BCeagle
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
They even had a 5 minute major and they couldn't take full advantage of it.
They even had a 5 minute major and they couldn't take full advantage of it.
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Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Well, technically, they did score a goal while the 5 minute major was in effect. But it was during the 4 on 4 part after NU took a penalty.
Well, technically, they did score a goal while the 5 minute major was in effect. But it was during the 4 on 4 part after NU took a penalty.
Carmine Scarpaglia
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Ahahahahahhaa. We're in November. The games are meaningless. I know you don't know that because NU hasn't played in a meaningful game in the last 20+ years, or ever maybe (oooooohhhh first round game vs. Cornell!!!!) but hopefully you are aware of what BC has done in the past 15 years under York and can figure out why BC fans can tell you what a meaningful game is. In the meantime, you enjoy your NU Fanboy sour grapes and go check out the box score from that Wisconsin game that BC DIDN'T dominate.
See you guys in March... well probably not but I just felt like saying that. HAHAHAAH.
edit - RossiRules posts a reasonable/sober post and this guy comes and ruins everything. Go figure.
Ahahahahahhaa. We're in November. The games are meaningless. I know you don't know that because NU hasn't played in a meaningful game in the last 20+ years, or ever maybe (oooooohhhh first round game vs. Cornell!!!!) but hopefully you are aware of what BC has done in the past 15 years under York and can figure out why BC fans can tell you what a meaningful game is. In the meantime, you enjoy your NU Fanboy sour grapes and go check out the box score from that Wisconsin game that BC DIDN'T dominate.
See you guys in March... well probably not but I just felt like saying that. HAHAHAAH.
edit - RossiRules posts a reasonable/sober post and this guy comes and ruins everything. Go figure.
MechE Husky
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northeastern
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That was an intentional play.. 1 out of 50 odd work.. it worked beautifully tonight.. right off Witt's skate back & in.. Witt will learn from this as well.
Well.. we have a team.. we'll get it together.
BCeagle
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Yeah, I realize that, but I meant they should have scored more than 1 goal at will. Because of that, BC was able to close the gap and tie it before winning in OT. Obviously another NU goal would have done it at 4-1 instead of 3-1 lead.
Ferriero getting himself suspended didn't help either when his team needed him. He could have been the difference but too undisciplined. He did BC a favor by not choosing BC and going to NU.
Yeah, I realize that, but I meant they should have scored more than 1 goal at will. Because of that, BC was able to close the gap and tie it before winning in OT. Obviously another NU goal would have done it at 4-1 instead of 3-1 lead.
Ferriero getting himself suspended didn't help either when his team needed him. He could have been the difference but too undisciplined. He did BC a favor by not choosing BC and going to NU.
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Motorboaters
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I have to agree with you on Pond, he looks much better out there than I expected based upon his previous stats. He skates and plays hard at both ends of the ice which is not what I can say for some of the other players it seems. It reminds me of the movie "Mystery, Alaska" when Burt Reynolds is chastising his kid for coasting into the defensive zone and concentrating solely on offense.
The defense was atrocious tonight and the only reason they didn't lose this game 10-3 was because of Witt. I can't recall how many times the BC forwards were able to blow past the d'men to the outside and come in right in front of the goal. Also, how many shorties can you give up and expect to win? Finally, whats up with all the line combinations over the first part of the season? How do the coaches expect these guys to develop any chemistry with other players if they are switching up their linemates night in and night out? The line combinations from the last few weeks were working fine, you do not have to change up your line pairings just because you lose a game.
Roy had an assist tonight on Szmatula's goal. He stole the puck and set him up beautifully. You are right, that he was manhandled all weekend and the refs looked the other way. I'm not at all sure that he's completely healthy.
OTOH, if Johnny Goo fell down the nearest NU player was in real danger of drawing two minutes. Goo's goal looked like it was meant to be a centering pass. With all the talent BC has, they really don't need that kind of puck luck.
You are right about the breakaway opportunities, especially Reed's I suspect that he didn't realize that he had as much time to deke as he did. He had time to text Roy to ask him what to do!
It's notable that Szmats has 13 points and has made the scoresheet in every game so far. Good thing JM forced him to honor his LOI. Anybody know the NU record for consecutive games with at least one point?
