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Michigan Tech Offseason 2014: Nothing To Say

Re: Michigan Tech Offseason 2014: Nothing To Say

It is going to be a crowded roster again if nobody leaves.
Should make the depth even better.
Dare I say 3 scoring lines and an energy shutdown type of line next year.

The D should also get a good skater in Auk and a punisher in Schuldt.

I love summer, but hate the wait for hockey again....
 
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I think the other injury is Dane Birks for potential incoming players...
 
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Pietila was a -4 this season. He's not ready for the Devils system. ;)

Kidding aside, if NJ are serious about signing him and putting him in the AHL, I think he's gone. If they are just going to stick him in the ECHL, he is better off staying, and I hope he recognizes that. Phillips is only a flight risk if Winnipeg wants to him to get more playing time somewhere. Johnstone, I think, would be signing somewhere if he'd had a fully healthy season and led the team in scoring (as he likely would have). With his Jacob graduating, David's still a flight risk, but less of one because of his injury.

I would say that Blake will be back. He has to get surgery on his wrist. In talking to someone close to the situation, it sounds like NJ GM Lou Lamariello doesn't pressure the college kids too much. He has no problem letting a kid stay another year in school to develop.
 
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I would say that Blake will be back. He has to get surgery on his wrist. In talking to someone close to the situation, it sounds like NJ GM Lou Lamariello doesn't pressure the college kids too much. He has no problem letting a kid stay another year in school to develop.

As far as Lamoriello is concerned, I'd agree - after all, he did coach {PROVICED back in the day. ;)

D. Johnstone is a bit more worrisome.
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason 2014: Nothing To Say

No program can have it both ways. You either recruit players who may have the opportunity to leave early for the next level, or you recruit players who have no choice by to stick around for four years. I know what I'd rather have on my team.

The same can be said for the (in my opinion, ridiculous) discussion of player improvement over four years. If the new coaching staff is successful in recruiting a higher level player (which is what we want), then as that happens in the first few years, and better and better players are being brought in, then there is less time available for some of the upperclassmen who were at one time the best on the team. Another case of not being able to have it both ways.

If I have time this weekend, maybe I'll actually chart productivity by season for 4 year players for a variety of teams, preferably normalized by playing time to account for recruiting progress. If something can be quantified before it's argued, then it should be.
 
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No program can have it both ways. You either recruit players who may have the opportunity to leave early for the next level, or you recruit players who have no choice by to stick around for four years. I know what I'd rather have on my team.

The same can be said for the (in my opinion, ridiculous) discussion of player improvement over four years. If the new coaching staff is successful in recruiting a higher level player (which is what we want), then as that happens in the first few years, and better and better players are being brought in, then there is less time available for some of the upperclassmen who were at one time the best on the team. Another case of not being able to have it both ways.

If I have time this weekend, maybe I'll actually chart productivity by season for 4 year players for a variety of teams, preferably normalized by playing time to account for recruiting progress. If something can be quantified before it's argued, then it should be.
Let's take a look at the producers:

Blake Pietila 35 14-10-24, 39 8-20-28
Alex Petan 37 15-19-34, 39 11-17-28
Tanner Kero 33 11-13-24, 40 15-10-25
David Johnstone 32 10-19-29, 25 11-9-20

Shouldn't we expect improvement from these guys? Granted DJ had the injury but Petan and Pietila regressed in goals. All of them regressed in points per game.
 
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Let's take a look at the producers:

Blake Pietila 35 14-10-24, 39 8-20-28
Alex Petan 37 15-19-34, 39 11-17-28
Tanner Kero 33 11-13-24, 40 15-10-25
David Johnstone 32 10-19-29, 25 11-9-20

Shouldn't we expect improvement from these guys? Granted DJ had the injury but Petan and Pietila regressed in goals. All of them regressed in points per game.

And there should be plenty more. It has been happening at least since like 2004-2005 timeframe.
 
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Mel said on the radio show this morning, there were a few injuries to the players thinking about coming in this fall.
That might change the plans and have a couple play another year of junior hockey. Not sure what this means??
Can anyone enlighten on prospects locked in, L'Esperance, Blacklock, Gillies, Hannoun, Jackson, Anderson, Schuldt, Auk for next year?
Jackson, Blacklock, Roy (I think) and Rostagno had injury issues this season. Rostagno is still a few years out so I don't think he's coming in...

