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MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

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There are some marvelous comments in that Marlins post
 
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2 games are getting "interesting" tonight.

Reds/phils, and orioles/jays
 
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There will be some people suspended after what happened between the Rockies and Padres today.
 
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Has it always been a rule in MLB that if you bunt foul with 2 strikes you're out?
 
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Isn't that the rule in all baseball? That's the way we played in little league.
 
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burd said:
Has it always been a rule in MLB that if you bunt foul with 2 strikes you're out?
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Good question. As far back as the 20s it was but I don't know about before that. I'm not sure when it was actually codified as a distinctive thing (other than say a check swing).

I also didn't know a bunt is an exception to the IF Fly Rule. I've not seen any team use that to their advantage.

My guess is that since it is a gamesmanship thing it probably dates from the 1880s-90s. That's when there was a real push to eliminate gamesmanship mostly because it was leading to serious violence on the field and in the stands. They tried to make it a "Gentlemanly Pastime." Balks were introduced then (and the color line enforced).
 
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state of hockey said:
Isn't that the rule in all baseball? That's the way we played in little league.
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yes. Just wondering how old the rule is. Seems forever to me, but I got to wondering today what the exact rationale was. Guess I should do a little research on my own for once. :)
 
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burd said:
yes. Just wondering how old the rule is. Seems forever to me, but I got to wondering today what the exact rationale was. Guess I should do a little research on my own for once. :)
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The rationale was a player could just keep fouling strikes until he was walked.
 
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Kepler said:
The rationale was a player could just keep fouling strikes until he was walked.
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Yes, that makes complete sense, given how much easier it is to foul off a bunt. A little different now, though with more pitchers bringing it at high 90s to 100 plus. High and tight. No fun bunting that stuff.
 
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burd said:
Has it always been a rule in MLB that if you bunt foul with 2 strikes you're out?
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What they all said. In softball, if it's a foul ball (bunting is prohibited) on a 2-1 count, you're out. So they adjusted for the short count.
 
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joecct said:
You're starting at 1-1? Also, don't you get one free foul at 2-1?
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Instead of 4-3, you get 3-2, foul on 3rd strike is an out. Maybe church leagues or something get a free foul, but not in registered leagues. Given the offense of softball, an accelerated count makes sense.
 
burd said:
yes. Just wondering how old the rule is. Seems forever to me, but I got to wondering today what the exact rationale was. Guess I should do a little research on my own for once. :)
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My bad. Didn't get the context. Thought the rule was some sort of new revelation to you.
 
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Cubs were down 10-2 to the Braves, and came back to win.
 
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