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NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
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Old Rook NU'66
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Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
I concur and imagine that fans of both clubs are gun shy about making comments or predictions. Normally, I root for Middlebury (when not playing NU) but I find I am growing "fond of"
Plattsburg. So I am remaining neutral on this one. Like I said, I wouldn't want to face either team as they have proved to often that they can get the job done.
I think that we all care... maybe we're all afraid to make predictions that might either jinx our teams, or prove to be way wrong?
I concur and imagine that fans of both clubs are gun shy about making comments or predictions. Normally, I root for Middlebury (when not playing NU) but I find I am growing "fond of"
Plattsburg. So I am remaining neutral on this one. Like I said, I wouldn't want to face either team as they have proved to often that they can get the job done.Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
I have a feeling that what's posted here isn't getting into the locker room. And even if it is, I doubt it effects how they play.
And if it does, then man I should've been a much bigger ***** on here when I was a student....
I have a feeling that what's posted here isn't getting into the locker room. And even if it is, I doubt it effects how they play.
And if it does, then man I should've been a much bigger ***** on here when I was a student....
Birdwatcher
Registered User
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
Quoting the Midd announcer: "Leis is going to see more rubber than a daed skunk on the Northway!"
Quoting the Midd announcer: "Leis is going to see more rubber than a daed skunk on the Northway!"
mjmigliaccio
Registered User
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
SCORE!!!! 1-0 Cards!
SCORE!!!! 1-0 Cards!
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
Yeah that about sums it up. It was everything I was hoping for - intense, clean competitive hockey. I love when these games go down to the wire.
Yeah that about sums it up. It was everything I was hoping for - intense, clean competitive hockey. I love when these games go down to the wire.
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
Yeah, It certainly was exciting enough!
Congratulations to Plattsburgh on a very well played game,especially in the defensive end. They didn't give Middlebury a lot of good scoring opportunities.Best of luck in Lake Placid.
And also:
Congratulations to the Panthers on a great season, and thanks for the quality entertainment you provided your fans. Special thanks to the four Seniors, John Sullivan,Charlie Townsend, AJ Meyer, and Max Kennedy for the leadership you provided this young team. We're sure going to miss you.
Yeah, It certainly was exciting enough!
Congratulations to Plattsburgh on a very well played game,especially in the defensive end. They didn't give Middlebury a lot of good scoring opportunities.Best of luck in Lake Placid.
And also:
Congratulations to the Panthers on a great season, and thanks for the quality entertainment you provided your fans. Special thanks to the four Seniors, John Sullivan,Charlie Townsend, AJ Meyer, and Max Kennedy for the leadership you provided this young team. We're sure going to miss you.
Had Enough
New member
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
For those of you who saw the Midd/Plat game; I have posted this in the "refs absent without leave" thread. Your thoughts are welcomed.
Was online last night reading about the games: except for Oswego/Bowdoin, I wish I was there, particularly the two OT games. A little later in the evening I took a look at the scoresheets and a few things in the Plat/Mid game caught my eye.
A "shooting after the whistle" penalty in a Natioanal Quarter-Final Game?? Really?? Against Midd. Interesting. That was at 14:16 of the first with Plat up 1-0.
Then Midd scores at 16:06 of the second to make it 2-1 Platt and 30 seconds later, the refs work Plat into a 5 on 3 PP with calls against Midd at 16:36 and again at 17:06!
I wasn't there so if anyone was I would appreciate your take on this. Midd is not the team I follow, but the team I do follow plays Midd every year so I am very familiar with the cast of characters wearing the stripes. This pattern of penalties is exactly what I have seen occur year after year in cases when the refs seem to inexplicably decide to get involved in the outcome of the game.
A ridiculous, or unusual call. A "too many men" call on a line change that looked exactly like every other line change in the game. A "shooting after the whistle" call. The wrong team builds some momentum and we get a "crease violation" call out of the blue to slow things down a bit. The wrong team is getting back into the game; how about a 5 on 3 to settle things down a bit?
