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Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
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Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
I don't know enough about the situation in Mankato, but are you talking about changing some lines up or a coaching change? I know this isn't going to make Maverick fans feel any better, but Coach Muzerall said after Friday's game that it was the best game she had seen our team play in her four seasons here. And Saturday's game was much more competitive than Friday's despite the 8-4 score. I understand your pain. Us Ohio State fans were there not that long ago.
I don't know enough about the situation in Mankato, but are you talking about changing some lines up or a coaching change? I know this isn't going to make Maverick fans feel any better, but Coach Muzerall said after Friday's game that it was the best game she had seen our team play in her four seasons here. And Saturday's game was much more competitive than Friday's despite the 8-4 score. I understand your pain. Us Ohio State fans were there not that long ago.
Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
Mainly the culture has to change. There are some very good players on this team but it seems like sometimes there is more of an emphasis on individual play and not a focus on team play.
When the Mavericks play as a team, they are tough to beat. The best teams in this league pass well and often. The Mavericks have a tendency to carry the puck too long, especially out of the D zone which creates more turnovers than opportunities.
Lots of talent on this team.
Mainly the culture has to change. There are some very good players on this team but it seems like sometimes there is more of an emphasis on individual play and not a focus on team play.
When the Mavericks play as a team, they are tough to beat. The best teams in this league pass well and often. The Mavericks have a tendency to carry the puck too long, especially out of the D zone which creates more turnovers than opportunities.
Lots of talent on this team.
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Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
The WCHA as a whole can be defined the same way. If any team on a given night decides to play like a team they can beat anyone. If any team decides they want to be individuals and turn the puck over constantly, the result will be a loss. Especially from the back end. The top two teams are not immune to this either.
The WCHA as a whole can be defined the same way. If any team on a given night decides to play like a team they can beat anyone. If any team decides they want to be individuals and turn the puck over constantly, the result will be a loss. Especially from the back end. The top two teams are not immune to this either.
bluffrinkrat
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Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
Mavericks up 2-0 on 3 shots on goal at the end of the 1st period. The game is being broadcast on Fox Sports North. 15-3 on shots in the 2nd so far with the Mavs on a power play.
3-0 now at the end of 2.
Final: 3-1 Mavs despite the 5 minute major called against them toward the end of the game.
Mavericks up 2-0 on 3 shots on goal at the end of the 1st period. The game is being broadcast on Fox Sports North. 15-3 on shots in the 2nd so far with the Mavs on a power play.
3-0 now at the end of 2.
Final: 3-1 Mavs despite the 5 minute major called against them toward the end of the game.
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And if you watched the game, they called the penalty off of a review. They still got it wrong. There was a discussion between refs and you could see the refs did not agree at all. The refs of the WCHA need to get rid of their rabbit ears and call the game.
And if you watched the game, they called the penalty off of a review. They still got it wrong. There was a discussion between refs and you could see the refs did not agree at all. The refs of the WCHA need to get rid of their rabbit ears and call the game.
robertearle
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Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
The TV announcers said that, but I doubt it; I don't think refs can call a penalty off a replay. Much more likely is they called a penalty 'live', and then reviewed and discussed "two vs five".
The TV announcers said that, but I doubt it; I don't think refs can call a penalty off a replay. Much more likely is they called a penalty 'live', and then reviewed and discussed "two vs five".
FiveHoleFrenzy
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Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
You are correct that no call was made initially, but how they got that wrong off of replay is a mystery to me.
You are correct that no call was made initially, but how they got that wrong off of replay is a mystery to me.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
There definitely was no call initially, because the "offending" player went to the bench and sat down while they were reviewing. Harrington showed a lot more restraint than most coaches would have with a call that was so wrong and had the potential to decide the game.
There definitely was no call initially, because the "offending" player went to the bench and sat down while they were reviewing. Harrington showed a lot more restraint than most coaches would have with a call that was so wrong and had the potential to decide the game.
Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
I know we all complain about officiating but at some point there has to be a move made by the WCHA to improve the level that we get. I do not believe that women should be officiating because they are women but instead get in position because of the quality and ability. Flowers was present at this game, I doubt it will happen but I hope she takes a look at this (as well as other calls i.e. Roque no call) and take a look at how this can be improved. We want to say we are the best conference yet it seems like we don't have the best refs. I am not trying to beat them up but maybe we could provide additional training and guidance?
I know we all complain about officiating but at some point there has to be a move made by the WCHA to improve the level that we get. I do not believe that women should be officiating because they are women but instead get in position because of the quality and ability. Flowers was present at this game, I doubt it will happen but I hope she takes a look at this (as well as other calls i.e. Roque no call) and take a look at how this can be improved. We want to say we are the best conference yet it seems like we don't have the best refs. I am not trying to beat them up but maybe we could provide additional training and guidance?
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
We complain about our officials, because as fans, that's what we do. But when I watch a game with Hockey East or CHA refs, I'm left feeling that I would rather have WCHA refs. There are just too many times where they insert themselves into a game where they shouldn't. For example, they'll call absolutely everything, and the game has zero flow. Or they'll whistle six straight penalties on one team, and then they'll try to even it up by reversing their calls. Momentum is created by the officials, rather than by the players. We've all remarked on a number of WCHA games where there are few to no penalties called, but I much prefer that to the case of players trying to skate on eggshells because no contact of any kind is allowed. People complain about Robert Ludwig, but he's pretty consistent. The players know that he won't call much, he'd prefer that they decide the game, but he'll make a call if forced to do so. The players at least have a solid idea of what he will and won't call. I think that is all that we can really ask for. So many of the other "missed" calls come down to what color lenses we view a game through.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
Tons of interference kills the flow of the game too, and players getting tripped in the slot as they are about to shoot does not create exciting play. This year it seems like the players are interfering less, for whatever reason I do not know. If the refs called it tight all the time, the players would adjust. Evening up calls is total BS. The better team should get more pp's because overmatched players try and stop them illegally.
Tons of interference kills the flow of the game too, and players getting tripped in the slot as they are about to shoot does not create exciting play. This year it seems like the players are interfering less, for whatever reason I do not know. If the refs called it tight all the time, the players would adjust. Evening up calls is total BS. The better team should get more pp's because overmatched players try and stop them illegally.
Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
Thanks for the input and point taken on previous two posts. In the end, I agree, we all complain but I will agree that WCHA officiating is better than the others. There is a saying as a ref that "at the end of the game, if they don't know who we are, we have done a good job". I guess I am just stuck on the fact that a penalty was called off of a replay and they still got it wrong but everything played out and in the end and officiating did not change the outcome is what we all want. Great discussion.
Thanks for the input and point taken on previous two posts. In the end, I agree, we all complain but I will agree that WCHA officiating is better than the others. There is a saying as a ref that "at the end of the game, if they don't know who we are, we have done a good job". I guess I am just stuck on the fact that a penalty was called off of a replay and they still got it wrong but everything played out and in the end and officiating did not change the outcome is what we all want. Great discussion.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Minnesota State 2019-2020 Charging Forward
I am glad MSU didn't get screwed by that bad call.
I am glad MSU didn't get screwed by that bad call.
I would have to agree with this.