New WCHA is dead

[SJHovey]

Re: New WCHA is dead

You don’t think BGSU had their act together in the ‘80s when they had Jerry York behind the bench and were going to NCAA’s basically every year, including winning it all in ‘84 and one or two additional Frozen Four appearances??

I think BG only made the Frozen Four one time in the '80's, the year they won the championship.

 

[altazo]

I think BG only made the Frozen Four one time in the '80's, the year they won the championship.

You are correct. They did reach the FF in 1978 as well, along with NCAA bids in 77, 78, 79, 82, 84, 87, 88, 89, and 1990.

 

[gfmorris]

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personally i think UAH will end up being the 8th team.

who else is out there?

ASU? highly doubt that... they are just fine as an independent...

the AK teams will become one... UAF, the flagship institution.

but the dream pick, for a tech fan, would be UMD.

UAH i think would be a better fit for AHA...

but again, i think it will end up being the 8th team.

The CCHA proved that leagues don't mind rejecting UAH to stay at an even number.

GFM

 

[gfmorris]

Re: New WCHA is dead

You don’t think BGSU had their act together in the ‘80s when they had Jerry York behind the bench and were going to NCAA’s basically every year, including winning it all in ‘84 and one or two additional Frozen Four appearances??

Given that Doug Ross played for BG under Mason, and given that I'm over 40 and care about college hockey history, of course not. I was making a very specific point: lumping UAH — a long-time D-I program — in with the SLUs and UICs of the world is specious baloney. Does UAH come close to BG in terms of D-I success? Absolutely, positively not. But we're not a Johnny-come-lately. Kill D-II and force us to play up? UAH has done it — twice. But I was specifically referring to where BG was in its history in relation to all of the other schools mentioned by the previous poster(s). BG had fallen much farther, but it's not like they're the only person who'd been running a D-I program for a hot second.

GFM

 

[aparch]

The CCHA proved that leagues don't mind rejecting UAH to stay at an even number.

GFM

The Tom Anastos lead CCHA also told UAH to pound sand when UNO announced they were leaving the conference in 2009, and had an odd number for two years (2011-13).

 

[DrunkTrainPolka]

Re: New WCHA is dead

The CCHA proved that leagues don't mind rejecting UAH to stay at an even number.

GFM

ok...

so how do we solve this within these two years?

if you had to pick, let's say, seven other schools to be in a conference with, who would they be?

got to start somewhere...

 

[MTUHuskies]

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I'm betting that UAH will be #8 when the dust settles. They would still be a long trip for most of the teams but nothing like multiple flights and multiple time zones to AK. BG is closer to UAH than MTU, MSU or BSU. From FSU it is closer than BSU and about the same as MSU.

I would not be surprised to hear that UAH was actually part of the discussions but held out of the joint press release as a way to push harder to get funding for the new rink.

 

[ticapnews]

Re: New WCHA is dead

What we need is someone with the authority and respect to take the WCHA, AHA and maybe a couple of ECAC/NCHC teams and make three conferences based on geography. Possibly a east/south league, a Great Lakes league and a western league. That makes travel much easier, eliminates time zone problems and fuels rivalries because you are now in the same conference as your neighbors. Ferris State and Western Michigan are 100 miles apart. Miami and BG are 200 but there isn't a heated rivalry because they're in different conferences.

 

[DrunkTrainPolka]

Re: New WCHA is dead

I'm betting that UAH will be #8 when the dust settles. They would still be a long trip for most of the teams but nothing like multiple flights and multiple time zones to AK. BG is closer to UAH than MTU, MSU or BSU. From FSU it is closer than BSU and about the same as MSU.

I would not be surprised to hear that UAH was actually part of the discussions but held out of the joint press release as a way to push harder to get funding for the new rink.

could not agree more...

there is a lot we don't know about.

the biggest stretch would be bemidji to huntsville at around 1,200 miles.

in my dreams tech would be in a conference with;

LSSU, NMU, UMD, MNSU, BSU, SCSU, and either UMN or UWI.

