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Nanook Nation 2014-2015

Re: Nanook Nation 2014-2015

I obviously have too much time on my hands...


What's our playoff record vs. each other?...

Not sure if we ever had a “playoff” game as DII independents (doubtful), but since 2013-14 was the first time we were in the same conference since 1994-95 and the only time we met in playoffs, I would assume our playoff record is 1-2-0 vs UAA.


...Didn't we shut you out one year? We won both games in _airbanks I believe...

I believe your pre-frontal cortex is confusing the issues. Are you asking about “playoff” games or Governor Cup (GC) games. In 2008-09 UAA shut out UAF in two GC games 3-0 and 1-0. Also, since the start of the GC I believe UAA has swept a two game series from UAF twice (1997 & 2009), and UAF has swept UAA twice in a two game series (2010 & 2013).


...Do your "fans" know you are U of A, and not U of A & F?...

Actually, our fans understand we are officially the University of Alaska Fairbanks, a land-grant, sea-grant, and space-grant institution and the flagship campus of the University of Alaska System. We are not U of A. Our athletic teams are called the Alaska Nanooks, or “Alaska” for short.


...Your precious Governor's Cup record is getting old, as in past 10 years old, as in not getting relevant like our dominate W-L record vs. you guys...

I’m assuming you and your fans know that the dominate W-L record you are so proud of includes going 22-0 vs the Nanooks in 1980 thru 1982, the first three years we were coming out of club status. Since I watched most of those games, I can attest that the early years were tough. But we sure had a lot of fun watching the rebirth of Nanook Hockey. I’m surprised you haven’t counted goals to make yourself feel good. We gave up over 70 goals to you guys that first year. Then again, we also lost to Tommy’s Elbow Room, a downtown bar. It kind of touches the heart to know that young UAA fans read about their relevant years of 1979-82.


...Also, there is more and more evidence that the players and coaches don't give two hoots about the rivalry. Looking across all sports, rivalry's are made for us fans...

Don’t kid yourself. The rivalry means a lot to fans, players, and coaches. Some schools even put bonuses in a coach’s contract for such nonsense.


...I would also be saying the same thing even if UAA had the better record of Governor's Cup wins...

OK, I call total BS on this.


...Chalk it up to me maturing and getting close to 26 when your supposed to get my pre-frontal cortex fully developing...

Huh? It’s ironic that of all the sentences to totally mangle you picked that one.


...To sum it all up, Final Five > Governor's Cup.

I would also trade a GC win for a playoff win. At the time, a playoff win (against UAA or anybody) is more important because it extends your season and gives you a chance to stay in the hunt. Or in UAA’s case, a chance to stay an extra night in a Holiday Inn Express. But UAA has three straight senior classes that have never held the cup during their college hockey careers and in retrospect that will sting.

More importantly, it’s not an either/or proposition. We expect to win the GC and any playoff game. We also expect to be competitive in our conference and host home ice. Maybe this will be the year we can check all the boxes. That is how a program becomes relevant.
 
I obviously have too much time on my hands...




Not sure if we ever had a “playoff” game as DII independents (doubtful), but since 2013-14 was the first time we were in the same conference since 1994-95 and the only time we met in playoffs, I would assume our playoff record is 1-2-0 vs UAA.




I believe your pre-frontal cortex is confusing the issues. Are you asking about “playoff” games or Governor Cup (GC) games. In 2008-09 UAA shut out UAF in two GC games 3-0 and 1-0. Also, since the start of the GC I believe UAA has swept a two game series from UAF twice (1997 & 2009), and UAF has swept UAA twice in a two game series (2010 & 2013).




Actually, our fans understand we are officially the University of Alaska Fairbanks, a land-grant, sea-grant, and space-grant institution and the flagship campus of the University of Alaska System. We are not U of A. Our athletic teams are called the Alaska Nanooks, or “Alaska” for short.




I’m assuming you and your fans know that the dominate W-L record you are so proud of includes going 22-0 vs the Nanooks in 1980 thru 1982, the first three years we were coming out of club status. Since I watched most of those games, I can attest that the early years were tough. But we sure had a lot of fun watching the rebirth of Nanook Hockey. I’m surprised you haven’t counted goals to make yourself feel good. We gave up over 70 goals to you guys that first year. Then again, we also lost to Tommy’s Elbow Room, a downtown bar. It kind of touches the heart to know that young UAA fans read about their relevant years of 1979-82.