I had Blacklock, Anderson, Steman, Jackson, Gillies and L'Esperance coming in as forwards for next year.
Plus Schuldt and Birks on defense.
Schuldt and Auk are the oldest but with Birks being drafted I'm not sure how long he can stay in the BCHL. Birks didn't improve much statistically so maybe he can stay there another year...
The only thing that is for sure is that Schuldt must come in this season...he's the oldest recruit on the board. I'd also expect Evan Anderson, Dyland Steman to come in based on age and results last year. Alex Gillies and Joel L'Esperance seem like locks based on their success and my previous expectation that they will be joining the Huskies. If neither Blacklock nor Jackson comes this year, I would think they are most likely to be replaced with Trevor Cope who had a good year in the OJHL and Jake Kauppila. Hannoun is also a possibility but he's younger so I'm not sure they'd bump him...but its quite possible.
 
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Here are the recruits stats that I have. Joe Schuldt's time was split between USHL and NAHL.

I'm excited for Gillies and L'Esperance next year. Should add some offense.

Player GP G A Points
Zach Jordan-RW 19 2 3 5
Cooper Watson-D 22 0 1 1
Chris Gerrie-LC 62 19 36 55
Jake Gingell-D 34 2 9 11
Mason Blacklock-LC 28 18 12 30
Mitch Reinke-RD 28 5 14 19
Demico Hannoun-RC 54 16 32 49
Mark Evan Auk-LD 52 9 19 28
Trevor Cope-LW 39 18 28 46
Alex Gillies-LW 46 28 30 58
Travis Brown-RD 26 6 27 33
Jake Jackson-F 35 2 6 8
Brett Boeing-LW 45 9 16 25
Dane Birks-RD 50 4 17 21
Tristan Rostagno-LD 17 1 1 2
Dylan Steman-LW 49 12 16 28
Evan Anderson-LW 46 21 31 52
Joe Schuldt-D 40 4 2 6
Joel L'Esperance-C 53 25 18 43
Jake Kauppila-LW 59 14 22 36
Angus Redmond-G 32 3.33 0.899
Devin Kero 40 2.48 0.918
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason 2014: Nothing To Say

Here are the recruits stats that I have. Joe Schuldt's time was split between USHL and NAHL.

I'm excited for Gillies and L'Esperance next year. Should add some offense.

Player GP G A Points
Zach Jordan-RW 19 2 3 5
Cooper Watson-D 22 0 1 1
Chris Gerrie-LC 62 19 36 55
Jake Gingell-D 34 2 9 11
Mason Blacklock-LC 28 18 12 30
Mitch Reinke-RD 28 5 14 19
Demico Hannoun-RC 54 16 32 49
Mark Evan Auk-LD 52 9 19 28
Trevor Cope-LW 39 18 28 46
Alex Gillies-LW 46 28 30 58
Travis Brown-RD 26 6 27 33
Jake Jackson-F 35 2 6 8
Brett Boeing-LW 45 9 16 25
Dane Birks-RD 50 4 17 21
Tristan Rostagno-LD 17 1 1 2
Dylan Steman-LW 49 12 16 28
Evan Anderson-LW 46 21 31 52
Joe Schuldt-D 40 4 2 6
Joel L'Esperance-C 53 25 18 43
Jake Kauppila-LW 59 14 22 36
Angus Redmond-G 32 3.33 0.899
Devin Kero 40 2.48 0.918
Sorry, I could have saved you the trouble, used that data to make my post...It's so nice to see so many guys earning a near or above a point per game not to mention a goal in 3/10 or better. I'm really interested to see how Chris Gerrie develops, wonder if he'll move over to the BCHL.
 
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Are we bringing in more goals than we are losing? Are we going to be better defensively? Can we get more secondary scoring? Will goaltending be more consistent?
How are we compared to other teams in our league on a recruiting basis?
 
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Let's take a look at the producers:

Blake Pietila 35 14-10-24, 39 8-20-28
Alex Petan 37 15-19-34, 39 11-17-28
Tanner Kero 33 11-13-24, 40 15-10-25
David Johnstone 32 10-19-29, 25 11-9-20

Shouldn't we expect improvement from these guys? Granted DJ had the injury but Petan and Pietila regressed in goals. All of them regressed in points per game.

Pietila did not regress in points per game by the way, Kero and DJ actually both increased in goals which is improvement, and it's pretty apparent to me on why both Petan and this team struggled from last year. Reason number one being Jujar Khaira who assisted on over half of Petans goals last year and created a tremendous amount of time and space for Petan that was very apparently lacking this year. He was also a major reason, along with Steven Seigo, why the power play operated at 21% compared to 15% this year (along with very little creativity or movement).

