, two of them against UMASS and one against Harvard. We need him to produce against the big boys now. Sophomore slump? Mentally checked out before he goes pro? I am leaning towards lack of guys to get him the puck. I think he really misses Vinny S. out there who was willing to feed him the puck.
Good win, a big two points.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I'm beginning to wish we could decline the penalty like in football...The UMass radio broadcasters were quite startled by Gunn's outburst, it made me laugh at how apologetic they got. They were livid regarding the calls at the end of the game, with the shoulda-been-icing and then the ensuing faceoff in the UMass end. Was anyone watching the stream and coach shed some light on what happened?
Regarding Roy, I have a guy feeling he'll stay one more yet...nothing to base it off of, but I just feel like he is enjoying college, and now that the team has begun winning, I would think he'd like to continue with it. Again, no evidence to support the claim, but I think (and hope!) he will stay
I'm beginning to wish we could decline the penalty like in football...The UMass radio broadcasters were quite startled by Gunn's outburst, it made me laugh at how apologetic they got. They were livid regarding the calls at the end of the game, with the shoulda-been-icing and then the ensuing faceoff in the UMass end. Was anyone watching the stream and coach shed some light on what happened?
Regarding Roy, I have a guy feeling he'll stay one more yet...nothing to base it off of, but I just feel like he is enjoying college, and now that the team has begun winning, I would think he'd like to continue with it. Again, no evidence to support the claim, but I think (and hope!) he will stay
SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
The only silver lining to any potential injuries is Shecter potentially getting back in the lineup.
The only silver lining to any potential injuries is Shecter potentially getting back in the lineup.
walrus655321
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I was at the game, about 10 rows up on that end. The puck was rolling on its side and the UMass player very clearly was not skating 100% after it...it barely made the goal line and the official waved off icing, deeming (I would think) that the player should have touched it before the goal line.
I was at the game, about 10 rows up on that end. The puck was rolling on its side and the UMass player very clearly was not skating 100% after it...it barely made the goal line and the official waved off icing, deeming (I would think) that the player should have touched it before the goal line.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I disagree. With the mess that the defense is, if they do not think that Schecter is worth playing over DD or Fennell, that should tell you something. Its not like they are hiding him for some reason. More likely if both guys are out, they convert a forward back there for the games this weekend.
The first shorthanded goal they got last night, wow. Stevens seasons is really falling apart here these last few months. Yeah he scored Monday, but still. Its February 15, you should know what you want to do with the puck, instead you can tell he is thinking, loses it, and while trying to recover, BANG. Coaching, coaching, coaching.
Even on the first goal UMASS scored, credit the NU players for backchecking and covering the middle of the ice, but why is Szmatula trying to stick handle there out of trouble? Knock it down the ice. take an icing! Help the goalie out some! Coaching, coaching, coaching.
I disagree. With the mess that the defense is, if they do not think that Schecter is worth playing over DD or Fennell, that should tell you something. Its not like they are hiding him for some reason. More likely if both guys are out, they convert a forward back there for the games this weekend.
The first shorthanded goal they got last night, wow. Stevens seasons is really falling apart here these last few months. Yeah he scored Monday, but still. Its February 15, you should know what you want to do with the puck, instead you can tell he is thinking, loses it, and while trying to recover, BANG. Coaching, coaching, coaching.
Even on the first goal UMASS scored, credit the NU players for backchecking and covering the middle of the ice, but why is Szmatula trying to stick handle there out of trouble? Knock it down the ice. take an icing! Help the goalie out some! Coaching, coaching, coaching.
SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Just like why they kept Witt behind Rawlings, right? For three years...
Schecter can actually skate, this was evidenced vs. BC when he was by far the best defenseman out there.
Just like why they kept Witt behind Rawlings, right? For three years...
Schecter can actually skate, this was evidenced vs. BC when he was by far the best defenseman out there.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
They are not the only coaching staff to make that decision though. Cronin did the same thing. Plus Witt was hurt all of last year. And in everyone's defense, Witt was not ready yet based on how he played when he was in there the previous two seasons. Lets all remember, there was ZERO evidence that we had this type of goaltender on the bench.
I am actually giving JM a pass on not playing Witt before.
As for skating, Sauce can skate, but is clueless on how to play the position. Just because you can skate, does not mean you should be in there.
They are not the only coaching staff to make that decision though. Cronin did the same thing. Plus Witt was hurt all of last year. And in everyone's defense, Witt was not ready yet based on how he played when he was in there the previous two seasons. Lets all remember, there was ZERO evidence that we had this type of goaltender on the bench.
I am actually giving JM a pass on not playing Witt before.
As for skating, Sauce can skate, but is clueless on how to play the position. Just because you can skate, does not mean you should be in there.
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