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Minnesota Women's Hockey 2016-2017 (aka Season 20)

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I would not at all have had any sort of issue with Kessel returning other than it was announced that she had retired. If no one uses "retired" in the description of why she didn't play, I'm fine with that. The word "retired" tells me she's is done playing college hockey, she might as well have graduated. End of discussion. As a Badger fan, I was relieved that UW didn't have to contend with her, it made the rodents easier to beat. (And that is a complement of Kessel to the highest degree. She was a player to be feared when she was at the top of her game.) To prove that, UW was 2-0 against the Kessel-less rodents and 1-3 against the rodents with Kessel. Just don't use word "retire" and my brain doesn't explode. Peace out.

As I said: dumb and churlish.
 
That's could be a side affect of the paint thinner as well...

Look at the bright side, you'll very likely be witnessing your squad pound BC or some other eastern sacrificial lamb this year. :)

Clarkson 5 Minnesota 4
You need to be reminded that you, too, are human.
 
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Clarkson 5 Minnesota 4
You need to be reminded that you, too, are human.

Naw, we don't really need reminding these days, I don't think :p
 
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In the ongoing theme of ridiculousness, since she only played 3 1/2 years maybe Kessel should be allowed to come back as a replacement for Cameranesi for the rest of this season. Can she get out of her contract with New York? It would be fun just to see the outcry from the poor little put upon Badger fans. But even more as a Sonmor-like Gopher fan I'd love to see a P P K line play. :D
 
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You're focused on rules, which most will agree don't fit every situation, thus the waiver process. I'm suggesting that those who are capable of doing so focus on the bigger picture and what is actually happening in a young woman's life.

I think I'm focused on you guys drawing a comparison of two situations which are very different in the exact circumstances being compared.
 
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Gophers had an 18 game unbeaten streak (including 14 straight wins) against the Badgers. That would make any fan of a top notch program a little cranky :D

While the national championships are more desirable, I think the above is the most amazing of all GWH's recent accomplishments!
 
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Gophers had an 18 game unbeaten streak (including 14 straight wins) against the Badgers. That would make any fan of a top notch program a little cranky :D

While the national championships are more desirable, I think the above is the most amazing of all GWH's recent accomplishments!

14 straight wins! Amazing! You'd think after that they would have stayed down in their hole and just put out a white flag whenever a Gopher showed up.:p
 
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Then I don't understand mentioning Pankowski to Timothy in regard to Kessel.

His objection (if you want to put it that way) is that Kessel needed a way around the 'five year rule' (justified or otherwise) to play in 2016. Mentioning Pankowski playing in 2018-2019 would in no way be comparable; it would still be within her five years.

So why would he, or should he, have any Kessel-like discomfort with Pankowski playing in her fifth year?

(And before Gopher fans jump on me, I'm A-OK with Kessel having gotten to play in a sixth year. I'm just pointing out that you guys seem to be making a false comparison.)

I suggest that rather than sit behind the Badger bench at both the final reg season games and WCHA tourney, Badger fans sit under the NCAA championship banner (this is directly across from the Badger bench) and consequently will not have to look at it. This can be your safe zone.

The best site I have ever seen for explaining NCAA eligibilty was a Canadian site explaining and advising prospective players:
http://www.playyourgame.com/ncaa_eligibility_explained.html

BTW, here is a link to the NCAA vote on Kessel's waiver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn-zIV4mVrk
 
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I suggest that rather than sit behind the Badger bench at both the final reg season games and WCHA tourney, Badger fans sit under the NCAA championship banner (this is directly across from the Badger bench) and consequently will not have to look at it. This can be your safe zone.

The best site I have ever seen for explaining NCAA eligibilty was a Canadian site explaining and advising prospective players:
http://www.playyourgame.com/ncaa_eligibility_explained.html

BTW, here is a link to the NCAA vote on Kessel's waiver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn-zIV4mVrk

I think you have me confused with Timothy. I don't sit behind the Badger bench, he does. I have NO PROBLEM with Kessel playing in her sixth year.

Once more, I was pointing out that bringing up Pankowski as a counterpoint to Kessel's situation was and is an inapt comparison. When Pankowski is playing in the 2020 Final Four, then she will be in a similar situation. Until, then, not so much.
 
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The Gophers won today despite playing one of the poorest periods (the 3rd) of the season. Yes, hard to get fired up for a team you've dominated forever, and I'm sure they'll be more motivated and play much better next weekend...including in goal.
 
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I think you have me confused with Timothy. I don't sit behind the Badger bench, he does. I have NO PROBLEM with Kessel playing in her sixth year.