 

[MTUHuskies]

Re: New WCHA is dead

could not agree more...

there is a lot we don't know about.

the biggest stretch would be bemidji to huntsville at around 1,200 miles.

in my dreams tech would be in a conference with;

LSSU, NMU, UMD, MNSU, BSU, SCSU, and either UMN or UWI.

Since MN or WI won't leave the B1G, I say bring in FSU. Michigan Division: MTU, NMU, LSSU and FSU. Minnesota Division: MSU, BSU, SCSU and UMD

That would allow BG (Full D-1 School) to join ND as associate member of B1G bringing them to 8 teams

 

[FMR_Alaskan]

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I don’t get all the fuss over Huntsville. It’s a 2 hour straight shot south of Nashville, which is not a hard place to fly to these days. If they are committed to building a new rink then it shouldn’t be seen as going out on a limb to include them with the Shady Seven.

The Alaska schools are cooked either way.

 

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Re: New WCHA is dead

What we need is someone with the authority and respect to take the WCHA, AHA and maybe a couple of ECAC/NCHC teams and make three conferences based on geography.

If only a governing body like that existed. Oh wait, there is, however, they're more concerned with whether or not I hand Brandon Kruse a free brat at a football tailgate.

 

[DrunkTrainPolka]

Re: New WCHA is dead

Since MN or WI won't leave the B1G, I say bring in FSU. Michigan Division: MTU, NMU, LSSU and FSU. Minnesota Division: MSU, BSU, SCSU and UMD

That would allow BG (Full D-1 School) to join ND as associate member of B1G bringing them to 8 teams

i like it...

but truth be told, i think that only WMU and UM are possible candidates out of the NACHO.

 

[DrunkTrainPolka]

Re: New WCHA is dead

I don’t get all the fuss over Huntsville. It’s a 2 hour straight shot south of Nashville, which is not a hard place to fly to these days. If they are committed to building a new rink then it shouldn’t be seen as going out on a limb to include them with the Shady Seven.

The Alaska schools are cooked either way.

i think that you will end up with a single team out of fairbanks... and try that out until more western teams possibly emerge or there is a new shake-up.

 

[dogs2012]

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Since MN or WI won't leave the B1G, I say bring in FSU. Michigan Division: MTU, NMU, LSSU and FSU. Minnesota Division: MSU, BSU, SCSU and UMD

That would allow BG (Full D-1 School) to join ND as associate member of B1G bringing them to 8 teams

Is this hypothetical? I don't see any NCHC teams making a change anytime soon.

 

[Alaska Hockey]

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I don’t get all the fuss over Huntsville. It’s a 2 hour straight shot south of Nashville, which is not a hard place to fly to these days. If they are committed to building a new rink then it shouldn’t be seen as going out on a limb to include them with the Shady Seven.

The Alaska schools are cooked either way.

they want a short bus ride league....

 

[ticapnews]

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If only a governing body like that existed. Oh wait, there is, however, they're more concerned with whether or not I hand Brandon Kruse a free brat at a football tailgate.

Hence the respect part of my statement.

The NCAA has zero interest in solving the issue. It's up to someone who does care about college hockey and has the gravitas to tell college administrators, coaches and fans "This is what we're doing," and have them do it. I don't know if such a person or organization exists.

 

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

Re: New WCHA is dead

Hence the respect part of my statement.

The NCAA has zero interest in solving the issue. It's up to someone who does care about college hockey and has the gravitas to tell college administrators, coaches and fans "This is what we're doing," and have them do it. I don't know if such a person or organization exists.

I was agreeing with you...

 

[ticapnews]

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I was agreeing with you...

I know

I'm just verbose

 

[BGFan]

Re: New WCHA is dead

If only a governing body like that existed. Oh wait, there is, however, they're more concerned with whether or not I hand Brandon Kruse a free brat at a football tailgate.

I was there when that happened. I was stunned that A) it got back to the NCAA and B) that it was really an issue. A brat? Really?