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MSU Spartans 2024 Off-season: APRIL start?

owslachief

owslachief

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Coming up short is always a bitter pill, no matter when it happens. It's a young team that maybe needs to learn from it's mistakes (bad penalties for example). But I think it's good to take a moment and celebrate some remarkable accomplishments. Who would have predicted so much hardware so soon?
 
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Pretty incredible season by this team and staff. Not just purely wins, but such great team to watch. Munn hasn’t been genuinely fun like that in 15 years or more? I think longer. Maybe even much longer, considering the expectations that even Comley’s better teams were falling short of most of the time. This team will go down as one of the greats in Spartan history and considering the slog of a rebuild we anticipated 2 years ago, it’s an unbelievable accomplishment. Everyone should be proud.
 
D Victor Hurtig, G Jon Mor, and forwards Gavin Best and Owen Baker are into the transfer portal, while MSU picked up a transfer who was a candidate for NCHC defensive D-man of the year in Colorado College's Nicklas Andrews. In all, despite Hurtig's status as property of New Jersey, so far it seems the Spartans have a net gain, when comparing production numbers and a combined 30 games played, and inasmuch as Mor finished four seasons as a Spartan.
 
owslachief said:
D Victor Hurtig, G Jon Mor, and forwards Gavin Best and Owen Baker are into the transfer portal, while MSU picked up a transfer who was a candidate for NCHC defensive D-man of the year in Colorado College's Nicklas Andrews. In all, despite Hurtig's status as property of New Jersey, so far it seems the Spartans have a net gain, when comparing production numbers and a combined 30 games played, and inasmuch as Mor finished four seasons as a Spartan.
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Andrews is a huge pickup and will almost certainly contribute a lot.

I think Hurtig and Baker could easily find comfy homes with any CCHA squad. I’d say any other year for MSU they’d be regulars but they got buried by a stacked roster.
 
Pirateasaur said:
I’d say any other year for MSU they’d be regulars but they got buried by a stacked roster.
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Subscribed. This is where the transfer portal shows its value to ensure college athletes have a positive experience throughout their college career. On the flip side, it can bury a program before it even gets off the ground. Stonehill College's long-time coach retired, and Lindenwood fired its coach. Those schools have a combined 20+ transfers out in their wake.
 
Question. With UM looking to start a woman's hockey program any chatter or thoughts on Sparty following suit?
Can Munn accommodate both men & women's teams?
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
Question. With UM looking to start a woman's hockey program any chatter or thoughts on Sparty following suit?
Can Munn accommodate both men & women's teams?
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The Dump Skunks are not starting a women's program. That was an applause line from a loudmouth Regent with no knowledge of the barriers to launching one. Unless Ilitch herself is going to pony up the money for a new ice sheet and scholarships, it's got a 0% chance.

The state of Michigan doesn't have a way to feed players to a program. There's no high school state championship because there just aren't any teams. Until that happens, you're shunting in more out of state kids to fill your roster. Maybe that's ok for SUNY-Ann Arbor who already has more enrolled from New York than its own state, but it's a tough sell at the real state flagship.

And you'd need to expand Munn again to install a program, which isn't going to happen. Greater Lansing now has THREE ice sheets total, so ice time is already at a premium.

So in short, no way.
 
John J. MacInnes said:
The Dump Skunks are not starting a women's program. That was an applause line from a loudmouth Regent with no knowledge of the barriers to launching one. Unless Ilitch herself is going to pony up the money for a new ice sheet and scholarships, it's got a 0% chance.

The state of Michigan doesn't have a way to feed players to a program. There's no high school state championship because there just aren't any teams. Until that happens, you're shunting in more out of state kids to fill your roster. Maybe that's ok for SUNY-Ann Arbor who already has more enrolled from New York than its own state, but it's a tough sell at the real state flagship.

And you'd need to expand Munn again to install a program, which isn't going to happen. Greater Lansing now has THREE ice sheets total, so ice time is already at a premium.

So in short, no way.
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Thank you for replying but I would like to offer some counterpoints to you comments if I may.
For a woman's program to be successful in hockey it isn't built on in state talent or if a state has HS hockey or how many sheets of ice and Ohio State is the perfect example. Ohio doesn't have many rinks, no girls HS hockey and OSU's women's team plays in a 63 year old barn that seats around 650 but our women's team has been to 4 consecutive Frozen Fours and two Natty's in 3 years. That success is based solely on having a coach and her staff who knows how to get the job done and the athletic dept giving her the tools to do it.
As a supporter of women's hockey and women's sports everywhere I simply felt a women's team at MSU would be a natural fit and a plus for the university. You don't think that if UM gets a team MSU at that point wouldn't feel some pressure?

