North Star College Cup - MN, UMD, MSU, SCSU

[BigM3810]

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When the gophers moved to the B1G administration said they required 26 home games in order to profit for the season. Initially they were requesting many other non-conference teams (except ND and DU) to commit to a 2 series at UofM and 1 series away contract. Does anyone know if this has changed?

I thought it went if you werent playing in the NSCC the Gophers played 2 at your place. If they didn't play you on Friday of the NSCC you would play 2 at our place.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Gopher fans know a good dive when they see one. I saw Rau teaching Gorg the finer points of flopping at one of the intermissions last year. I do feel bad the refs jobbed you the last two times you played UMD, but you wouldn't expect the number one team in the nation to fall apart after one bad call.

One? You're cute.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I thought it went if you werent playing in the NSCC the Gophers played 2 at your place. If they didn't play you on Friday of the NSCC you would play 2 at our place.

I know the highlighted is true. I didn't know about the second part.

 

[BigM3810]

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I know the highlighted is true. I didn't know about the second part.

Was just going off how this seasons schedule was set up. Played Cloud on Friday night so no series with them, UMD and Kato both came to our place. Bemidji was out so we went up there for 2

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Was just going off how this seasons schedule was set up. Played Cloud on Friday night so no series with them, UMD and Kato both came to our place. Bemidji was out so we went up there for 2

It definitely checks out. I just never put the two events together.

 

[DtownDogs]

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Gopher fans know a good dive when they see one. I saw Rau teaching Gorg the finer points of flopping at one of the intermissions last year. I do feel bad the refs jobbed you the last two times you played UMD, but you wouldn't expect the number one team in the nation to fall apart after one bad call.

Watching the game live I couldn't tell if the initial point of contact was the head on the hit on Farley. It was obviously interference and Farley was put in a vulnerable position and the hit could have easily been avoided. Regardless of the point of contact, I think this was deserving of the 5 min and game. Thoughts?

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I wonder if they would ever do a king of the mountain type of tournament. You have the four non-winners from last year play it out in a single bracket to meet the winner from last year in the final.

It's a bad idea (I think) but might be interesting. Or what about an old school Final Five type bracket? That might fly if the Big Ten ever expands and requires the Goofs to play more conference games. Seed based on PWR or RPI.

 

[Pump It Up]

wait home and homes? or 2 in Cloud in 2014, 2 in Minny in 2105 and then 2 more in Minny in 2016&17?

My recollection is this:

2014-2015: SCSU sits out of the NSCC. Then, a home and home vs. Minnesota.

2015-2016: SCSU plays the afternoon game of the NSCC against one of the teams not named Minnesota. Then, another home and home series against Minnesota.

2016-2017: SCSU plays the afternoon game of the NSCC against one of the teams not named Minnesota. Then, a road series at Mariucci.

So over the next 3 years we play Minnesota 6 times in regular season games, sans any potential NSCC matchups. 2 games in St. Cloud and 4 in Minneapolis. I believe SCSU preferred one game at home against Minnesota for 2 years instead of just one home series next year.

 

[DtownDogs]

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I don't know about NCCS opponents, I just heard in general that UofM administration told basically every opponent that wasn't an automatic sell out that if they were to play regular season games against the gophs home series were to be 2:1.

 

[DtownDogs]

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My recollection is this:

2014-2015: SCSU sits out of the NSCC and a home and home vs. Minnesota.

2015-2016: SCSU plays the afternoon game of the NSCC against one of the teams not named Minnesota. Then, another home and home series against Minnesota.

2016-2017: SCSU plays the afternoon game of the NSCC against one of the teams not named Minnesota. Then, a road series at Mariucci.

So over the next 3 years we play Minnesota 6 times in regular season series. 2 games in St. Cloud and 4 in Minneapolis. I believe SCSU preferred one game at home against Minnesota for 2 years instead of just one home series next year.

You can probably expect a 1/3 revenue split between the programs as well.

 

[DropPass]

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Watching the game live I couldn't tell if the initial point of contact was the head on the hit on Farley. It was obviously interference and Farley was put in a vulnerable position and the hit could have easily been avoided. Regardless of the point of contact, I think this was deserving of the 5 min and game. Thoughts?

