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Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok

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We are going to see The Last Jedi tonight.

One of us had not yet seen The Force Awakens, and so we re-watched it last night. I missed the first 45 minutes or so (I had seen it before) and what I saw again last night didn't change my opinion of it much.

Generally, when I hear people complain about something in a sci-fi/fantasy movie being unbelievable, my initial reaction is "oh, and the rest of it is??".

However, if you have just finished planting bombs to blow up a power facility which is about to destroy everyone you know, and you have just a few moments before Armageddon to detonate the bombs and get out of there before the entire planet you are on explodes, you probably would not choose that time to try to have a heart-to-heart conversation with your estranged son....save that conversation for another time, after you are sure that his mother will survive.




and is it possible that Snoke came into the Star Wars galaxy when Gollum took the One Ring from Frodo? when he fell into the volcano at Mt. Doom, instead of being destroyed, he was transported through a space/time warp, along with the Ring, to wherever/whenever he wound up?
 
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FreshFish said:
and is it possible that Snoke came into the Star Wars galaxy when Gollum took the One Ring from Frodo? when he fell into the volcano at Mt. Doom, instead of being destroyed, he was transported through a space/time warp, along with the Ring, to wherever/whenever he wound up?[/SIZE]
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The same actor plays both roles.
 
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FreshFish said:
Generally, when I hear people complain about something in a sci-fi/fantasy movie being unbelievable, my initial reaction is "oh, and the rest of it is??".

However, if you have just finished planting bombs to blow up a power facility which is about to destroy everyone you know, and you have just a few moments before Armageddon to detonate the bombs and get out of there before the entire planet you are on explodes, you probably would not choose that time to try to have a heart-to-heart conversation with our estranged son....save that conversation for another time, after you are sure that his mother will survive.
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Star Wars is a movie about magical space wizards and people complain that there's no sound in a vacuum. They've established rules for the environment. As long as they stick to those rules, no problem. If suddenly Wonder Woman can fly that's a problem. One thing in particular with TLJ comes very close to that line (and crosses it for many).

If you mean Han on the bridge in TFA, that was a confrontation that was going to happen. Leia tells Han to save their son. Kylo goes to that part of the fortress to draw Han out. If it hadn't been on that bridge, it would have been in the woods on the way back to the Falcon. It was a deleted scene, but Kylo knows where the ship is and boards it at one point. He is going to kill his father; Han is not getting off Starkiller Base alive.
 
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ticapnews said:
If it hadn't been on that bridge, it would have been in the woods on the way back to the Falcon. It was a deleted scene, but Kylo knows where the ship is and boards it at one point. He is going to kill his father; Han is not getting off Starkiller Base alive.
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That would have fit the characters much better. A few moments before the bridge scene, Han said something like "escape now; hug later" to Finn and Rey. I understood that in order to fulfill the Darth Vader parallel, Kylo Ren had to kill Han at some point; my (minor) quibble was, would Han really have called out to Ben right then and there, right after they had just planted explosives and had to detonate them almost immediately if everyone else were to survive?
 
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That would have fit the characters much better. A few moments before the bridge scene, Han said something like "escape now; hug later" to Finn and Rey. I understood that in order to fulfill the Darth Vader parallel, Kylo Ren had to kill Han at some point; my (minor) quibble was, would Han really have called out to Ben right then and there, right after they had just planted explosives and had to detonate them almost immediately if everyone else were to survive?
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He had to kill Han because he was the best person to choose to do it. Harrison Ford had been begging for them to kill him off for a long time.
 
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Since at least Empire Strikes Back...

Then again they could have just written him out.
 
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Handyman said:
Since at least Empire Strikes Back...

Then again they could have just written him out.
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He probably would not have agreed to do the film unless they killed him off. Would have been a real bummer not to have him there.
 
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Not what I'd call "timely."

We should get the Iran-Contra movie in about 2030.
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I'm only watching that if Seth MacFarlane fleshes out the Ollie North song into a full movie. But, we all know it will be Oliver Stone, who will lick Reagan's boots and make North the lone villain.

You really think they would've made a Chappaquiddick movie while Teddy was still alive? The Kennedy family would've poutraged for months, threatened legal action, garnered media sympathy for 'the poor, tragic Kennedy family' and can't we just leave them alone? Etc.

No, this is a movie that could've only happened well after his death.
 
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SonofSouthie said:
The Irishman. DeNiro and Pesci reunited with Scorsese. Throw in Pacino and it looks like it might be pretty good. I thought it was a remake of "Kill the Irishman" at first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIP6Lg3PeTg
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I'll have to check that out, and thankfully it's NOT a remake of Kill The Irishman, as that movie was as well done as it could be. LOVE that movie.
 
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I'll have to check that out, and thankfully it's NOT a remake of Kill The Irishman, as that movie was as well done as it could be. LOVE that movie.
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Me too. Don't think anyone else could have played Danny Greene other than Ray Stevenson.
 
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Me too. Don't think anyone else could have played Danny Greene other than Ray Stevenson.
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Kilmer and Walken nailed their roles, D'Onofrio was excellent, and what's his face as the other mob boss was awesome.

Of course, Paul Sorvino as a bonus was nice.
 
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