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NCAA Ruling Regarding Paying Athletes

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jstadts

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Does anyone Know where college hockey programs stand on this issue? Seems like it would be the end of many college hockey Programs
 
It seems like the end of many Division 1 scholarship programs. This is just the first shoe to drop. A 9-0 decision means that major changes are on the way. Here was a portion of one of the opinions-

The NCAA is not above the law," Kavanaugh wrote. "The NCAA couches its arguments for not paying student-athletes in innocuous labels. But the labels cannot disguise the reality: The NCAA's business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America.

For schools thinking about establishing a hockey program, this opinion will make them pause until they understand the total costs.
 
Yup. This whole thing worries me. Is football and basketball profitable for most of the power 5 conference schools? Absolutely. Is, say, Northern Michigan University getting rich off hockey? Hell no. What happens to all these small schools when or if they have to pay their student/athletes?
 
This may affect how the top talent is distributed amongst the blue bloods, but the rest of these kids are still going to need someplace to play. Atlantic Hockey will keep doing their thing, but the Nachos, B1G, and HE could initiate bidding wars over the top talent.

I think schools like Northern Michigan will be fine; it's the smaller Nacho and HE programs that should be worried when North Dakota and BC start spending.
 
This is going to be a competition death blow for football and possibly hockey. Add in the transfer portal and you are going to end up with the haves able to concentrate the high end players with talent trickling down from there.

Basketball should be fine as they have small rosters. If/when the NCAA has to pay players, that is when basketball will suffer.
 
Schools are not going to be forced to pay players, at least not for a very long time. NIL just means that players can profit off of their brand and name (things like endorsement deals). The Supreme Court decision had to do with an upper limit on academic and other school related aid. NIL is coming in the very near future, but paying players is probably many years away because the NCAA is not voluntarily doing that. It would have to come from another Supreme Court decision.
 
I think this could be a great thing for college hockey and am excited for some of the changes it could bring. It would be nice to have a few more games each year and think this could bring some guys to college hockey that in today’s world play major juniors. I don’t see it being bad at all.
 
sezenack said:
Schools are not going to be forced to pay players, at least not for a very long time. NIL just means that players can profit off of their brand and name (things like endorsement deals). The Supreme Court decision had to do with an upper limit on academic and other school related aid. NIL is coming in the very near future, but paying players is probably many years away because the NCAA is not voluntarily doing that. It would have to come from another Supreme Court decision.
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If you read what Kavanaugh wrote the NCAA is a dead man walking. What happens after that- who knows. Perhaps the complete professionalization of college sports???
 
kahunak said:
If you read what Kavanaugh wrote the NCAA is a dead man walking. What happens after that- who knows. Perhaps the complete professionalization of college sports???
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That's just what one justice wrote. Who knows how the others would rule in that type of case. And that case would take years to actually reach the Supreme Court. This case was first filed in a court in 2014. We're quite far away from anything being done like that. The NIL changes coming this year will solve lots of issues because then the athletes can finally receive money from their name and brand
 
I agree with the "tied up in court for years" opinions but just for fun peel back another layer of this onion. Wouldn`t kids that played MJ and were off limits in the past due to amateurism rules now be able to make an argument that they should be eligible. What difference does it make weather they were paid in canadian dollars or american?
 
sezenack said:
That's just what one justice wrote. Who knows how the others would rule in that type of case. And that case would take years to actually reach the Supreme Court. This case was first filed in a court in 2014. We're quite far away from anything being done like that. The NIL changes coming this year will solve lots of issues because then the athletes can finally receive money from their name and brand
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Here is a more thorough review of what happened. Paid internships will now be allowed. My guess is football players at Alabama and basketball players at Kentucky will now get $100,000 summer internship.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...blow-to-change-college-athletics-permanently/
 
The USA will have a very competitive major junior program, playing and competing with the best Canadian teams, in a year or two. The new American MJ program will be organized in leagues. Some you will recognize; B1G, NCHC, HE...

If a university actually wanted to win the frozen four in 2022/2023, this would be a good time to start lining up contracts with some of the best, younger Canadian MJ players.

The NCAA will of course file a lawsuit, DOA...
 
Well it was bound to happen as the NCAA went from a true non-profit to an arrogant we answer to no one mega corporation. They had the means to resolve this years ago and come up with a workable plan but they got greedy and because of the laws passed their hands are tied compared to what they could have done. Now they have to come up with something that has to satisfy a patchwork of new state laws. Good luck with that!
 
sezenack said:
That's just what one justice wrote. Who knows how the others would rule in that type of case. And that case would take years to actually reach the Supreme Court. This case was first filed in a court in 2014. We're quite far away from anything being done like that. The NIL changes coming this year will solve lots of issues because then the athletes can finally receive money from their name and brand
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I'm glad someone pointed this out. Kavanaugh's opinion was a concurrence, not the opinion of the Court. Furthermore it was joined by NO other justices. His opinion spoke for himself and himself only. I realize that the quotes from his concurrence were the juciest, so of course they got the most attention, but all that attention serves to greatly overemphasize what he wrote.

That's not to say that the opinion is not likely to be expanded upon over time. It most certainly will. But let's not act like schools will be paying athletes salaries next year or anything. That's putting the cart way before the horse.
 
If the NCAA is going to take a long hard fall and basically become impotent then maybe North Dakota can get their Sioux name back! Just a thought. (Big Grin!)
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
If the NCAA is going to take a long hard fall and basically become impotent then maybe North Dakota can get their Sioux name back! Just a thought. (Big Grin!)
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There's a greater chance of Deutsche Gopher Fan smoking Kools barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, with one on the hip, and three more tugging on apron strings, than that name coming back.

Allow me to explain the status of the previous UND moniker ...


Now, as far as the P5 becoming more powerful from this, we return to our spokespersons.
 
kahunak said:
Here is a more thorough review of what happened. Paid internships will now be allowed. My guess is football players at Alabama and basketball players at Kentucky will now get $100,000 summer internship.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...blow-to-change-college-athletics-permanently/
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“This case will not go down as an afterthought or minor victory tied to allowing players being able to be gifted with a laptop or a $4,000 paid internship, which is now permissible, effective immediately.”
So there was, or will now be a $4k cap on paid internships? Endorsements is another loophole then. Dam is breaking
 
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