Once more, I was pointing out that bringing up Pankowski as a counterpoint to Kessel's situation was and is an inapt comparison. When Pankowski is playing in the 2020 Final Four, then she will be in a similar situation. Until, then, not so much.

Fair enough, you are correct, it would take 3 years of what ifs for Pankowski’s situation to be the same as Kessel’s
I do take issue with you referring to the 5 year rule though, it is not a hard and fast rule.
I don’t follow college football, but isn’t there a few Big Ten football players that have either played a 6th year or are trying to (Michigan or Michigan St)
And I seem to recall a player a few years back who had an exemption for religious reasons, he had served in ministry overseas, required by his religion.
And there was a MN hockey player around 1970 or so who attended school for a year, was either drafted or enlisted in the military and returned to play for MN.
NCAA rules specifically give exemptions for players who serve their country or religion from the 5 year rule. My assumption is that Kessel qualified for this by serving her country on the Olympic team, maybe I’m wrong.
But it would be interesting to know if players would bypass the Olympic team or their 4th year of eligibility if such were not the case. They always have to keep in mind injury is a possibility that might cost them, and I would think the coach isn’t going to honor their scholarship if they aren’t returning to play. That would be a big financial hit, to pay for your final year of school, what’s that, about $25K at a State school?
 
Re: Minnesota Women's Hockey 2016-2017 (aka Season 20)

In the ongoing theme of ridiculousness, since she only played 3 1/2 years maybe Kessel should be allowed to come back as a replacement for Cameranesi for the rest of this season.
I'll settle for Cameranesi coming back as a replacement for herself. :) Someone will complain about that, too, I suppose, even though I've never heard anyone associated with UM say that 21 is done.
 
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The Gophers won today despite playing one of the poorest periods (the 3rd) of the season. Yes, hard to get fired up for a team you've dominated forever, and I'm sure they'll be more motivated and play much better next weekend...including in goal.

It looked like they were already headed back up Hwy 169 for the third period. MSU's second goal was about as soft a goal as a goalie can give up but as we have seen far too often this year, Gopher goaltenders have given those up.
 
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Through four periods this weekend, the Gophers played well but not great. Too many bad turnovers and too much poor defensive zone play that would have been punished by the teams they'll play the rest of the way. It's nice that they've figured out how to score, finally, but that's only half of the issues.

Things went downhill after that. A minute and a half into the second period, MSU's Megan Hinze went down along the boards and was put on a backboard and pulled off of the ice after a lengthy delay. I didn't see what happened, but there weren't any of the reactions you'd have expected if it were the result of a dirty play, so my guess is that it was pretty innocent. That, along with the four goal lead, sucked the intensity out of the game, and it never felt like either team got it back. So, the Gophers did play poorly in the third and deserved to have the lead cut down, but I'm not sure we should make much of that. It doesn't change my opinion that positive things have happened the last couple of weeks and that, while they clearly aren't ready for playoff hockey, they've pulled the chute and arrested the free fall they were in.

I'm really not sure what to make of this team, since, with the exception of Kelly Pannek, it feels like the upperclassmen have been the source of most of the disappointment. Kate Schipper has started scoring, at least. Robinson and Marshall are two of the three most consistent defensemen, though both had some shaky moments today.

Let's see what happens next week against UND before me make any long term plans.
 
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Just got home from the men's game. Nice to see both Gopher teams score 10 goals this weekend. That was the best the men have played in at least two years at least for a whole weekend.

It was great to see the women come out fast both games and not give up the first goal this weekend, but then the 3rd period was not good. Two soft goals and a defensive breakdown that led to the third. Schipper made a big difference being out there though and Piazza, too.

Nice article about (I almost typed Laura) Emma May in the Pioneer Press today. Goalies are required to be, as Emma admits, "a little weird."
 
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I'll settle for Cameranesi coming back as a replacement for herself. :) Someone will complain about that, too, I suppose, even though I've never heard anyone associated with UM say that 21 is done.

I'd settle for Cameranesi to be back, too. Coach Frost said on the pregame interview with Dan H that she may be back, docs might say 4-6 weeks, but who knows.
 
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The Gophers are better than the Mavericks. I don't think this is much in the way of news, it seems like everyone, including all of the players, already knew this. Someone raise your hand if you are actually surprised by the outcomes of the two games.

Schipper makes a difference, Piazza makes a difference.

Peters was mostly pretty good, giving up only one goal in four periods, that one on a shot to an area that everyone in women's hockey already knows is a weakness for her.

D'Angelo on Friday had one of her better outings but I am not going to make too much out of a 3 save performance.

On Saturday we witnessed what I take to be a pretty definitive end to the Emma May Moment.

The Gophers will play all of the games for the next four weekends in the friendly confines of Ridder Arena. Crunch time has officially arrived.
 
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