Props to Jerry Keefe for finding Tanner Pond. Stats 0f 20-21-41 over three seasons in the USHL give no clue as to how well this kid can play. He's a role player tight now, centering the fourth line. If he keeps developing, he'll play a much bigger role by the time he's an upperclassman.
I have to agree with you on Pond, he looks much better out there than I expected based upon his previous stats. He skates and plays hard at both ends of the ice which is not what I can say for some of the other players it seems. It reminds me of the movie "Mystery, Alaska" when Burt Reynolds is chastising his kid for coasting into the defensive zone and concentrating solely on offense.
The defense was atrocious tonight and the only reason they didn't lose this game 10-3 was because of Witt. I can't recall how many times the BC forwards were able to blow past the d'men to the outside and come in right in front of the goal. Also, how many shorties can you give up and expect to win? Finally, whats up with all the line combinations over the first part of the season? How do the coaches expect these guys to develop any chemistry with other players if they are switching up their linemates night in and night out? The line combinations from the last few weeks were working fine, you do not have to change up your line pairings just because you lose a game.
CollegeHockeyRinkReport
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Game Recap
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/201...udreau-ryan-fitzgerald-kevin-roy-northeastern
Jim Madigan also talked about his frustration with the power play this weekend.
He thought Clay Witt played well.
Said he liked the freshmen's pace and how the reacted.
Game Recap
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/201...udreau-ryan-fitzgerald-kevin-roy-northeastern
Jim Madigan also talked about his frustration with the power play this weekend.
He thought Clay Witt played well.
Said he liked the freshmen's pace and how the reacted.
Thiessen'sBetter
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
He didn't play well, but give BC credit for hitting him and taking away his time and space. Something that was lost on Madigan when telling his team how to play JG. All he has to do is look at how Cronin used to play Gerbe. He played him physical, got him of his game and as a result Gerbe had 1 goal in his career against NU.
He didn't play well, but give BC credit for hitting him and taking away his time and space. Something that was lost on Madigan when telling his team how to play JG. All he has to do is look at how Cronin used to play Gerbe. He played him physical, got him of his game and as a result Gerbe had 1 goal in his career against NU.
NU Speed Racer
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
So you would have preferred to lay off the gas and hug a 2 goal lead against one of the best teams in the nation? And to do it, you want us to switch from the power play style that we practice nonstop every week and has netted us 11 goals. And then you want to switch to a traditional box style PP, which actually has less players near the point that a traditional umbrella style.
Should we not shoot too? If we just pass it around for 2 minutes, it eats up the clock and there's less likely of a shorthanded break. Maybe we should bring the puck into the zone, wait for a player to approach, then skate backwards back to our own goal and reset. It would eat up 30+ seconds and not a pass would be needed.
Do you yell at the Pats offense for being up two scores and they pass it? "They should take a knee, it kills 40 seconds."
The 2nd BC goal is unfortunate and should never have happened, but I would have been so incredibly mad at Madigan if he decided to sit on the puck or changed a working style of PP. But we were still up a goal with only minutes left. It was a fluke goal caused by an average goalie that lost our lead.
If we scored on that PP to make it 4-1, you'd be on here praising Madigan for not taking the foot off the gas and going for the kill.
So you would have preferred to lay off the gas and hug a 2 goal lead against one of the best teams in the nation? And to do it, you want us to switch from the power play style that we practice nonstop every week and has netted us 11 goals. And then you want to switch to a traditional box style PP, which actually has less players near the point that a traditional umbrella style.
Should we not shoot too? If we just pass it around for 2 minutes, it eats up the clock and there's less likely of a shorthanded break. Maybe we should bring the puck into the zone, wait for a player to approach, then skate backwards back to our own goal and reset. It would eat up 30+ seconds and not a pass would be needed.
Do you yell at the Pats offense for being up two scores and they pass it? "They should take a knee, it kills 40 seconds."
The 2nd BC goal is unfortunate and should never have happened, but I would have been so incredibly mad at Madigan if he decided to sit on the puck or changed a working style of PP. But we were still up a goal with only minutes left. It was a fluke goal caused by an average goalie that lost our lead.