But I will counter that UM actually WILL get their women's program. Although I attended OSU my family is originally from Michigan with connections to UM going back 110 years so I know for certain the wheels are in motion there. I say they'll have a women's program in 3 years so if it doesn't happen as I predict circle back then and critique me all you want. That's my two cents worth and a little extra.
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
Thank you for replying but I would like to offer some counterpoints to you comments if I may.
For a woman's program to be successful in hockey it isn't built on in state talent or if a state has HS hockey or how many sheets of ice and Ohio State is the perfect example. Ohio doesn't have many rinks, no girls HS hockey and OSU's women's team plays in a 63 year old barn that seats around 650 but our women's team has been to 4 consecutive Frozen Fours and two Natty's in 3 years. That success is based solely on having a coach and her staff who knows how to get the job done and the athletic dept giving her the tools to do it.
As a supporter of women's hockey and women's sports everywhere I simply felt a women's team at MSU would be a natural fit and a plus for the university. You don't think that if UM gets a team MSU at that point wouldn't feel some pressure?

But I will counter that UM actually WILL get their women's program. Although I attended OSU my family is originally from Michigan with connections to UM going back 110 years so I know for certain the wheels are in motion there. I say they'll have a women's program in 3 years so if it doesn't happen as I predict circle back then and critique me all you want. That's my two cents worth and a little extra.
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I too wondered at how complete was the dismissal of the varsity sport proposition, as far as UM is concerned. The wheels indeed seem to be in motion there.

I don't think it can be applied to MSU's case however. Although the high-rollers in making these decisions have new names, the fact that lacrosse was downgraded from a varsity to a recreational sport on campus, despite it being a MHSAA-sanctioned and well-established sport for both boys and girls, and the resistance to bringing back swimming, are sure signs that a varsity women's hockey program is a long way off. Considering the relative costs to the university, virtually impossible.
 
owslachief said:
I don't think it can be applied to MSU's case however. Although the high-rollers in making these decisions have new names, the fact that lacrosse was downgraded from a varsity to a recreational sport on campus, despite it being a MHSAA-sanctioned and well-established sport for both boys and girls, and the resistance to bringing back swimming, are sure signs that a varsity women's hockey program is a long way off. Considering the relative costs to the university, virtually impossible.
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These are the exact things I wanted to know to satisfy my curiosity. Thanks!
 
So, how do we feel about Charlie Stramel possibly transferring here?

Also, I really hope we have a slot for Mikey DeAngelo. Dude has been on a tear in Green Bay.
 
aallenpollreisz said:
So, how do we feel about Charlie Stramel possibly transferring here?

Also, I really hope we have a slot for Mikey DeAngelo. Dude has been on a tear in Green Bay.
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I have to figure Stramel, Whitelaw, and now Lucius weren't buying into Hastings' vision for Wiscy. Which doesn't necessarily make them bad actors even if rumblings are out there. I trust Nights & staff to make a similar "fit" assessment via proper vetting. And that might be the hold up vis a vis the rumors re. Stramel coming here. The more time that goes by, it's seeming like a Jack Hughes (NU to BC) situation from last off-season e.g., someone's intel wasn't right.

As for DeAngelo, a PPG player in the USHL? Yes, please!!!

EDIT: So I guess it's a done deal w/ Stramel. In Nights I trust.
 
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FLHockeyMom said:
I have to figure Stramel, Whitelaw, and now Lucius weren't buying into Hastings' vision for Wiscy. Which doesn't necessarily make them bad actors even if rumblings are out there. I trust Nights & staff to make a similar "fit" assessment via proper vetting. And that might be the hold up vis a vis the rumors re. Stramel coming here. The more time that goes by, it's seeming like a Jack Hughes (NU to BC) situation from last off-season e.g., someone's intel wasn't right.

As for DeAngelo, a PPG player in the USHL? Yes, please!!!

EDIT: So I guess it's a done deal w/ Stramel. In Nights I trust.
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It's a good day to be a Spartan. Were there some health history/concerns with DeAngelo in the months leading up to his current offensive binge? Seems like we saw him fall through the draft rounds last June and slow start this season.
 
Granted MSU has the talent this year to begin with. Nights has had to put it together in less than two years and look how far they got ... one B.S. regional final matchup away from a Frozen Four. So WHY again is Greg Brown (coach of a perennial powerhouse BC team with two NHL top lines) Coach of the Year???
 
As reported by LSJ hockey beat reporter Nathaniel Bott: Remember the name Brady Peddle, whom the Spartans just picked up a commitment from. Looks like MSU had lots of competition, including some big name hockey schools. 2007 D-man who's already 6'2, 185.
 
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