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NCHC: The Most Elite Conference in the Country

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The NCHC has greatly overestimated itself. Besides Miami and Western Michigan, which NCHC school has any name recognition outside of college hockey?
 
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The NCHC has greatly overestimated itself. Besides Miami and Western Michigan, which NCHC school has any name recognition outside of college hockey?

Considering that the NCHC is purely a college hockey conference, what does name recognition outside of college hockey have anything to do with this?
 
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Considering that the NCHC is purely a college hockey conference, what does name recognition outside of college hockey have anything to do with this?

With that logic, what does a national TV deal in order to create more exposure have to do with playing hockey? The teams you are leaving are all recognizable to those familiar with college hockey.
 
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With that logic, what does a national TV deal in order to create more exposure have to do with playing hockey? The teams you are leaving are all recognizable to those familiar with college hockey.

Who said anything about a national TV deal? I was simply asking why it matters to have name recognition outside of college hockey for the NCHC?

I'm not leaving any team...FWIW, I was against my schools' involvement in the creation of the NCHC.

It still amazes me that fans are still so butthurt over the NCHC. It happened. We'll find out in a few years whether it was a successful endeavor or not. It could very well be very beneficial for the teams that will be in the nWCHA. It could very well turn out to be very beneficial for college hockey in general. I guess people fear change, and are willing to blindly lash out against something that could very well be of great benefit to them and their program.
 
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We Can't play Hockey Association? Isn't the joke supposed to be against someone who doesn't win? Not much humor making fun of the Yankees for winning all those Championships

Except that the joke really is on the Yankees and they don't even know it! ;)


Yankee:
1683, a name applied disparagingly by Dutch settlers in New Amsterdam (New York) to English colonists in neighboring Connecticut.
 
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Besides Miami and Western Michigan, which NCHC school has any name recognition outside of college hockey?

So if you're excluding college hockey (the topic of this board and the purpose of the new conference, incidentally) ...you're asking which other NCHC school has name recognition in other sports? So, basketball and football, I assume? How is that relevant? In the "real world" - you know, where people go to college, graduate, get paying jobs... Denver and CC, at least, have very good reputations. I can't speak for the other schools.

I've always rather enjoyed that the CC students' favorite Denver taunt is "safe-ty scho-ol." Hockey, and books, that's what those schools care about. No name recognition for football and basketball fans? Thank God.

I've got all the time in the world. I'll trash them until I'm too old and feeble to pick up the keyboard. Fighting Sioux, Bulldogs, Tigers, you can come home. the rest can rot in hell.

Ooh, this is fun. So...

CC, North Dakota, Minnesota-Duluth: not evil.

Denver, St. Cloud, Nebraska-Omaha: the devils.

Now, I get the hatred toward the new conference... I don't agree, but I get it... but even so, that is an awfully strange way to draw the lines. I don't think I've ever stumbled across a nacho hate-fest on here and seen the Sioux excluded (but poor St. Cloud tossed in for the wolves). Ouch.


EDIT: Why UNO? Or is it just that you don't care about them either way, so no need to invite them back? Wait... is that recognition... that some schools are more fun to play than others? From a Tech fan? Uh oh, I see a slippery slope. Surely you have a reason for hating UNO more than the others.
 
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That's because SCSU doesn't have me and UND does. I make everything better!
 
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Who said anything about a national TV deal? I was simply asking why it matters to have name recognition outside of college hockey for the NCHC?

I'm not leaving any team...FWIW, I was against my schools' involvement in the creation of the NCHC.

It still amazes me that fans are still so butthurt over the NCHC. It happened. We'll find out in a few years whether it was a successful endeavor or not. It could very well be very beneficial for the teams that will be in the nWCHA. It could very well turn out to be very beneficial for college hockey in general. I guess people fear change, and are willing to blindly lash out against something that could very well be of great benefit to them and their program.

I probably should have put the ;) face in there.. merely harassing you. I'm aware you are one of the saner folks out there about it :)

But I'm not butthurt about it. Do I like it? Nope. Do I think we may have better chances in the newer league, maybe, but I'd still rather be in the WCHA, I'd rather have the Final 5. I'm not blindly lashing out at all.

I don't think it helps expansion like has been said though... You have 6 teams that can only expand if a Big Ten member joins, unlikely. Then you have Elitists, chances of them accepting a new program based on why they created the new league seems unlikely. Then you have teams that the NCHC teams feel don't have enough money to play with them that are supposed to be the conference for expansion? (not that I'm against that. I say bring UAH, costs be ****ed)
 
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When you put it that way they are adorable aren't they?

they are so cute ... punching guys in the handshake line, the coach giving refs the finger, fans like Dirty ... what's not to love? ;):):rolleyes::D
 
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I don't think it helps expansion like has been said though... You have 6 teams that can only expand if a Big Ten member joins, unlikely. Then you have Elitists, chances of them accepting a new program based on why they created the new league seems unlikely. Then you have teams that the NCHC teams feel don't have enough money to play with them that are supposed to be the conference for expansion? (not that I'm against that. I say bring UAH, costs be ****ed)

In regards to expansion, it was not going to happen under the old way of things. At least the current setup allows it. Hopefully UAH finds a home, and it wouldn't surprise me if the NCHC eventually went to 10 schools (agreed that they would probably not be "new" schools, but if it accepted a school from an existing conference that would open up another slot). Hockey East could theoretically add another to get to 12, which would likely create an opening in either the ECAC or Atlantic Hockey (perhaps Navy starts up a program?). The nWCHA is probably happy with 9, but obviously would probably be open to expansion if the right opportunities came about. Ultimately, it is probably just as likely that nothing changes, but at the end of the day one bright spot of the new alignment is that it does open up the possibility for expansion.
 
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He hates SCSU cause his team can't win in our building.
 
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That's because with Atlantic Hockey, the joke is already on the ice, so there's no need to make one out of the name.

Now I'm rooting for Ferris State since RIT (an AHA team) beat them this year. Pay no attention to that beatdown Union put on the Tigers.
 
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You moved from MN to ND and raised the IQ of both states. :)

Meh, Minnesota still has Biddy and his Cone of Ignorance.
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In regards to expansion, it was not going to happen under the old way of things. At least the current setup allows it. Hopefully UAH finds a home, and it wouldn't surprise me if the NCHC eventually went to 10 schools (agreed that they would probably not be "new" schools, but if it accepted a school from an existing conference that would open up another slot). Hockey East could theoretically add another to get to 12, which would likely create an opening in either the ECAC or Atlantic Hockey (perhaps Navy starts up a program?). The nWCHA is probably happy with 9, but obviously would probably be open to expansion if the right opportunities came about. Ultimately, it is probably just as likely that nothing changes, but at the end of the day one bright spot of the new alignment is that it does open up the possibility for expansion.

I don't see much expansion anytime soon, unless Moorhead suddenly shifts. I'm curious what happens to the bottom feeders of the "ELITE" conference? Enough money from playoffs etc to keep them happy? Will they be making more of less with the teams they will be playing? Maybe it does not matter, maybe it does.
 
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completely unscientific here but I don't see the NCHC being sustainable for very long. Has everyone ruled out the possibility of re-realingment?
 
Meh, Minnesota still has Biddy and his Cone of Ignorance.
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Unfortunetly for everyone, my Cone of Ignorance extends throughout the Upper Midwest.
 
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