If we scored on that PP to make it 4-1, you'd be on here praising Madigan for not taking the foot off the gas and going for the kill.
sterlippo1
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
absolutely agree. He's changing up a bit because the wraparounds are expected. He's also not doing the Ferris St thing much anymore for the same reason
wow, ok
correct, BC is not a dominant team, not yet anyway.
absolutely agree. He's changing up a bit because the wraparounds are expected. He's also not doing the Ferris St thing much anymore for the same reason
wow, ok
correct, BC is not a dominant team, not yet anyway.
SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
You're nuts. One bad goal vs. countless game-saving saves. Witt is the starter, period. Aside from one blip every goal this weekend was either a breakaway or odd man rush given up by the defense.
Sucks to get no points but this team doesn't look like the "clear cut" favorite for 11th in HEA. Defense needs work though. BC got to the net routinely all weekend.
You're nuts. One bad goal vs. countless game-saving saves. Witt is the starter, period. Aside from one blip every goal this weekend was either a breakaway or odd man rush given up by the defense.
Sucks to get no points but this team doesn't look like the "clear cut" favorite for 11th in HEA. Defense needs work though. BC got to the net routinely all weekend.
SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Officiating was fine all weekend. NU just let one get away last night. Our powerplay killed us both nights.
Roy had an assist tonight on Szmatula's goal. He stole the puck and set him up beautifully. You are right, that he was manhandled all weekend and the refs looked the other way. I'm not at all sure that he's completely healthy.
OTOH, if Johnny Goo fell down the nearest NU player was in real danger of drawing two minutes. Goo's goal looked like it was meant to be a centering pass. With all the talent BC has, they really don't need that kind of puck luck.
You are right about the breakaway opportunities, especially Reed's I suspect that he didn't realize that he had as much time to deke as he did. He had time to text Roy to ask him what to do!
It's notable that Szmats has 13 points and has made the scoresheet in every game so far. Good thing JM forced him to honor his LOI. Anybody know the NU record for consecutive games with at least one point?
Props to Jerry Keefe for finding Tanner Pond. Stats 0f 20-21-41 over three seasons in the USHL give no clue as to how well this kid can play. He's a role player tight now, centering the fourth line. If he keeps developing, he'll play a much bigger role by the time he's an upperclassman.
Officiating was fine all weekend. NU just let one get away last night. Our powerplay killed us both nights.
Split-N
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Agree that the officiating was fine. Other than one phantom trip call on Friday night, the refs did a pretty good job overall. And speaking of officiating, I'm noticing some fresh, young blood has been added to the staff and that, as a group, they seem to be more into the flow of games and less prone to call the "ticky-tack" penalty. I guess Dan Schachte (the new head of officials) is making his presence felt.
Also agree that the primary reason NU lost on both nights was the PP. It's not so much a matter of not scoring. It's giving up shorties. You can't allow that against a team like BC and expect to win. Beyond that, the defense got torched repeatedly on both nights. Of the eight BC goals scored over the weekend, at least five (probably six) were directly attributable to defensive screw-ups (and not just by defensemen). Clay Witt had one Chris Rawlings moment at the worst possible time. But he deserved better. No way am I putting either loss on him.
Bottom line: This team played well in a road loss on Friday but literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory on Saturday. We'll know a lot more about the character of this team by the way they do (or don't) recover in the next week or two.
Agree that the officiating was fine. Other than one phantom trip call on Friday night, the refs did a pretty good job overall. And speaking of officiating, I'm noticing some fresh, young blood has been added to the staff and that, as a group, they seem to be more into the flow of games and less prone to call the "ticky-tack" penalty. I guess Dan Schachte (the new head of officials) is making his presence felt.
Also agree that the primary reason NU lost on both nights was the PP. It's not so much a matter of not scoring. It's giving up shorties. You can't allow that against a team like BC and expect to win. Beyond that, the defense got torched repeatedly on both nights. Of the eight BC goals scored over the weekend, at least five (probably six) were directly attributable to defensive screw-ups (and not just by defensemen). Clay Witt had one Chris Rawlings moment at the worst possible time. But he deserved better. No way am I putting either loss on him.
Bottom line: This team played well in a road loss on Friday but literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory on Saturday. We'll know a lot more about the character of this team by the way they do (or don't) recover in the next week or two.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
That is not what I said at all. Did you watch either of the games this weekend? The PP was a huge issue, even JM said so afterwards. We gave up a shorty the night before with that same PP. We had given up multiple chances, probably more chances for BC on our PP then we got all game. As for what they had done in the past this season with it, was meaningless. They played 5 straight exhibition games to start the year, prior to SLU last weekend. That stat is meaningless to me.
