MSU Spartan off-season - the grand flame-out

[STATEdude3]

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This is the only place that I've read about Rowe signing anything. Is this a rumor or is there someplace to confirm it?

I still haven't seen anything anywhere. Anyone who is friends with Rowe want to facebook stalk for an answer?

 

[gomsuman]

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Comley said Rowe told him “he’s definitely not leaving.” this i found on the state news website while doing some internet searching... so if he did leave then i don't think anyone (Comley) saw this coming.

 

[owslachief]

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I haven't seen anything through the usual lines of communication. Sometimes announcements are made the following day though (like the Adbdelkader signing). I'm not a facebook stalker, so I cant speak to that avenue of investigation.

Apparently this thing got started with a post on a jr. hockey blog - someone who claims connection with Muskegon. There are myriad places I'd look for confirmation before I'd look here - but I wouldn't be shocked if there is a solid reason we read "rumors". If you held a gun to my head I'd say this is someone in the grapevine who got the story wrong - or someone getting in a dig on us.

If this is substantiated - I'd say this is the biggest blow to our program in two years.

 

[STATEdude3]

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Apparently this thing got started with a post on a jr. hockey blog - someone who claims connection with Muskegon. There are myriad places I'd look for confirmation before I'd look here - but I wouldn't be shocked if there is a solid reason we read "rumors". If you held a gun to my head I'd say this is someone in the grapevine who got the story wrong - or someone getting in a dig on us.

If this is substantiated - I'd say this is the biggest blow to our program in two years.

This would be as damaging as the Kennedy/Ratchuk departure. We expected Abdelkader to leave, but the loss of the other two was devastating. This would be the exact same thing.

I still have not read anything or heard from any of the hockey people that this has legs. I am going to assume it's speculation until there is something that says otherwise.

 

[Nevergoodenough]

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OK, I will confirm this...


It is a rumor... and that's all I know.

I've heard this rumor from about 5 different sources, and yet nothing can be confirmed by anyone. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this because if it is true, there's nothing we can do about it anyway. I will still try to find something, but I am not holding my breath.

 

[observer85]

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I've heard this rumor from about 5 different sources, and yet nothing can be confirmed by anyone. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this because if it is true, there's nothing we can do about it anyway. I will still try to find something, but I am not holding my breath.

If Rowe and Tropp don't have anything firm now, then the next thing that the coaching staff will have to concern themselves with is losing them when they go to the pro team's development camp(s) this summer. Lots of pressure with the pro personnel people (and other players) telling a kid how it is good to 1) have money and 2) play for a chance to get to the show. You can't get to the show if you are still playing college hockey in December, January and February.

If they are on the brink of leaving, it is probably better that they go now and then the coaching staff will still have a decent chance to replace them with a USHL, BCHL or NAHL guy who can get through admissions versus having to get something through admissions in August.

 

[montyminny]

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Rowe signs with Philly . Hopefully Tropp doesn't follow and sign with Buffalo.

Andrew Rowe has had a nice career, a bit back ended with the production (7 points as freshman, 14 as sophomore and 28 as junior) but on the right path. Probably in high demand but stay another year, finish school and be in even more demand - plus he could burn a year of a 2 year contract like Casey Wellman of UMass did by signing with the Minnesota Wild.

I would hope that Corey Tropp does not leave after being given a life line by Comley after his "issue" in his sophomore year. The pro game will be there, this fall or the next fall after. He would have to sign a 3 year deal if he leaves this summer but only a 2 year deal after his senior year.

The player I would be more concerned about leaving this summer might be Daultan Leveille. His first 2 years were a bit sporatic but solid. As a 1st rounder, perhaps Atlanta is ready to have him continue his development in their system?

 

[owslachief]

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If Rowe and Tropp don't have anything firm now, then the next thing that the coaching staff will have to concern themselves with is losing them when they go to the pro team's development camp(s) this summer. Lots of pressure with the pro personnel people (and other players) telling a kid how it is good to 1) have money and 2) play for a chance to get to the show. You can't get to the show if you are still playing college hockey in December, January and February.

If they are on the brink of leaving, it is probably better that they go now and then the coaching staff will still have a decent chance to replace them with a USHL, BCHL or NAHL guy who can get through admissions versus having to get something through admissions in August.

Good points. And leave it to Philly to pull the rug out from under us (or other programs in this state for that matter) when things are relatively quiet.

 

[STATEdude3]

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Good points. And leave it to Philly to pull the rug out from under us (or other programs in this state for that matter) when things are relatively quiet.

