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Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

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Brenthoven said:
If you like that non-bloody, mental style, try "Creep" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYx5R6kbJTQ

or

"Hush" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdSsXiEIDSA
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Gore is about distancing the audience so they can control what's going on ("that special effect was realistic/unrealistic"). Mindf-ck horror is intimate -- if you let it in there's nowhere to retreat to, so you are genuinely involved, and MUCH, much more scared. Get Out was a great example of the latter.

I've still only seen one scene in one gore picture that somehow managed to do both. "You are my lucky star."
 
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Kepler said:
Another recent one: It Follows.
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Yeah, that was a good one, too.

There are "realistic" gore pics, I suppose. I've heard the Saw ones were up there (yes, I shield my eyes for realistic stuff; even medical procedures on tv that have detail; do not like!). But stuff like the slasher flicks of the 80s and such...I really don't care for that style.

Stuff that really messes with your head, especially stuff that easily CAN happen in real life (like Creep or Hush)....now we're talking. Don't need much action...it's about suspense.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Yeah, that was a good one, too.

There are "realistic" gore pics, I suppose. I've heard the Saw ones were up there (yes, I shield my eyes for realistic stuff; even medical procedures on tv that have detail; do not like!). But stuff like the slasher flicks of the 80s and such...I really don't care for that style.

Stuff that really messes with your head, especially stuff that easily CAN happen in real life (like Creep or Hush)....now we're talking. Don't need much action...it's about suspense.
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I remember watching Hitchcock's Rear Window as a kid and being absolutely terrified at the quiet suspense of it. Our senses are so benumbed by gore and violence now that I doubt that film would have the success that it did then.
 
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burd said:
I remember watching Hitchcock's Rear Window as a kid and being absolutely terrified at the quiet suspense of it. Our senses are so benumbed by gore and violence now that I doubt that film would have the success that it did then.
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The three movies that Kep and I mentioned are in that vein, obviously modernized with the times. I would recommend.


Shimmer Lake:

Sheriff in a small town investigates a bank robbery. One of the suspects is his brother.

Dark comedy, told in reverse fashion. I thought it was fairly well done. Have fun with the twists!
 
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47 Meters Down.

Sharks are scary.

Beyond that, meh. Mandy Moore and Matthew Modine needed a paycheck, I'm guessing.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Yeah, that was a good one, too.

There are "realistic" gore pics, I suppose. I've heard the Saw ones were up there (yes, I shield my eyes for realistic stuff; even medical procedures on tv that have detail; do not like!). But stuff like the slasher flicks of the 80s and such...I really don't care for that style.

Stuff that really messes with your head, especially stuff that easily CAN happen in real life (like Creep or Hush)....now we're talking. Don't need much action...it's about suspense.
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I am one of the dwindling number of people who will still defend the original Saw. But every sequel just wearies me further.

That said, it was never scary to me. The torture porn scenes I just skip -- they're a symptom of a malignant phase we are going through right now as a culture and they have no "redeeming social importance." But Saw did have an interesting exploration of morality, as well as righteousness and the examined life.

Or maybe it didn't and that was all projection, like critics reading J. G. Ballard and finding him profound (hint: he's not; he's just a hack with a gift for making even the lurid dull).
 
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Kepler said:
I am one of the dwindling number of people who will still defend the original Saw. But every sequel just wearies me further.

That said, it was never scary to me. The torture porn scenes I just skip -- they're a symptom of a malignant phase we are going through right now as a culture and they have no "redeeming social importance." But Saw did have an interesting exploration of morality, as well as righteousness and the examined life.

Or maybe it didn't and that was all projection, like critics reading J. G. Ballard and finding him profound (hint: he's not; he's just a hack with a gift for making even the lurid dull).
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My two youngest nephews convinced my mom to take them to the latest Saw movie (III or IV) when they were both young teenagers, and my mom didn't know any better - early stages of Alzheimer's and not being plugged into the current movie scene. I arrived home from work and a couple minutes later they all arrived at the house, and my mom looked like she'd just witnessed fatal car crash just a few minutes prior. Then the next day she forgot all about, like it never happened. All's well that ends well.
 
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St. Clown said:
My two youngest nephews convinced my mom to take them to the latest Saw movie (III or IV) when they were both young teenagers, and my mom didn't know any better - early stages of Alzheimer's and not being plugged into the current movie scene. I arrived home from work and a couple minutes later they all arrived at the house, and my mom looked like she'd just witnessed fatal car crash just a few minutes prior. Then the next day she forgot all about, like it never happened. All's well that ends well.
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Yikes.

