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NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey

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Versus is in about 75 million households. BTN is in about 40 million. I know which network will provide more exposure, hands down.
 
ND Hockey said:
Versus is in about 75 million households. BTN is in about 40 million. I know which network will provide more exposure, hands down.
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Great, but how many of those households really matter? You act like most of this country is clamoring for college hockey. Hockey is a niche sport in this country, and college hockey is even more so.

Most of those households in the Midwest, where hockey interest is arguably strongest in this country, will be far more likely to tune in to watch the Big Ten schools they are used to.

Not to mention, as I stated before, the move East will undoubtedly effect Notre Dame's recruiting. It will surely open the door to more opportunities out East, but it will certainly make it more difficult to recruit out West (especially in Minnesota). And Notre Dame's recruiting foot print has largely been in the West up until now.

Personally, I'm glad they are moving East. Had they moved into the Big Ten or the NCHC, I think they would have a had a much better chance of winning recruiting battles with us.
 
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And I think you're missing one really key point... The Big Ten owns their own network, so they get 100% of the advertising revenue. That's just more money to throw into their programs.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
ROTFLMAO.

No one watches hockey on Television.
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I've been trying to explain that to these morons for two days now and they can't seem to grasp that fact. If there was such a high demand for college hockey on television, more schools would have the type of local TV contracts that schools like Minnesota and North Dakota have had for YEARS.

If your a Notre Dame fan, be happy you'll get to see your team on TV more often. I get that. But these illusions of grandeur of this deal dramatically shifting the college hockey landscape are laughable.

LAUGHABLE.
 
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And FYI... Been thinking some more about the 2003 Championships TV ratings some more.

The Minnesota Wild also made it to the 2003 NHL Western Conference Finals that year.

Maybe that explains part of it?
 
JDUBBS1280 said:
I've been trying to explain that to these morons for two days now and they can't seem to grasp that fact. If there was such a high demand for college hockey on television, more schools would have the type of local TV contracts that schools like Minnesota and North Dakota have had for YEARS.



LAUGHABLE.
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If no one is watching then where are the advertising dollars come from? You need a more consistent message
 
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Indeed. The Minnesota Wild played Colorado in the playoffs on April 12, 2003.

<A HREF="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/2003/playoffs/daily_schedule/">2003 NHL Playoffs</A>
 
SteveF said:
If no one is watching then where are the advertising dollars come from? You need a more consistent message
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And you're suggesting more people will tune into Versus to watch college hockey then will turn into the BTN to watch college hockey?

Again.... LAUGHABLE.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
And you're suggesting more people will tune into Versus to watch college hockey then will turn into the BTN to watch college hockey?

Again.... LAUGHABLE.
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Its not laughable, it's certainly debateable. Don't assume how things are in Minnesota are the same across the country. Versus is a complete national network and virtually every cable system carries it. Of course, its not anywhere near as watched/known as ESPN, but it is a national network nonetheless. Big 10 Network is not. Many cable systems do carry it, but some do not. For example Cox, the main cable carrier in RI, doesn't carry the channel. Comcast in Boston does have it, but unless you care about the Big Ten (most around here do not), many people may not even realize they have the channel.
 
Brian Gentry said:
Its not laughable, it's certainly debateable. Don't assume how things are in Minnesota are the same across the country. Versus is a complete national network and virtually every cable system carries it. Of course, its not anywhere near as watched/known as ESPN, but it is a national network nonetheless. Big 10 Network is not. Many cable systems do carry it, but some do not. For example Cox, the main cable carrier in RI, doesn't carry the channel. Comcast in Boston does have it, but unless you care about the Big Ten (most around here do not), people many not even realize they have the channel.
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Look at where the biggest local TV deals are right now. There is a reason why, despite the larger travel expenses, schools like Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, and North Dakota are amongst the most profitable. Just using my school as an example. All but 4 Gopher games are currently viewable regionally, and sometimes have higher TV ratings than the Wild and T-Wolves. Can the same be said for any team's out East?

College hockey is a VERY niche sport, so when we're talking "nationally", let's be honest here. 95%+ of the viewers who tune in will be in college hockey markets. And of those markets, the ones with the most viewers (proven by the fact that they currently have the best TV deals) are in the Midwest. And you tell me, which games are a majority of people in the Midwest going to tune in to see?

It boils down to this. NBC will have more possible viewers (for now), but the BTN will have more interested viewers.
 
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SteveF said:
100% of a little is still a little
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Actually, they only get 49% of advertising revenue. News Corp. gets the majority of it.

JDUBBS1280 said:
And you're suggesting more people will tune into Versus to watch college hockey then will turn into the BTN to watch college hockey?

Again.... LAUGHABLE.
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Fox Sports Detroit's highest rated college hockey game (2001 Cold War) drew 66,000 viewers. Versus draws that number every Friday night with hunting shows. Local interest means zilch.
 
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ND Hockey said:
Versus is in about 75 million households. BTN is in about 40 million. I know which network will provide more exposure, hands down.
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Not that I really care to get too involved in this ****ing match because its not really about how many households have a station as much as it is how many actual people will watch the games... but the BTN is available to approximately 80 million households in the US/Canada (according to the network website).
 
ND Hockey said:
Actually, they only get 49% of advertising revenue. News Corp. gets the majority of it.


Fox Sports Detroit's highest rated college hockey game (2001 Cold War) drew 66,000 viewers. Versus draws that number every Friday night with hunting shows. Local interest means zilch.
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Again, if there was more college hockey interest out East, there would already be better local TV deals. There are not. All your little stat proves is that your games on NBC won't have as many viewers as hunting shows. In Minnesota, Wisconsin, and North Dakota, college hockey some times has higher ratings than the Wild or T-Wolves.
 
Hammy said:
Not that I really care to get too involved in this ****ing match because its not really about how many households have a station as much as it is how many actual people will watch the games... but the BTN is available to approximately 80 million households in the US/Canada (according to the network website).
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Thanks Hammy. Was too lazy to look that up.
 
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