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NFL 2009 Thread #3: The Quest for Perfection

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Handyman said:
Why are the Jets guaranteed to lose...their D is pretty sick and I would never count them out.
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The Jets try to win by staying close and making plays late to win.

A close game in Indianapolis means 27 pass interference calls on Rivas in the 4th quarter as Indy pulls away 35-17 late.
 
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bronconick said:
The Jets try to win by staying close and making plays late to win.

A close game in Indianapolis means 27 pass interference calls on Rivas in the 4th quarter as Indy pulls away 35-17 late.
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Right...because the Jets cant beat any good teams...like the chargers who had won 10 in a row and were the hottest team in football.

Thanks for reminding me...
 
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Handyman said:
Why are the Jets guaranteed to lose...their D is pretty sick and I would never count them out.
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No one is guaranteed to win or lose but if I was a betting man, it would be on Peytons team, in Peytons house.
 
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And the Colts can play a little bit of defense, too.
 
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Hammer said:
And the Colts can play a little bit of defense, too.
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They can...I didnt say the Jets would win, just dont think it is as big a lock as some people seem to. I think the game could go either way that is all I am saying.
 
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Handyman said:
Why are the Jets guaranteed to lose...their D is pretty sick and I would never count them out.
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Because there's no way - NO WAY - that a feisty Jets team could ever beat a Colts team with a legendary quarterback in a championship game.
 
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I just think the Colts are the better team, and I think they'll pick up where they left off (when they had their starters in).
 
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There is a couple reasons I'd give Indy the nod in their match-up with the Jets.

1) They are at home
2) Peyton Manning
3) They just played and beat this exact team last week (Ravens)

And to be complete, here are the reasons I'd give the Saints the edge in their game with the Vikings.

1) They are at home, Vikings were .500 road team.
2) Saints are healthy, Vikings have a few missing or hurt guys (Henderson, Edwards, etc.)
3) Peterson/Taylor not the same running threat they were earlier this year.

Obviously any team can win in a 1-game situation. So I don't think there is any lock wins.
 
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Handyman said:
They can...I didnt say the Jets would win, just dont think it is as big a lock as some people seem to. I think the game could go either way that is all I am saying.
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we've certainly seen some unlikely teams make it to the SB. That was Arizona in the SB last year so, to your point, anything can happen. We've also seen young QB's go on short streaks that come to a halt in ugly fashion. The Jets can play good D and maybe they will keep it close but i won't be surprised to see Sanchez look like a rookie and the refs call every close play in the secondary to Peyton's benefit...if the Jets get behind early it could get ugly.

BUT, I'd hate to see Indy win the SB so I'll be pulling for the Jets. If there was ever a time to tell your DL that you are willing to take the 15 yards for the late hit, this would be the game. I'd go after Manning and try to hit him every play. Not wishing an injury, just don't let him stand back there all day with no worries.
 
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Anything can happen. Only one overrated (by my opinion rather than any expert's) team left in the playoffs. That would be the Jets, but hey, I think they may not be that overrated after all.

The Cards were overrated, but so were the Packers and one of them had to win. So, they got stomped.

The Cowboys were overrated and they got stomped. And a gratifying stomping it was. Crying Romo? Has Jerry Jones punched someone yet? That'll take the arrogance down a notch or three.

Now the Saints stomp the Queenies and the Colts destroy the Jets and then it will be anyone's guess, but I'll take the safe bet and say Colts.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
There is a couple reasons I'd give Indy the nod in their match-up with the Jets.

1) They are at home
2) Peyton Manning
3) They just played and beat this exact team last week (Ravens)
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Perhaps this is covered under your point #2, but I don't think you beat the Colts by keeping it close and hoping for an opportunity at the end. I can't find any stats, but the number of points Peyton has put up in the last 2 minutes of a half is ridiculous - over 40 game-winning drives in the 4th quarter, etc. The Jets need to figure out how to be ahead by at least 2 scores with 10 minutes remaining to have a decent shot at the win. If it's a 1-score game with 10 minutes left, the smart money is on the Colts every time.

As your point #3 mentions, that's what the Ravens did this week - hung around in the first half, and then before they knew it, Peyton put up 14 points in the last 2 minutes of the first half to put the game away.

Edit to add: Out of nerd curiosity, I checked. Ignoring the two "pulled starter" games this year, over the last 2 seasons, the Colts are 9-4 when losing with 10 minutes to go. The only game where they were losing by more than 10 points was to Green Bay last year - losing by 20 and they lost. So when they're losing by less than 10 points with 10 minutes to go, they are 9-3 over the last 2 seasons. That's pretty incredible - how many teams have gone .750 over the last two seasons, period?
 
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LynahFan said:
Edit to add: Out of nerd curiosity, I checked. Ignoring the two "pulled starter" games this year, over the last 2 seasons, the Colts are 9-4 when losing with 10 minutes to go. The only game where they were losing by more than 10 points was to Green Bay last year - losing by 20 and they lost. So when they're losing by less than 10 points with 10 minutes to go, they are 9-3 over the last 2 seasons. That's pretty incredible - how many teams have gone .750 over the last two seasons, period?
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Which is why Belicheck went for it on 4th an 2 against the Colts. Give the ball to Peyton and he can move it down the field. If the Jets can keep Peyton off the field, they can win. I don't think their offense is that good so Indy wins. The other choice is to get to Peyton, haven't seen a team do it yet so....
 
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The whole Vikings v Brookings thing is interesting to me in that it brings up a lot of "so stop em" responses. Sure it is the NFL and they are getting paid, they are adults etc. but I don't agree with scoring in a lopsided game just to run up the score. If they could have stopped them then it wouldn't have been lopsided.

Mind you, I thoroughly enjoyed watching the Cowboys get soundly beaten. But, unless there is a score to settle I don't see why the Vikings go for the TD that late. If there is bad blood, or a previous score to settle then I understand that sometimes those things are the way to address it.

Steal a base in the 8th up by 6 runs and your next batter takes one in the ribs. That makes sense to me. Throw it at his head and we have a new problem. Cheap shot our QB in a lopsided game and we'll score one more TD for good measure. If we go for two I understand you trying to break our kicker's leg on the ensuing kickoff.

But, if the game is not in question and one side isn't doing anything 'wrong' (and I'm not sure how wrong calling time outs really is - annoying yes, but not really a reason to do something for retribution) then go through the motions, run down the clock and take the win.

I won't use the word class, as it is beaten to death already but the "so stop em" response doesn't do it for me...everybody should be trying to get through the last 2 minutes without an injury, not trying to stop a team from scoring in a blowout.
 
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