Again, I wasn't there so if anyone was, please chime in. But I also won't be surprised if the Plat folks think the refs did a great job, and the Midd folks disagree!
For those of you who saw the Midd/Plat game; I have posted this in the "refs absent without leave" thread. Your thoughts are welcomed.
Was online last night reading about the games: except for Oswego/Bowdoin, I wish I was there, particularly the two OT games. A little later in the evening I took a look at the scoresheets and a few things in the Plat/Mid game caught my eye.
A "shooting after the whistle" penalty in a Natioanal Quarter-Final Game?? Really?? Against Midd. Interesting. That was at 14:16 of the first with Plat up 1-0.
Then Midd scores at 16:06 of the second to make it 2-1 Platt and 30 seconds later, the refs work Plat into a 5 on 3 PP with calls against Midd at 16:36 and again at 17:06!
I wasn't there so if anyone was I would appreciate your take on this. Midd is not the team I follow, but the team I do follow plays Midd every year so I am very familiar with the cast of characters wearing the stripes. This pattern of penalties is exactly what I have seen occur year after year in cases when the refs seem to inexplicably decide to get involved in the outcome of the game.
A ridiculous, or unusual call. A "too many men" call on a line change that looked exactly like every other line change in the game. A "shooting after the whistle" call. The wrong team builds some momentum and we get a "crease violation" call out of the blue to slow things down a bit. The wrong team is getting back into the game; how about a 5 on 3 to settle things down a bit?
Again, I wasn't there so if anyone was, please chime in. But I also won't be surprised if the Plat folks think the refs did a great job, and the Midd folks disagree!
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
I thought that the officiating was average in this game with the usual inconsistencies. In the first period it seemed like they were going to "let em play", when they let a couple of potential boarding calls go. Then there was the shooting after the whistle call. You are right, that one was bogus. The shot was maybe half a second late. Steele was in the process of making the shot as it was blown. The few times that I have seen that call made before it was blatently obvious that the shooter heard the whistle, and shot anyway( out of frustration). The only other call that seemed poor to me was the Charging call. A Middlebury attacker was going hard to the net in hopes of poking in a rebound, and was pushed by a Plattsburgh defender into the Goaltender! Charging? I didn't think so.... Fortunately neither of these calls resulted in a PP goal , but they did deny Middlebury four minutes of even strength play. I seriously doubt that there was any kind of conspiracy to favor one team, most likely it was just humans doing what they do... making mistakes. Furthermore, I don't think that the officiating changed the outcome of the game, in fact it might be argued that Middlebury benefitted,as they were the ones to score 4on4 and 5on 4.
I thought that the officiating was average in this game with the usual inconsistencies. In the first period it seemed like they were going to "let em play", when they let a couple of potential boarding calls go. Then there was the shooting after the whistle call. You are right, that one was bogus. The shot was maybe half a second late. Steele was in the process of making the shot as it was blown. The few times that I have seen that call made before it was blatently obvious that the shooter heard the whistle, and shot anyway( out of frustration). The only other call that seemed poor to me was the Charging call. A Middlebury attacker was going hard to the net in hopes of poking in a rebound, and was pushed by a Plattsburgh defender into the Goaltender! Charging? I didn't think so.... Fortunately neither of these calls resulted in a PP goal , but they did deny Middlebury four minutes of even strength play. I seriously doubt that there was any kind of conspiracy to favor one team, most likely it was just humans doing what they do... making mistakes. Furthermore, I don't think that the officiating changed the outcome of the game, in fact it might be argued that Middlebury benefitted,as they were the ones to score 4on4 and 5on 4.
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Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
If I were to grade the officials performance in last nights game, it would be in the C category...
I thought that they kept a good flow to the game in minimizing penalty calls as, from my perspective, should have been called on both sides...
