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NCAA Tourney Team Selection Options

Imho, this is a great tournament bracket. After a year of beating the h**l out of each other, be fun to see some non-normal matchups. Have to believe their are some big surprises coming. Just feels like that sort of year.
 
Imho, this is a great tournament bracket. After a year of beating the h**l out of each other, be fun to see some non-normal matchups. Have to believe their are some big surprises coming. Just feels like that sort of year.

There are only 3 possible in conference matchups in Round 2. Each requires at least one 'upset'.

NoDak and UMD have only played each other twice this year, so a 3rd game wouldn't be bad
BC and BU have only played twice, so, again, a 3rd time wouldn't be bad
and BSU and LSSU have played a few times, but if they play in a regional final, I think that would be great.
 
Congratulations to Adam Wodon for showing both his ignorance and hate for the WCHA in the same false statement.

"After all, the WCHA has yet to win an NCAA Tournament game since the big split in 2013."

2016 - Ferris State beat 2nd overall seed St. Cloud State 5-4 in overtime.

Let's see how long it takes him to transfer that hate to the CCHA.

Ferris also won in 2014, the first year after the big split. He must not have spent a lot of time on research or fact-checking.
 
There are only 3 possible in conference matchups in Round 2. Each requires at least one 'upset'.

NoDak and UMD have only played each other twice this year, so a 3rd game wouldn't be bad
BC and BU have only played twice, so, again, a 3rd time wouldn't be bad
and BSU and LSSU have played a few times, but if they play in a regional final, I think that would be great.

I'm personally rooting for No Dak/Mich (Love the Dogs, they've had their run), Gophs/QU, Wisco/Mass and Cloud/BC. Some fun matchups that rarely happen.
 
So, will the hockey tournament be as crazy as the basketball tournament has been? I've got an AIC-Quinnipiac final. *smilie*
 
And as we all knew, you can quibble over Denver/Omaha and Notre Dame getting in but the WCHA getting 3 is a good thing for college hockey. None of the HE teams did enough to separate themselves. With the fear of what limiting travel would do to the bracket, that ended up a non factor. Committee did a very good job in the end.
 
I am assuming this is COVID related but there are bigger gaps in between the start times of these regional semifinal games than there normally is.

My guess is the gaps are to clear out the teams and clean the locker rooms between games and for those arenas that have fans, to clear out the fans and clean. I'm assuming that ticketing is per game. (No packages.)
 
Congratulations to Adam Wodon for showing both his ignorance and hate for the WCHA in the same false statement.

"After all, the WCHA has yet to win an NCAA Tournament game since the big split in 2013."

2016 - Ferris State beat 2nd overall seed St. Cloud State 5-4 in overtime.

Let's see how long it takes him to transfer that hate to the CCHA.

Wodon is just bitter because he was one of the people hoping all along (based upon his podcasts) that there would be little or no travel and that the eastern teams would stay east and the western teams would stay west, with maybe one team from out west going east to balance it out.

Obviously, the committee tried to go with bracket integrity over bus travel, and he's unhappy about it.
 
Its times like these that show how glad I am they have computer systems instead of committees to select this tournament.

It's also times like these that show the lameness of people like Adam Wodon and Jason Moy claiming any great prognostication skills when it comes to setting the bracket. I was getting a little tired of Moy beginning all of his bracketology columns with "I've picked the bracket right 19 straight years." Yeah, when a computer is doing it for you, you're great. When not, you're a blind monkey throwing poo in the air.
 
Moy should step away from the keyboard after having UMass as a 3 seed. But really in the absence of PWR, I don't think we could have expected the committee to do any better than this. They put together a good bracket.
 
So, will the hockey tournament be as crazy as the basketball tournament has been? I've got an AIC-Quinnipiac final. *smilie*

I'll try my best to not take that personally, yet I am an Iron Ranger. We get pissed easily. I always love the Mn teams, yet have a personal commitment to QU. Not saying anything about anything. I'm just happy we are playing, and anything can happen. Always willing to buy a beer after.
 
Moy should step away from the keyboard after having UMass as a 3 seed. But really in the absence of PWR, I don't think we could have expected the committee to do any better than this. They put together a good bracket.

I agree. I was worried the committee might think like Wodon and go with the minimal travel approach over bracket integrity.
 
Its times like these that show how glad I am they have computer systems instead of committees to select this tournament.

I'm curious as to why?

It seems to me like the committee did a good job in trying to choose the best 16 teams. At the end, that last 3 or 4 spots came down to very close calls.

Have you ever looked at the actual RPI numbers in the range of 12-16 in a season ending PWR? They are usually VERY VERY close. Close enough that in some cases, you could change a game result from November for a conference mate of one of the teams (not even one of the teams in question in the game, but just a conference mate, so you are adjusting the OppWin% and the OppOppWin%), change from a win to a draw, and you get a different order. That's very close. It tells you that the RPI is probably NOT actually able to distinguish between those teams. Why? Because, in reality, nothing is able to distinguish the teams.

We've come to trust the computers, but the computers can't really tell us what we want to know, so all we get is Scooby's "simple math". I like it that it's very subjective. But, in a year like this, I think we need to applaud the committee because they had to make a serious judgement call or two themselves. Their answer is no better or worse than the PWR.

It could have been very bad. For example...they could have said, "We want east/west balance." and then chosen BC and UMass as #1s. And, QU as a #2. And, for travel, heaped Fargo high with NCHC teams. They could have done a number of things differently, in which we all would wonder, "What?!?!"

The fact that we can see what they did, and it makes sense, even if we disagree on some particular choices, suggests they did well.

To me, examples are:
Who got the #4 overall? Wisc did, but UMass, and Mankato could also have been possibilities. Everyone commenting here would agree that parsing that out was one choice the committee had to make.
Again: Where to put QU? And, LSSU? Most of us had these as #3s, and the committee agreed.
Finally, if the final 3 spots came down to Bemidji, Omaha, Notre Dame, Providence, and Denver.....well, we all agreed about that, too. We may have chosen differently. We may have felt that 4 B10 teams is too many. But, in the end, we would all have to agree that these were the difficult choices we all expected.

So, one must admit that the committee did a good job.

Even though we all hope for a full season with lots of OOC games and a fully operational PWR next year.
 
Concerning Wodon and Moy....

Usually Wodon overthinks things, and that was true this year also. Usually Moy is more 'by the book'. In recent years, the committee has usually gone for "start by the book, and then make easy changes to get better attendance."
 
Congratulations to Adam Wodon for showing both his ignorance and hate for the WCHA in the same false statement.

"After all, the WCHA has yet to win an NCAA Tournament game since the big split in 2013."

2016 - Ferris State beat 2nd overall seed St. Cloud State 5-4 in overtime.

Let's see how long it takes him to transfer that hate to the CCHA.

Well, wouldn't want to let the facts get in the way of a good comment.
 
It's also times like these that show the lameness of people like Adam Wodon and Jason Moy claiming any great prognostication skills when it comes to setting the bracket. I was getting a little tired of Moy beginning all of his bracketology columns with "I've picked the bracket right 19 straight years." Yeah, when a computer is doing it for you, you're great. When not, you're a blind monkey throwing poo in the air.

Classic!
 
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