So yeah, change it up. Are you saying that these kids cannot figure out how to play with two point men instead of one? You know the way they probably have played it their entire careers until they got here? Nobody said take the foot off the pedal. Please, score on the power play, but you cannot give up a goal there either. I rather they let the guys play catch with it for two minutes and run clock their then give up a shorthanded goal, which they did.
The third goal was unfortunate, but the second was a result from a total fail on a coaching staff that stuck with a system that was not working over an entire weekend.
And yeah, if I took the other team to cover playing the Pats, I root for them to take a knee.
That is not what I said at all. Did you watch either of the games this weekend? The PP was a huge issue, even JM said so afterwards. We gave up a shorty the night before with that same PP. We had given up multiple chances, probably more chances for BC on our PP then we got all game. As for what they had done in the past this season with it, was meaningless. They played 5 straight exhibition games to start the year, prior to SLU last weekend. That stat is meaningless to me.
So yeah, change it up. Are you saying that these kids cannot figure out how to play with two point men instead of one? You know the way they probably have played it their entire careers until they got here? Nobody said take the foot off the pedal. Please, score on the power play, but you cannot give up a goal there either. I rather they let the guys play catch with it for two minutes and run clock their then give up a shorthanded goal, which they did.
The third goal was unfortunate, but the second was a result from a total fail on a coaching staff that stuck with a system that was not working over an entire weekend.
And yeah, if I took the other team to cover playing the Pats, I root for them to take a knee.
Alum in 51
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Sometimes I feel as if I were stranded alone on a desert island with only one movie to watch. I watch the movie everyday. I watch the movie every night. I have seen the movie so many times, I can recite each line verbatim. I know every mark the actors must hit. I know every facial expression, every twitch, and every smirk.
Still, I watch the movie without fail.
Often I muse over how the director might have done something different, or how the actors might have otherwise played their roles.
Then one day a box washes up on the beach. I open it up. Inside is a brand new movie. I begin to watch it.
It is a remake of that movie. New actors. New director. New producer. Same plot. Shot for shot remake.
Then I realize it isn't a movie. It's just NU playing BC again.
And again.
And again.
And...
Sometimes I feel as if I were stranded alone on a desert island with only one movie to watch. I watch the movie everyday. I watch the movie every night. I have seen the movie so many times, I can recite each line verbatim. I know every mark the actors must hit. I know every facial expression, every twitch, and every smirk.
Still, I watch the movie without fail.
Often I muse over how the director might have done something different, or how the actors might have otherwise played their roles.
Then one day a box washes up on the beach. I open it up. Inside is a brand new movie. I begin to watch it.
It is a remake of that movie. New actors. New director. New producer. Same plot. Shot for shot remake.
Then I realize it isn't a movie. It's just NU playing BC again.
And again.
And again.
And...
NU Speed Racer
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I don't think you understand how an umbrella power play works. There are 3 players by the blue line. Not 1. So the power play they've been using and practice every day would be the best power play to use when up two goals in your mind.
You're point would make sense by talking about the aggressiveness of the power play. As you said you'd rather let them play catch with it for two minutes. Again the umbrella power play would be best, since you have three players by the blue line and they typically will have two options to pass to without getting in a defensive shooting lane. A standard box you usually have one good passing option without going deep into the zone and towards more defenders.
I would like to thank you for proving my point when you say pass it around. That is taking the foot off the pedal. You don't go on the power play looking to play defensively. You also can't really play to prevent a short handed break. With more passing, you give more opportunity to allow for the defense to make a diving poke, or get into a passing lane to intercept.
It is much harder to get a shorthanded breakaway when you are getting the puck deep in the zone and the only option for the defense is to look for the dump. If then they can find a guy with a pass up the middle while he's breaking down ice, then you have a problem with the defense and the power play. But that didn't happen.
I don't think you understand how an umbrella power play works. There are 3 players by the blue line. Not 1. So the power play they've been using and practice every day would be the best power play to use when up two goals in your mind.