That being said, the shooting after the whistle call was not a good call in that it was a close play at the blue line which the official called Middlebury offsides with the shot coming right after the whistle...because it was a close call, the crowd roar obviously impeded the Middlebury player from hearing the whistle. That is a tough penalty to call in a game of this magnitude.
Secondly, the charging penalty called on Middlebury with under three minutes
to go and the score tied, was also not a very good call in my opinion. Yes, the Middlebury player made contact with the Plattsburgh goalie after being checked into the goalie from the Plattsburgh defense...again, a tough call at that juncture of the game.
A moot point maybe, as the Middlebury penalty kill unit did their job on both penalties...
The only other area in which I thought the officials struggled were obvious offsides, again by both teams, that were missed.
In summarizing, I agree the officiating I have witnessed this year in particular is not as good as I have seen in previous years...
That being said, it was not the officiating that decided last nights game...I thought Plattsburgh played a near perfect game, both offensively and defensively...they capitalized on their scoring opportunities and they did an excellent job minimizing Middlebury's scoring chances.
I think that Plattsburgh would have won this game in regular time if not for the outstanding effort of John Yanchek in net for the Panthers.
In closing, good luck to the Cardinals in Lake Placid and a big thank you to the Middlebury Panthers for an exciting season and to the seniors, John Sullivan, Charlie Townsend, AJ Meyer, and Max Kennedy.
If I were to grade the officials performance in last nights game, it would be in the C category...
I thought that they kept a good flow to the game in minimizing penalty calls as, from my perspective, should have been called on both sides...
That being said, the shooting after the whistle call was not a good call in that it was a close play at the blue line which the official called Middlebury offsides with the shot coming right after the whistle...because it was a close call, the crowd roar obviously impeded the Middlebury player from hearing the whistle. That is a tough penalty to call in a game of this magnitude.
Secondly, the charging penalty called on Middlebury with under three minutes
to go and the score tied, was also not a very good call in my opinion. Yes, the Middlebury player made contact with the Plattsburgh goalie after being checked into the goalie from the Plattsburgh defense...again, a tough call at that juncture of the game.
A moot point maybe, as the Middlebury penalty kill unit did their job on both penalties...
The only other area in which I thought the officials struggled were obvious offsides, again by both teams, that were missed.
In summarizing, I agree the officiating I have witnessed this year in particular is not as good as I have seen in previous years...
That being said, it was not the officiating that decided last nights game...I thought Plattsburgh played a near perfect game, both offensively and defensively...they capitalized on their scoring opportunities and they did an excellent job minimizing Middlebury's scoring chances.
I think that Plattsburgh would have won this game in regular time if not for the outstanding effort of John Yanchek in net for the Panthers.
In closing, good luck to the Cardinals in Lake Placid and a big thank you to the Middlebury Panthers for an exciting season and to the seniors, John Sullivan, Charlie Townsend, AJ Meyer, and Max Kennedy.
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
As a Plattsburgh fan, sitting with a VERY good view of the goal and shooter, I have to say two things: 1) It appeared to me that he (Chris Steele) had committed to shouting prior to whistle - had it went in, it should have been disallowed, that said, I seen insufficient cause for a penalty, but 2) the official who called it, didn't hesitate, he was very adamant and perhaps seen - or was aware - of something I didn't. It was a rare time that I didn't feel too disappointed that Plattsburgh didn't capitalize. Overall both teams played extremely disciplined, clean hockey – both deserve to be proud. The fans – outstanding – what being a fan should be.
As a Plattsburgh fan, sitting with a VERY good view of the goal and shooter, I have to say two things: 1) It appeared to me that he (Chris Steele) had committed to shouting prior to whistle - had it went in, it should have been disallowed, that said, I seen insufficient cause for a penalty, but 2) the official who called it, didn't hesitate, he was very adamant and perhaps seen - or was aware - of something I didn't. It was a rare time that I didn't feel too disappointed that Plattsburgh didn't capitalize. Overall both teams played extremely disciplined, clean hockey – both deserve to be proud. The fans – outstanding – what being a fan should be.