It could go either way. Looking at the replay in slow motion, it is probably only a 2 for interference. One the ice, the ref doesn't have that option. He might be turning to look at the puck that was now half way across the ice. All he sees is a guy getting lit up. That hit will get called 8 out of ten times.

Don't forget UMD got a minor at the same time, and another minor to start the 3rd. UMTC had a power play during that major.

I assume most of the chirping is because Johnson got caught up on some bad ice and Boyd shoved him.

 

[DtownDogs]

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Fun fact, if you are not D-1 in all programs you have to pay to play in the frozen four.

 

[BigM3810]

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My recollection is this:

2014-2015: SCSU sits out of the NSCC. Then, a home and home vs. Minnesota.

2015-2016: SCSU plays the afternoon game of the NSCC against one of the teams not named Minnesota. Then, another home and home series against Minnesota.

2016-2017: SCSU plays the afternoon game of the NSCC against one of the teams not named Minnesota. Then, a road series at Mariucci.

So over the next 3 years we play Minnesota 6 times in regular season games, sans any potential NSCC matchups. 2 games in St. Cloud and 4 in Minneapolis. I believe SCSU preferred one game at home against Minnesota for 2 years instead of just one home series next year.

That makes sense, I wonder if Mankato will do the same thing with the home and homes?

 

[DtownDogs]

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It could go either way. Looking at the replay in slow motion, it is probably only a 2 for interference. One the ice, the ref doesn't have that option. He might be turning to look at the puck that was now half way across the ice. All he sees is a guy getting lit up. That hit will get called 8 out of ten times.

Don't forget UMD got a minor at the same time, and another minor to start the 3rd. UMTC had a power play during that major.

I assume most of the chirping is because Johnson got caught up on some bad ice and Boyd shoved him.

I'm curious to everyone's thought on that Farley hit in general. Even if it wasn't head contact it was an interference and there was a real possibility for Farley to be injured on the play. I know he ended up being fine, but according to current rules you an hit a guy clean without the puck and toss him into next week without a major penalty. Should there be a major for interference that could be avoided?

 

[Koho]

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I'm curious to everyone's thought on that Farley hit in general. Even if it wasn't head contact it was an interference and there was a real possibility for Farley to be injured on the play. I know he ended up being fine, but according to current rules you an hit a guy clean without the puck and toss him into next week without a major penalty. Should there be a major for interference that could be avoided?

Thought it was a 2 minute interference. A player was trying to pass the puck to Farley and Farley could have gotten it, and that was why Marshall was lining him up. The puck missed and Marshall didn't lay off, although I am sure he was expecting Harley to hit back too. That is why I would go with 2. Not the same as a guy hitting a player to prevent him from even getting to the puck, or that is nowhere near the puck. As far as head contact, I think the intent of that penalty isn't to call one like that where it isn't easy to see the contact at full speed and clearly wasn't what Marshall was trying to do, as there are hits with that much contact to the head that are regularly not called majors. And the call on the ice was head contact, so that is what should be debated. But there were a lot of calls both ways either missed or called that should have been. Too bad, because it took a little away from the game.

 

[CDOUG]

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That's incorrect. Condon was in the crease clearly before that puck entered the cease. In addition, he made contact with Crandall as the shot was being taken but before the puck enter the cease. Watch the replay it is very clear.

LOL

Condon followed the puck to the crease. Totally legal.

Also, any complaints about the structure of this tournament are laughable. It's set up the only way it can be done. The schedule, the shootout, etc.

 

[DropPass]

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You can get a major for interference, also for charging (bunch of other stuff too, not related to that hit).

That hit last night isn't 5 for either of those reasons. It got called because of the perceived contact to the head.

 

[Koho]

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That's incorrect. Condon was in the crease clearly before that puck entered the cease. In addition, he made contact with Crandall as the shot was being taken but before the puck enter the cease. Watch the replay it is very clear.

My understanding of the rule is that it is now a judgement call on whether the player interfered with the goalie's ability to make the save (ie if he weren't there, would it have been saved). That did not appear to be the case here so declared a goal.

 

[Dude Love]

One? You're cute.

That whole weekend was full of bad calls.

 

[DtownDogs]

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You can get a major for interference, also for charging (bunch of other stuff too, not related to that hit).

That hit last night isn't 5 for either of those reasons. It got called because of the perceived contact to the head.

I didn't know you could get a five for interference. Last rule book I own is dated 07-08 though.