Don’t kid yourself. The rivalry means a lot to fans, players, and coaches. Some schools even put bonuses in a coach’s contract for such nonsense.




OK, I call total BS on this.




Huh? It’s ironic that of all the sentences to totally mangle you picked that one.




I would also trade a GC win for a playoff win. At the time, a playoff win (against UAA or anybody) is more important because it extends your season and gives you a chance to stay in the hunt. Or in UAA’s case, a chance to stay an extra night in a Holiday Inn Express. But UAA has three straight senior classes that have never held the cup during their college hockey careers and in retrospect that will sting.

More importantly, it’s not an either/or proposition. We expect to win the GC and any playoff game. We also expect to be competitive in our conference and host home ice. Maybe this will be the year we can check all the boxes. That is how a program becomes relevant.

Nicely done. You didn't even have to mention knocking them out of a playoff spot on their home ice this year, or sweeping them to keep the trophy when all they had to do was muster a tie at home against a team with nothing to play for but pride.

I thought about a similar detailed response last night but decided drinking beer was more important.
 
Re: Nanook Nation 2014-2015

Nicely done. You didn't even have to mention knocking them out of a playoff spot on their home ice this year, or sweeping them to keep the trophy when all they had to do was muster a tie at home against a team with nothing to play for but pride.

I thought about a similar detailed response last night but decided drinking beer was more important.

I thought commenting on facts not mentioned in his original post would be considered unnecessary flaming, only adding fuel to the fire so to speak…and with the state-wide open burn ban I thought better of it.

Also, I’m older now and my pre-frontal cortex is not what it used to be. It took me a while to come to the more appropriate choice of action that you correctly and immediately recognized.
 
Re: Nanook Nation 2014-2015

I obviously have too much time on my hands...




Not sure if we ever had a “playoff” game as DII independents (doubtful), but since 2013-14 was the first time we were in the same conference since 1994-95 and the only time we met in playoffs, I would assume our playoff record is 1-2-0 vs UAA.

Correct.


I believe your pre-frontal cortex is confusing the issues. Are you asking about “playoff” games or Governor Cup (GC) games. In 2008-09 UAA shut out UAF in two GC games 3-0 and 1-0. Also, since the start of the GC I believe UAA has swept a two game series from UAF twice (1997 & 2009), and UAF has swept UAA twice in a two game series (2010 & 2013).


I asked about Governor's Cup as we have only played against each other once in the playoffs.

Actually, our fans understand we are officially the University of Alaska Fairbanks, a land-grant, sea-grant, and space-grant institution and the flagship campus of the University of Alaska System. We are not U of A. Our athletic teams are called the Alaska Nanooks, or “Alaska” for short.

During broadcasts of your games that I did watch on GCI channel 1 (since the name change to this season) your "fans" chant UAF, and apparently you didn't know this either your sports teams are named Alaska Nanooks or UA for short. While the school remains UAF. Also, since the name change your "fans" come down to Anchorage and still chant UAF. Is that clear enough for you? Or should I repeat myself in bold font?


I’m assuming you and your fans know that the dominate W-L record you are so proud of includes going 22-0 vs the Nanooks in 1980 thru 1982, the first three years we were coming out of club status. Since I watched most of those games, I can attest that the early years were tough. But we sure had a lot of fun watching the rebirth of Nanook Hockey. I’m surprised you haven’t counted goals to make yourself feel good. We gave up over 70 goals to you guys that first year. Then again, we also lost to Tommy’s Elbow Room, a downtown bar. It kind of touches the heart to know that young UAA fans read about their relevant years of 1979-82.

Psssssttttt, wasn't you UAF fans who decided that 10 years and more importantly five years indicate who good your team is? Just in case you forgot, it was. So your precious Governor's Cup record would stand: 10 years (4-3-?3? with shootout wins[shootouts are a whole another topic]), and 5 years (3-0-?2?). Technically UAA should "win" those years because you guys lost the Cup due to infractions. Typically across all sports the runner-up would take the trophy if the winning team is disqualified. So with that logic you guys would be at: 4-6 & 3-2.


Don’t kid yourself. The rivalry means a lot to fans, players, and coaches. Some schools even put bonuses in a coach’s contract for such nonsense.

Means a lot to fans. Players less, and coaches even less. For those players that were from Alaska yeah I could see them actually caring. But for those outsiders, I cannot see them coming in guns blazing as freshman asking and demanding to know who our rival teams are. That could grow till there senior season, but not everybody truly gets riled up about a rival team.

