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MLB 2010: Hope Springs Eternal

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A least Joyce didn't run right into the lockers, and stood out there and took the (well deserved) crap from the players and managers.

Awful call.
 
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I get that Umps in general want to get the calls right. I think we all realize that.

But I don't see what he could of saw on that play to make him think that was not an out.

If playing a game under protest ever got anything changed, this would be a candidate.

Thankfully it is a June game, and not playoff game where the outcome maybe gets changed by having the extra out.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Clue us in who have no idea what you're talking about, please.
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The last hitter grounded to Cabrera. Cabrera throws to Galarraga, beating the runner by a step. Ump calls him safe.

Watch the replay. You will not believe what you see.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Clue us in who have no idea what you're talking about, please.
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Imagine the Tigers leading the Indians 3-0 in the 9th inning. Imagine the Tigers pitcher having retired the first 26 batters in order.

Now imagine if you will a grounder between first and second base, fielded by the first baseman and thrown to the pitcher for an out by a good 2 steps.

Now lets say the Umpire calls that runner safe....
 
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Brenthoven said:
Clue us in who have no idea what you're talking about, please.
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Detroit pitcher Armando Galarago perfect through 8 and 2/3. Grounder to 2nd, Cabrera throws out the runner by a half a step. Umpire Jim Joyce mistakenly calls him safe, hilarity ensues.
 
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WeWantMore said:
Detroit pitcher Armando Galarago perfect through 8 and 2/3. Grounder to 2nd, Cabrera throws out the runner by a half a step. Umpire Jim Joyce mistakenly calls him safe, hilarity ensues.
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JF_Gophers said:
Imagine the Tigers leading the Indians 3-0 in the 9th inning. Imagine the Tigers pitcher having retired the first 26 batters in order.

Now imagine if you will a grounder between first and second base, fielded by the first baseman and thrown to the pitcher for an out by a good 2 steps.

Now lets say the Umpire calls that runner safe....
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First of all, I haven't seen the play... So I am not gonna comment on Joyce's actual call yet...

But if you are gonna rip on him, how about we tell the situation like it is... At the MLB Level, 1/2 step is a hell of a lot faster than many people here can comprehend... It's a hell of a lot tougher than many people think to call safe/out...
 
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RaceBoarder said:
First of all, I haven't seen the play... So I am not gonna comment on Joyce's actual call yet...

But if you are gonna rip on him, how about we tell the situation like it is... At the MLB Level, 1/2 step is a hell of a lot faster than many people here can comprehend... It's a hell of a lot tougher than many people think to call safe/out...
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It was a very clear blown call.
 
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I love the reaction from the Cleveland dugout...and the trainer guy who can't believe he called him safe.
 
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Oh, and guess who is scheduled to work the plate for tomorrow's game?
 
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RaceBoarder said:
First of all, I haven't seen the play... So I am not gonna comment on Joyce's actual call yet...

But if you are gonna rip on him, how about we tell the situation like it is... At the MLB Level, 1/2 step is a hell of a lot faster than many people here can comprehend... It's a hell of a lot tougher than many people think to call safe/out...
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Half a step is close, but not really all that close. It's a call that is made correctly 99.9% of the time. I umpire baseball games, so I totally feel for Jim Joyce right now. Still, he made a bad call, and he's going to have to live with it.
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
It really isn't that close. Not by MLB standards.
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After seeing it in real time from a couple angles, it was close.

On the slo-mo replay, sure it's not even close to close.

Now, I'm not saying this is the correct way to do things, but I would think that the ump would favor calling an out in that particular situation, if only to avoid something like this. Kinda like a scorekeeper bending the scoring rules a bit to keep a no-hitter, etc.
 
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