MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

[4four4]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

There has been some notice of the success of UNO hockey in Kansas City, particularly by city officials who have a white elephant building, and some sentiment has been developed down there that "hey, maybe we can do this, too". The story I read led me to believe that this is more city than school driven.

Link?

 

[mcfarljd]

Also, anyone want to call up Ohio University, University of Illinois-Chicago and Saint Louis University and convince them to get back into D-1 men's hockey?

Findlay!

 

[Red Cows]

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Link?

I knew somebody was gonna ask this. I'll try and find it and post it. This was, I think in the Kansas City Star right about the time of the announcement of the Icebreaker for next season. I am from Kansas City, although I have lived in Omaha for the past 22 years, and I am there about twice a month, and it may be that I saw it in something like "The Pitch", instead, which is a local weekly.

 

[Beer Pong Horn]

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Findlay!

Get the Illitches on the phone too, 'cause Wayne State still needs their on-campus arena and Red Wings practice facility.

 

[davyd83]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

I wasn't aware that the Air Force paid all the teams in the Atlantic Hockey to fly there. Or that any CCHA or WCHA teams going to Alaska got their airfare covered by any means other than their own either.

So that means Mankato and Northern Michigan and Bemidji should all add a $10-15,000 flight to their expenses, right. And what I was referring to with Air Force and flights was the fact that they head east 7 times a year. Maybe geography is the wrong term, maybe it's cost, because it's either an expensive flight or an extra day on the road each way, additional missed class time, which when you add a trip to Alaska to your schedule and some runs from Mankato to Bowling Green or Bemidji to Ferris becomes a concern too.

 

[Tipsy McStagger]

Don't forget that SCSU's AD told the NCHC to go pound sand when they broke away from the WCHA. Then when they get their invite, they start singing a whole different tune.

SCSU was invited to be a bottom in the NCHC. Hope they like it...

Pretty sure we can compete with Omaha, Duluth, Western Michigan, CC and Miami.

 

[LSSULaker889294]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

I have a feeling UAH is going to get screwed over.....AGAIN. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[4four4]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

I have a feeling UAH is going to get screwed over.....AGAIN. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I am curious. How so?

 

[Beer Pong Horn]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

I am curious. How so?

Let me take a crack at it.

Hypothesis: College X, within the WCHA's footprint, has a big donor willing to fund a men's D-I hockey team. College X approaches the WCHA and says, "Daddy Warbucks says he will fund our new hockey team, and we would like to join your conference starting in Fall 2013. See, we've already started to gather players and a coach, and we're breaking ground on an arena in July!" The WCHA leaps at the opportunity and saves the tenth spot for College X, despite UAH's pleas.

Fast forward to Fall 2013. Daddy Warbucks' stock value fell, and now he can only give $15 million to College X. College X can't scrape up the rest, so they tell the WCHA, "Give us one more year." Meanwhile, Chris Luongo puts together a .350 season in Huntsville.

Fast forward to late Spring 2014. Daddy Warbucks goes to prison for tax evasion, and College X is stuck with half a stadium and an overpaid gym instructor. The WCHA tells College X to screw off and immediately offers a conference spot to UAH the week before the university plans to announce the hockey program's cancellation. UAH takes the spot, but Luongo's miracle season has already gotten him a job in the ECAC. They promote an assistant and go ahead regardless.

Fast forward to Spring 2015. UAH finishes dead last in the WCHA with 2 conference points (a 1-1 tie and a 0-0 tie), two forfeits (since they couldn't afford to go to UAF) and an average attendance of 325 people per game. The university decides, "We can't keep embarrassing ourselves," and pulls the plug. Geof Morris cries in his beer for three months.

 

[4four4]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

Let me take a crack at it.

Hypothesis: College X, within the WCHA's footprint, has a big donor willing to fund a men's D-I hockey team. College X approaches the WCHA and says, "Daddy Warbucks says he will fund our new hockey team, and we would like to join your conference starting in Fall 2013. See, we've already started to gather players and a coach, and we're breaking ground on an arena in July!" The WCHA leaps at the opportunity and saves the tenth spot for College X, despite UAH's pleas.

Fast forward to Fall 2013. Daddy Warbucks' stock value fell, and now he can only give $15 million to College X. College X can't scrape up the rest, so they tell the WCHA, "Give us one more year." Meanwhile, Chris Luongo puts together a .350 season in Huntsville.