You're point would make sense by talking about the aggressiveness of the power play. As you said you'd rather let them play catch with it for two minutes. Again the umbrella power play would be best, since you have three players by the blue line and they typically will have two options to pass to without getting in a defensive shooting lane. A standard box you usually have one good passing option without going deep into the zone and towards more defenders.
I would like to thank you for proving my point when you say pass it around. That is taking the foot off the pedal. You don't go on the power play looking to play defensively. You also can't really play to prevent a short handed break. With more passing, you give more opportunity to allow for the defense to make a diving poke, or get into a passing lane to intercept.
It is much harder to get a shorthanded breakaway when you are getting the puck deep in the zone and the only option for the defense is to look for the dump. If then they can find a guy with a pass up the middle while he's breaking down ice, then you have a problem with the defense and the power play. But that didn't happen.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
based on what you just said,I do not think you have watched a single game yet this year. How many players did NU have on the Blue Line when BC scored? 1. BC was looking to breakout whatever side of the ice that guy on the blue line was not. You have two guys manning the point, they are not going to look to breakout the way they did all weekend long.
based on what you just said,I do not think you have watched a single game yet this year. How many players did NU have on the Blue Line when BC scored? 1. BC was looking to breakout whatever side of the ice that guy on the blue line was not. You have two guys manning the point, they are not going to look to breakout the way they did all weekend long.
DieHardDog
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Trolls gonna troll. NU posters - take a deep breath and reset for next weekend; don't let these guys get under your skin.
PP needs a lot of work - it was fine for the first few cupcake games but giving up shorthanded opportunities isn't going to cut it in conference play. I personally hate going with 5 o-men. Shots on goal need to be a priority. If you look at the game sheets one big difference that stands out is exactly that. Out-shot in every game since HC. IMO things were clicking because the team was peppering the net at every given opportunity. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" and you sure as hell don't score any goals. I realize that we're playing better quality teams, but shots are shots. The defense is what it is - inexperienced, slow and not deep at all. This is something the coaches need to address in the near future and adapt to. OTOH, one big positive that I've seen so far is the play of Witt. The kid's been great, keeping us in both games over the weekend. He's clearly making more important saves than giving up bad goals. Who thought Goo-dro was going to stuff that one short-side instead of going around the net? Not me. This isn't an 11th place team and it's sure as hell not a top 4 team. Hopefully the issues are addressed and worked on, everybody stays healthy and we see some in-conference wins. Regardless of how the team does, Northeastern still has the greatest fans and arena in the world - 2 things that bc will never have.
Trolls gonna troll. NU posters - take a deep breath and reset for next weekend; don't let these guys get under your skin.
PP needs a lot of work - it was fine for the first few cupcake games but giving up shorthanded opportunities isn't going to cut it in conference play. I personally hate going with 5 o-men. Shots on goal need to be a priority. If you look at the game sheets one big difference that stands out is exactly that. Out-shot in every game since HC. IMO things were clicking because the team was peppering the net at every given opportunity. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" and you sure as hell don't score any goals. I realize that we're playing better quality teams, but shots are shots. The defense is what it is - inexperienced, slow and not deep at all. This is something the coaches need to address in the near future and adapt to. OTOH, one big positive that I've seen so far is the play of Witt. The kid's been great, keeping us in both games over the weekend. He's clearly making more important saves than giving up bad goals. Who thought Goo-dro was going to stuff that one short-side instead of going around the net? Not me. This isn't an 11th place team and it's sure as hell not a top 4 team. Hopefully the issues are addressed and worked on, everybody stays healthy and we see some in-conference wins. Regardless of how the team does, Northeastern still has the greatest fans and arena in the world - 2 things that bc will never have.
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NU Speed Racer
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I've seen all but the road HC game. I was at both STL games.... Must have missed you there.
The umbrella system has 1 guy at the point and two guys at the top of the circle. Hence three guys close to the blueline.
The box system has 2 guys at the point and three guys around the goal. Hence two guys close to the blueline.
Do you understand it now?
I've seen all but the road HC game. I was at both STL games.... Must have missed you there.
The umbrella system has 1 guy at the point and two guys at the top of the circle. Hence three guys close to the blueline.
The box system has 2 guys at the point and three guys around the goal. Hence two guys close to the blueline.
Do you understand it now?
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