Philly is the worst at plucking young college talent. You would think that with all the college guys they take early that don't develop as fast as they like, they would stop taking that chance.

 

[owslachief]

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I would hope that Corey Tropp does not leave after being given a life line by Comley after his "issue" in his sophomore year. The pro game will be there, this fall or the next fall after. He would have to sign a 3 year deal if he leaves this summer but only a 2 year deal after his senior year.

I sure hope you're right.

Because of this.
Ph*ck you Philly. Parasites.

 

[STATEdude3]

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Aaaaand there is the confirmation.

Best of luck Rowe...thank you for giving your very best to Spartan Hockey.

 

[gomsuman]

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well this is going to be devastating to our lines next year..

 

[STATEdude3]

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well this is going to be devastating to our lines next year..

I am worried that Tropp and/or Levielle may not take this well and bolt themselves. We just went from a top 3 CCHA finish to MAYBE 6/7 in my opinion.

 

[gomsuman]

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I am worried that Tropp and/or Levielle may not take this well and bolt themselves. We just went from a top 3 CCHA finish to MAYBE 6/7 in my opinion.

Lets hope that neither of those things happen. Because if they do then we will be right back to where we were two years ago. I am sure that some of the young guys will step us nicely though (got to always think positive cause there is a long time till next season).

 

[aallenpollreisz]

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Well, Comley's haters can rejoice, as this one we can confirm he didn't see coming. Extremely tough break for us, as this will totally jumble our top lines.

Comley's going to have to do some digging to find a serviceable replacement, as the timing of this signing is incredibly, incredibly bad for us. Nonetheless, good luck to Rowe. Kid was easily one of my favorite Spartans, and his three years here were excellent.

If Tropp bolts come draft time, we will be in a world of hurt. Good luck trying to find a replacement for Tropp's output in late June.

 

[Arwen22266]

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I sure hope you're right.

Because of this.
Ph*ck you Philly. Parasites.

Instead of being negative toward Philadelphia, let us hope they recognized talent in Andrew Rowe and offered him an opportunity he couldn't turn down. This is someone with good family support, and I would at least like to think he consulted with his family before making a decision.

After having had the chance to attend Ernie Harwell's visitation earlier tonight, I am reminded that we all occasionally need to reorder our priorities. Flame me if you want, but we are fans, alums or students - we're not out there playing. This is not about us. Whatever happens to this team next year - as disheartening as it may be to the fans - life will go on off the ice, or it won't. Make the best of it.

 

[aallenpollreisz]

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I sure hope you're right.

Because of this.
Ph*ck you Philly. Parasites.

Well, here's the deal for Rowe: Either he pays 1/10th or 1/5th of in-state tuition to play for MSU, or, he jumps and makes $500,000 with the Flyers or (more likely) $87,500 with the Phantoms.

I don't blame the kid for grasping the brass ring.

 

[Nevergoodenough]

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Instead of being negative toward Philadelphia, let us hope they recognized talent in Andrew Rowe and offered him an opportunity he couldn't turn down. This is someone with good family support, and I would at least like to think he consulted with his family before making a decision.

After having had the chance to attend Ernie Harwell's visitation earlier tonight, I am reminded that we all occasionally need to reorder our priorities. Flame me if you want, but we are fans, alums or students - we're not out there playing. This is not about us. Whatever happens to this team next year - as disheartening as it may be to the fans - life will go on off the ice, or it won't. Make the best of it.

Well said Arwen.... And I still think this team will be "OK". There are some guys who should develop and grow into next season. Rowe didn't exactly turn the ice to fire his first season, but he was steady his second. Don't panic yet fans...

 

[JTWRJW]

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Can't blame the kid in his situation. Most people in his position would jump at the chance. I won't be too surprised if Tropp ends up leaving as well. I cannot see Leveille leaving early as he still needs to develop physically which he can do at MSU without Atlanta paying for it. I could see Grant leaving early.

 

[montyminny]

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Well, here's the deal for Rowe: Either he pays 1/10th or 1/5th of in-state tuition to play for MSU, or, he jumps and makes $500,000 with the Flyers or (more likely) $87,500 with the Phantoms.

I don't blame the kid for grasping the brass ring.

I believe the max salary in the AHL for entry level contracts is $67,500.But based on how his agent structured the NHL portion of the contract, he should get 10% of that salary as a bonus, at a minimum. So using the $500K number, that would be $50,000 bonus and $67,500 minor league salary = $117,500 at a minimum. If Rowe gets called up, then the number goes up.

Since MSU encourages their kids to attend summer school, I am thinking he is closer to graduating from school than one might think.