I think your confusing college football with all the rivalry stuff. The passion and hatred in rival teams is dying out across all sports, but if has a chance to live on in college sports due to most of the players actually staying 3/4 seasons. Once they become pros, the rival passion is lost out to money, fame, women/men. Look at the NFL, and how hard they push rivalry's there. They push them that hard because they are dying out. Players are staying less with individual teams, and it's becoming more about the money/fame/women/men.

I would love to see the contract Matt Thomas signed, love to see if there is a bonus for winning the Governor's Cup, and I would love to see just how much it is. (Side note, wonder if that does exist would it be trimmed due to declining revenue for UAA?)

If you would read between the lines during interviews of our coaches before and during the Governor's Cup, it has all usually about getting better, fixing things before the holiday break/playoffs. I know Dave Shyiak used to say that was always one of the goals during his seasons here. But I at least know, between getting your team ready for the playoffs and the WCHA Final Five or the Governor's Cup, I would choose the Final Five every time.

But I know you UAF fans love bragging about your Governor's Cup record, which is why we in turn brag about our all-time record.


OK, I call total BS on this.


Hey man, that's just like your opinion. I also only bring up our all-time record when one of you UAF fans bring up the Governor's Cup record.

Huh? It’s ironic that of all the sentences to totally mangle you picked that one.


Not an english major, that's for dam sure.

I would also trade a GC win for a playoff win. At the time, a playoff win (against UAA or anybody) is more important because it extends your season and gives you a chance to stay in the hunt. Or in UAA’s case, a chance to stay an extra night in a Holiday Inn Express. But UAA has three straight senior classes that have never held the cup during their college hockey careers and in retrospect that will sting.

More importantly, it’s not an either/or proposition. We expect to win the GC and any playoff game. We also expect to be competitive in our conference and host home ice. Maybe this will be the year we can check all the boxes. That is how a program becomes relevant.


I'll give you the last one, I don't know why. Perhaps I'm in a good mood?
 
Re: Nanook Nation 2014-2015

More importantly, it’s not an either/or proposition. We expect to win the GC and any playoff game. We also expect to be competitive in our conference and host home ice. Maybe this will be the year we can check all the boxes. That is how a program becomes relevant.

Winning a couple of NCAA playoff games gives a team relevance as well. Sure, it's been since forever but our program pulled off perhaps the biggest ever upset in NCAA hockey playoff history. So there's that.
 
Re: Nanook Nation 2014-2015

Winning a couple of NCAA playoff games gives a team relevance as well. Sure, it's been since forever but our program pulled off perhaps the biggest ever upset in NCAA hockey playoff history. So there's that.

Close to it, but Holy Cross over Minnesota just edges it. Yours was still an epic win.
 
Re: Nanook Nation 2014-2015

Don't forget that UAA had to beat Boston College twice, Holy Cross only had to beat Minnesota once. :)

As stated, an epic win. One to be proud of.

But BC was at best the #5 team in a field of 12, where Holy Cross was a #15 vs #2 Minnesota. And we're not even mentioning last year when a #16 beat a #1 for the first time ever.
 
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As stated, an epic win. One to be proud of.

But BC was at best the #5 team in a field of 12, where Holy Cross was a #15 vs #2 Minnesota. And we're not even mentioning last year when a #16 beat a #1 for the first time ever.

BC was falling apart down the stretch after the Beanpot that season, and had also been off for two weeks before the NCAAs after losing in the first round of the Hockey East Tournament
 
Re: Nanook Nation 2014-2015

Don't forget that UAA had to beat Boston College twice, Holy Cross only had to beat Minnesota once. :)

It was in 1991, upsetting Boston College 3-2 and 3-1 in the First Round before losing to eventual National Champion Northern Michigan 5-8 and 3-5 in the Quarterfinals.
 
Re: Nanook Nation 2014-2015

And a "history lesson... they have a lot of trouble with it.

Au contraire. We enjoy reading about 1991, when Pee Wee Herman, Jeffrey Dahmer, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and the Seawolves all thought they were relevant. It’s a hard to tell within that select group who turned out to be the biggest disappointment to their followers.

Here’s to the relevant years…

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Au contraire. We enjoy reading about 1991, when Pee Wee Herman, Jeffrey Dahmer, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and the Seawolves all thought they were relevant. It’s a hard to tell within that select group who turned out to be the biggest disappointment to their followers.

Here’s to the relevant years…

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I don't care who you are ... that's funny right there.

GFM
 
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