I'd say the kids might not be so lucky, but the internet means anybody who can use a mouse has seen more by the time they're 9 than the Marquis de Sade ever fapped to.
 
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Kepler said:
I am one of the dwindling number of people who will still defend the original Saw. But every sequel just wearies me further.

That said, it was never scary to me. The torture porn scenes I just skip -- they're a symptom of a malignant phase we are going through right now as a culture and they have no "redeeming social importance." But Saw did have an interesting exploration of morality, as well as righteousness and the examined life.

Or maybe it didn't and that was all projection, like critics reading J. G. Ballard and finding him profound (hint: he's not; he's just a hack with a gift for making even the lurid dull).
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My buddy worked for a radio station so I got sneak preview tickets to Saw. We spent the whole movie laughing at the terrible acting and over the top theatrics. The teenage girls behind us were laughing too. That movie and Hostel were just vastly overrated pieces of crap. (imo)

Obviously though I was in the minority :)
 
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Handyman said:
That movie and Hostel were just vastly overrated pieces of crap.
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Hostel is the only movie that has ever shocked me. Not the movie but the fact that it made money.

It was nothing but gawking at cruelty. It was my first inkling that after two generations of knuckledragger war, politics, and morality, a large swath of America is despicable.

Maybe Chesterton was right and the apes need a god to fear and obey to keep them from being, well, themselves.
 
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Kepler said:
The torture porn scenes I just skip -- they're a symptom of a malignant phase we are going through right now as a culture
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If you are not yet familiar with them, I suggest you look into the Mouse Utopia experiments from the 1950s. the parallels are eerie and more than a bit disturbing.... :(
 
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Kepler said:
I am one of the dwindling number of people who will still defend the original Saw. But every sequel just wearies me further.

That said, it was never scary to me. The torture porn scenes I just skip -- they're a symptom of a malignant phase we are going through right now as a culture and they have no "redeeming social importance." But Saw did have an interesting exploration of morality, as well as righteousness and the examined life.

Or maybe it didn't and that was all projection, like critics reading J. G. Ballard and finding him profound (hint: he's not; he's just a hack with a gift for making even the lurid dull).
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If you want morality movies with a bit of blood, "13 Sins" is excellent.
Without blood, and it's basically a play put on film, I'd say "Circle." (edit: not the Emma Watson one)

I own both, and for full disclosure, I buy only about 20% (maybe slightly less) of the movies I see. And I love buying movies.
 
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FreshFish said:
If you are not yet familiar with them, I suggest you look into the Mouse Utopia experiments from the 1950s. the parallels are eerie and more than a bit disturbing.... :(
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I am going to take your word for it and skip them. The Behaviorists were idiots, anyway.
 
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Babydriver.

Another great pick by Dr. Mrs. A-. Kids: this is exactly what it felt like every day in the 70s.
 
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Kepler said:
Babydriver.

Another great pick by Dr. Mrs. A-. Kids: this is exactly what it felt like every day in the 70s.
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I've heard good things.

I am either getting "Split" (guy with 23 personalities kidnaps some young girls, looks intense besides being a Shamalamadingdong movie), or Rogue One (which I've seen before). Roll of the dice with Netflix.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I've heard good things.
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I recommend. It's not a cinematic masterpiece but it's a lot of fun. Hamm is a hoot, and the lead kid is going to have a good career.

And Spacey? Good Christ, what if The Usual Suspects and Glengarry Glen Ross had a baby named Frank Underwood. He's hysterical; I'm not entirely sure that was his intent.

Also: this movie is the ridiculous fun that Death Proof tried to be but wasn't.

It also has a truly epic soundtrack.
 
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Kepler said:
I recommend. It's not a cinematic masterpiece but it's a lot of fun. Hamm is a hoot, and the lead kid is going to have a good career.

And Spacey? Good Christ, what if The Usual Suspects and Glengarry Glen Ross had a baby named Frank Underwood. He's hysterical; I'm not entirely sure that was his intent.
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Oh I'll watch it. For sure. I like a fun movie, especially if the musical aspect/timing is what it is hyped up to be. That's an added bonus.
 
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Coming attractions: you know how Steve Martin makes a godawful pablum cash dive movie every five years (e.g., Father of the Bride) so he can afford the other twelve fantastic money-losing projects he does over that span?

I give you Julianne Moore in Kingsmen: Golden Circle.
 
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Kepler said:
Coming attractions: you know how Steve Martin makes a godawful pablum cash dive movie every five years (e.g., Father of the Bride) so he can afford the other twelve fantastic money-losing projects he does over that span?

I give you Julianne Moore in Kingsmen: Golden Circle.
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Wait, what? Kingsman sequel?
 
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