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National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

Re: National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

I'd say ranking #1 in the KRACH rating while having a weaker SOS is a hell of an accomplishment.

This is no place for that kind of logic...

KRACH is like is poles, they don't really matter unless your number 1, and then they still don't really matter, unless your name is Ken.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

.....in the most competitive conference in the nation.

now, i know hockey east added notre dame but i don't remember minnesota ever being a part of the league
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

This thread is weak, and Union fans are handing out ammo like it's the Dept. of Homeland Security gearing up for an immigration raid.

Somebody just come out and say it... Union has played the weakest schedule among the four teams and still finished 3rd in the PWR... They are soft, and if it weren't for their acting abilities and the fact the refs are scared Bennett might TKO them their season would already be done.

I knew they had some good bud up in Vermont, but come on. You've clearly lost touch with reality at this point.
 
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I do enjoy most of the Minnesota fans on USCHO even if tArrogance can be annoying at times. I'm not sure why Union or BC fans would have to defend their SOS given that they're going to be in the Frozen Four and all. Clearly, they were doing something right.

And the fact that you just made me defend BC makes me feel very dirty. And not the Dirty who is still waiting the AIC jersey either.
 
I do enjoy most of the Minnesota fans on USCHO even if tArrogance can be annoying at times. I'm not sure why Union or BC fans would have to defend their SOS given that they're going to be in the Frozen Four and all. Clearly, they were doing something right.

And the fact that you just made me defend BC makes me feel very dirty. And not the Dirty who is still waiting the AIC jersey either.

Whomever wins it all this year is going to really earn it. All four teams are playing some pretty fantastic hockey. Have to say, I am probably most impressed with Union's depth and grit. But it is just too hard for me to look past the Jerry York and Johnny G factors.

It's just hard to see anyone shutting down that first line of theirs enough. Union is going to have their hands full, but I have yet to see a team as tenacious as this Union squad. Should be a great game to watch.

On paper I think the Gophers have a slight edge on the other side, but UND is playing some pretty inspired hockey right now, and Gothberg has been standing on his head recently. The games between these two teams are always battles, regardless of which team is up or down currently.

The Gophers played the perfect game against St Cloud to get to the Frozen Four. If they get past UND, I think they will need to repeat that performance to have a shot at beating whomever they would face in the final. Hard to imagine a team can play perfectly for that extended of a period. I'm skeptical, but hopeful :)
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

Hey, I never said that Minnesota was clearly the best team of the 4 in the FF. I didn't even predict that they'd win the title, much less beat UND, who everyone is saying is not as good as UMn this season. Most are predicting that it should be an easy win for Minnesota.

What I did say was, that it wouldn't have mattered who UMn played ON SUNDAY, UMn would have won. UMn played an almost flawless perfect game. Union is on a long winning streak? Great, UMn had the longest winning streak going until they secured the First Big Ten Conf Regular season title outright, then they relaxed and lost to a desperate Michigan team trying to get into the NCAA tourney, and then to an OSU team desperately trying to do the same thing. Seeing as they only had 4 losses prior to those 2 very forgivable losses, and are still ranked #1 in one of the polls, and still the overall #1 seed in the tournament, they have been pretty hot this season as well. They showed up when it counted and in both games, there was really no question who was going to win, but especially in the SCSU game.


What I thought I also indicted, but apparently not clearly enough, was the fact that what happened on Sunday probably won't mean much at all when they play UND, or whoever in the next game IF they beat UND. They could very easily lose to UND. Playing one perfect game doesn't win you a championship unless that one perfect game comes in the championship game, and then only if a team's perfect game is good enough to best whatever their opponent brings to the ice.


Could Union's perfect game beat UMn's perfect game, or BC's or UND's?! Who knows really? Honestly, UMn's perfect game could have lost to SCSU's perfect game? But we'll never know for sure because SCSU clearly did not bring their perfect game to the ice. UMn did.

Heck, a part of me is afraid that we've peaked already, maybe too early? There is almost no where to go but down from perfection. But maybe our B game can still beat UND depending on what they bring to the ice? I was not being arrogant by saying our perfect game would have beaten anyone on Sunday, because no other team can claim that their team brought their perfect game to the ice on Sunday. Union and BC and UND apparently didn't need their perfect games on the ice to win. That bodes well for them. UMn's B game would probably lose to Union and/or BC's A game and probably to UND's A game as well, so they are going to need to at least match whatever UND brings to the ice. And I honestly couldn't say if UMn's A game would beat BC or Union's A games? Guess that's why they play the games, eh? I can say that I almost can't imagine a better 4 team lineup this season? And I don't mean any disrespect towards Wisconsin, just for the fact that UND and Minny didn't get to play this season for the first time in almost forever makes this matchup so much more appealing.