LoudHorns31
Rail #59
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
I will agree with you that the "charging" call on Midd was rather weak. but I think that it might have been a bit of a "make up" call for the same infraction that they called on Dylan Clarke earlier in the period with Plattsburgh on a 3-0 break away.
as for the shooting after the whistle, I don't know. usually if a player lets a shot go but lets up then they don't call it. The Middlebury player never even tried to let up on the shot and gave it everything he had. now that could be because he didn't hear the whistle, but I don't know and I can't speak for him on that.
I will agree with you that the "charging" call on Midd was rather weak. but I think that it might have been a bit of a "make up" call for the same infraction that they called on Dylan Clarke earlier in the period with Plattsburgh on a 3-0 break away.
as for the shooting after the whistle, I don't know. usually if a player lets a shot go but lets up then they don't call it. The Middlebury player never even tried to let up on the shot and gave it everything he had. now that could be because he didn't hear the whistle, but I don't know and I can't speak for him on that.
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
That might have been it, not so much that he completed the shot, but that he continued to play as if he didn't hear the whistle - which was on the end with the "louder" Middlebury fans, so IMO, it is plausible that he didn't.
The charging call, I agree, both were weak, but they probably were trying to make a statement, as jimmy d noted, "In the first period it seemed like they were going to "let em play", when they let a couple of potential boarding calls go". Maybe they were trying to say to both teams - "Don't Push It".
That might have been it, not so much that he completed the shot, but that he continued to play as if he didn't hear the whistle - which was on the end with the "louder" Middlebury fans, so IMO, it is plausible that he didn't.
The charging call, I agree, both were weak, but they probably were trying to make a statement, as jimmy d noted, "In the first period it seemed like they were going to "let em play", when they let a couple of potential boarding calls go". Maybe they were trying to say to both teams - "Don't Push It".
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Steveyc
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
Personally, I thought both "charging" penalties were weak...Midd actually scored on their powerplay resulting from the charging call on Platty...Why can't the reffs just call the obvious stuff in a 2-1 game? I officiated for 17 years so I can make that statement. The shooting after whistle call was also borderline to me. Otherwise, the game was very exciting and both Plattsburgh and Middlebury should be very proud of their teams' efforts. I'm glad I made trip across the pond, that's for sure!!! Go Cards!!!
Personally, I thought both "charging" penalties were weak...Midd actually scored on their powerplay resulting from the charging call on Platty...Why can't the reffs just call the obvious stuff in a 2-1 game? I officiated for 17 years so I can make that statement. The shooting after whistle call was also borderline to me. Otherwise, the game was very exciting and both Plattsburgh and Middlebury should be very proud of their teams' efforts. I'm glad I made trip across the pond, that's for sure!!! Go Cards!!!
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
What a great game of hockey! One of the best I've seen this year between two excellent teams. Good up and down hockey with such excitement and great atmosphere. Pleasant treatment from the hometown people, as ususal. Thanks for the good luck wishes also. Shouldn't repeat this chant here just in case someone should remember it for next year but... "Better Dead than Red" was a new one to me by a few students near us. LOL. Hope Oswego isn't reading, however.
What a great game of hockey! One of the best I've seen this year between two excellent teams. Good up and down hockey with such excitement and great atmosphere. Pleasant treatment from the hometown people, as ususal. Thanks for the good luck wishes also. Shouldn't repeat this chant here just in case someone should remember it for next year but... "Better Dead than Red" was a new one to me by a few students near us. LOL. Hope Oswego isn't reading, however.
hockeyfan77
Registered User
Re: NCAA Quarterfinal: Plattsburgh @ Middlebury
You would be surprised...
Is it possible for you to be a bigger **** on here:: j/k
You would be surprised...
Is it possible for you to be a bigger **** on here:: j/k
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