Fast forward to late Spring 2014. Daddy Warbucks goes to prison for tax evasion, and College X is stuck with half a stadium and an overpaid gym instructor. The WCHA tells College X to screw off and immediately offers a conference spot to UAH the week before the university plans to announce the hockey program's cancellation. UAH takes the spot, but Luongo's miracle season has already gotten him a job in the ECAC. They promote an assistant and go ahead regardless.

Fast forward to Spring 2015. UAH finishes dead last in the WCHA with 2 conference points (a 1-1 tie and a 0-0 tie), two forfeits (since they couldn't afford to go to UAF) and an average attendance of 325 people per game. The university decides, "We can't keep embarrassing ourselves," and pulls the plug. Geof Morris cries in his beer for three months.

So are they going to get screwed over? Or are they getting screwed over?

 

[jericho]

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Pfft... Still in second

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There's a big difference between Air Force and UAH... it's a little easier when you have a trillion dollar bankroll.

And your own planes and pilots.

 

[Beer Pong Horn]

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So are they going to get screwed over? Or are they getting screwed over?

Yes, most likely.

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

Nothing too new in this, but some more information none the less:

http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/59221/

 

[Red Cows]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

Link?

Still looking around for this.

However, in that process, another country was heard from:

http://www.rockchalktalk.com/2012/2/16/2794605/should-kansas-add-division-one-ice-hockey

KU?

The blog is pure conjecture and the writer makes erroneous or laughable statements, like about the elimination of UAH's program or then he goes on to talk about the inevitability of Texas adding D-1 hockey and how KU should get the drop on them in that regard. LOL. He even suggests a head coach for KU to poach for their non-existent program.

 

[MUhawks628]

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KU?

The blog is pure conjecture and the writer makes erroneous or laughable statements, like about the elimination of UAH's program or then he goes on to talk about the inevitability of Texas adding D-1 hockey and how KU should get the drop on them in that regard. LOL. He even suggests a head coach for KU to poach for their non-existent program.

I think that's the same guy who runs http://thecollegehockeyblog.com

 

[Beer Pong Horn]

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I think that's the same guy who runs http://thecollegehockeyblog.com

Appears that way.

http://thecollegehockeyblog.com/about/

...

Thanks for stopping by our sweet little spot on the web. If you have any questions, complaints, suggestions, etc. please e-mail me at fetch9 [at] gmail.com and I will get back to you as soon as I possibly can. Thanks for reading.

Either way, he doesn't sound like he has the ear of anyone AT Kansas, just that he would like it a lot, and that he's having college hockey withdrawals.

 

[thebrain]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

Minnesota State University Moorhead will not be adding hockey. I received an official E-Mail from the MSUM Alumni Association with the full press release, but here's the Fargo Forum article.

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/352296/

Minnesota State University Moorhead President Edna Szymanski is expected to announce today that the school has decided not to add Division I ice hockey to its athletic program.

In a letter she released to the MSUM faculty, Szymanski said the school has fallen short of raising the necessary money to fund a Division I men's and women's hockey team "due to the current econmic climate."

 

[Pump It Up]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

In the car so no link, but KFGO radio is reporting President Edna has announced MSUM will pull the plug on the hockey dream. They just couldn't raise the funds, apparently.

 

[Pump It Up]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

And I got beat to the punch. Better post above both of mine.

 

[Flashy Man]

Re: MN State-Moorhead, AL-Huntsville, WI-GB and Iowa State looking at the WCHA

Minnesota State University Moorhead will not be adding hockey. I received an official E-Mail from the MSUM Alumni Association with the full press release, but here's the Fargo Forum article.

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/352296/

Minnesota State University Moorhead President Edna Szymanski is expected to announce today that the school has decided not to add Division I ice hockey to its athletic program.

In a letter she released to the MSUM faculty, Szymanski said the school has fallen short of raising the necessary money to fund a Division I men's and women's hockey team "due to the current econmic climate."

I thought this part was interesting.

In addition to the financial implications of adding a premier sport, the decision was influenced by upcoming changes in conference affiliations. Membership shakeups from the formation of the Big 10 Hockey Conference and the National Collegiate Hockey Conference won't take effect until 2013-14, but the changes created a limited window of opportunity.

To me it seems the WCHA may have decided on a 10th member.