Whoever wins the title this season, will have earned it and will deserve it, almost no matter how it all plays out. Probably the 3 best teams in the nation, without much, if any argument about them being the top 3, with only the order being disputed, along with a decent team that got hot enough to beat arguably the 4th best team in the nation.

The only thing I don't like about college hockey is having to wait friggin what? 12 days for the next game?



As far as history goes, I can bring tArrogance, like UMn has supplied more players to the US Olympic team throughout history than ALL THREE of the other FF participants COMBINED!!! lol

But when it comes down to one season, or either 1 or 2 games to end a season, not 1 of the 4 teams left standing can claim utter and unquestionable superiority over any of the other 3. tArrogance aside, I'm in part a pessimist and if I had to predict who wins, I'd say Union beats UMn 4-3 in OT. Last 3 times I predicted that the Gophers would win the Title, they lost in the Semis, the 2nd round and the 1st round. So hopefully I'll make it 4 wrong predictions in a row?! :)
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

But when it comes down to one season, or either 1 or 2 games to end a season, not 1 of the 4 teams left standing can claim utter and unquestionable superiority over any of the other 3.

pretty sure that after the 2010 and 2012 Frozen Fours , one team could claim "utter and unquestioned superiority over the other 3"
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

Key word there is "after".

doesn't the response fit his post??

But when it comes down to one season,or either 1 or 2 games to end a season, not 1 of the 4 teams left standing can claim utter and unquestionable superiority over any of the other 3

maybe you're right, his posts are so long that you kind of forget what he's trying to get across
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

doesn't the response fit his post??

But when it comes down to one season,or either 1 or 2 games to end a season, not 1 of the 4 teams left standing can claim utter and unquestionable superiority over any of the other 3

maybe you're right, his posts are so long that you kind of forget what he's trying to get across



I guess what I was saying is that its rare that one team goes into the FF looking vastly superior to all of its opponents. Do teams sometimes play very well at the FF?! Yeah. sometimes they do. How is that relevant to THIS year?

It's not. My guess most of those 2010 and 2012 players are now in the NHL or will be at home watching their alma mater on the TV.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

doesn't the response fit his post??

But when it comes down to one season,or either 1 or 2 games to end a season, not 1 of the 4 teams left standing can claim utter and unquestionable superiority over any of the other 3

maybe you're right, his posts are so long that you kind of forget what he's trying to get across

No doubt BC will remember last year's beating in Providence and the Gophers throttled BC in the 2nd game early in the season like 6-1.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Boston College vs Union College

I guess what I was saying is that its rare that one team goes into the FF looking vastly superior to all of its opponents. Do teams sometimes play very well at the FF?! Yeah. sometimes they do. How is that relevant to THIS year?

It's not. My guess most of those 2010 and 2012 players are now in the NHL or will be at home watching their alma mater on the TV.
It's not necessarily irrelevant. BC's Jr. and Sr. classes won a NC in 2012, and Minny's Jr. and Sr. classes got smoked in 2012 by same BC players. :) Is payback relevant? Usually, but since the goph's prefer collecting payback in October and December, they could be in a heap of trouble again. ;)

Then again, Union could be a very, very big problem for the Eagles.
Goph's will roll over the Sioux.
 
No doubt BC will remember last year's beating in Providence and the Gophers throttled BC in the 2nd game early in the season like 6-1.

I expect they will. Just like the numerous players on our roster who were on our 2012 team will remember that beat down you gave us.

That said, I don't think any of these teams will need any extra motivation to get up for these games. At least, I'd hope not.
 
It's not necessarily irrelevant. BC's Jr. and Sr. classes won a NC in 2012, and Minny's Jr. and Sr. classes got smoked in 2012 by same BC players. :) Is payback relevant? Usually, but since the goph's prefer collecting payback in October and December, they could be in a heap of trouble again. ;)

Then again, Union could be a very, very big problem for the Eagles.
Goph's will roll over the Sioux.

Gophers got "payback" during the 2013 season, if you want to call it that. Didn't stop them from running rampshot on your team again this year.

If these teams meet in the final, and if you guys win, it will be because the top line Jerry assembled is absolutely dominating and your defense and PK have really played well lately. Doesn't hurt that you have the best in-game coach in college hockey IMO either. It will have nothing to do with "payback" IMO.
 
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