Can you honestly expect any better results from a team that lost possibly their most dominant forward from last year, who's captain played banged up since game one because he didn't want to end his year with surgery, who's 3 best defensemen are freshman (and all but one of the rest sat the stands for either short or long periods of time throughout the year) and can't get consistency from either of their starting goaltenders?

They were a team that was five forwards deep for their top six, a few defensemen and a consistent goaltender short of being a good team. They were predicted fourth by the coaches (just going on a limb but I want to say the coaches poll has been fairly accurate on predicting tech's finishes in the past, typically within a place or two, granted it's been a relatively easy prediction), they lost fourth by one point, got fifth, and lost in the playoffs to the team that beat them out of fourth. How is this under achieving? Maybe it's unrealistic expectations.

They met expectations and possibly overachieved IMO with the loss of Khaira, and early season injuries to Blake and DJ. In college hockey a coach is essentially the coach and GM as he's responsible for the talent pipeline as well. In my opinion, from following tech's recruiting for the past 15 years, this is by far the most talent that tech has ever assembled in their system, which is a credit to the GM. I can forsee Tech finally having a solid six D corps in 2-3 years , which Tech has not had in the past 20 years. We'll see how it pans out but I'd be surprised if there isn't improvement. Regarding entertainment value, there is no comparison in watching these Pearson teams compared to the Russell era. Regarding goaltending, I'd not be surprised to see Kero as their starter at some point next year if Copley can't get it together. From what I've heard Phillips is a good as gone and if Winches? didnt' get playing time this year with basically a wide open door at times, I really can't see him threatening next year. So worst case Kero's number two but Copleys been inconsistent for two years now.
 
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Pietila did not regress in points per game by the way, Kero and DJ actually both increased in goals which is improvement, and it's pretty apparent to me on why both Petan and this team struggled from last year. Reason number one being Jujar Khaira who assisted on over half of Petans goals last year and created a tremendous amount of time and space for Petan that was very apparently lacking this year. He was also a major reason, along with Steven Seigo, why the power play operated at 21% compared to 15% this year (along with very little creativity or movement).

Can you honestly expect any better results from a team that lost possibly their most dominant forward from last year, who's captain played banged up since game one because he didn't want to end his year with surgery, who's 3 best defensemen are freshman (and all but one of the rest sat the stands for either short or long periods of time throughout the year) and can't get consistency from either of their starting goaltenders?

They were a team that was five forwards deep for their top six, a few defensemen and a consistent goaltender short of being a good team. They were predicted fourth by the coaches (just going on a limb but I want to say the coaches poll has been fairly accurate on predicting tech's finishes in the past, typically within a place or two, granted it's been a relatively easy prediction), they lost fourth by one point, got fifth, and lost in the playoffs to the team that beat them out of fourth. How is this under achieving? Maybe it's unrealistic expectations.

They met expectations and possibly overachieved IMO with the loss of Khaira, and early season injuries to Blake and DJ. In college hockey a coach is essentially the coach and GM as he's responsible for the talent pipeline as well. In my opinion, from following tech's recruiting for the past 15 years, this is by far the most talent that tech has ever assembled in their system, which is a credit to the GM. I can forsee Tech finally having a solid six D corps in 2-3 years , which Tech has not had in the past 20 years. We'll see how it pans out but I'd be surprised if there isn't improvement. Regarding entertainment value, there is no comparison in watching these Pearson teams compared to the Russell era. Regarding goaltending, I'd not be surprised to see Kero as their starter at some point next year if Copley can't get it together. From what I've heard Phillips is a good as gone and if Winches? didnt' get playing time this year with basically a wide open door at times, I really can't see him threatening next year. So worst case Kero's number two but Copleys been inconsistent for two years now.

Quite well said and welcome back JSR!.

And here's another subject to ponder. Now that Mel has been here 3 years, can he still recruit with the same success down the line?
I like the pipeline and so forth but I'm worried that without more wins recruiting might suffer.
 
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Per Craig Morgan of Fox Sports Arizona on twitter @cmorganfoxaz

Sources: NCAA free agent hockey signings: Alaska F Cody Kunyk expected to sign w/Tampa; Michigan Tech G Pheonix Copley to sign w/Washington
 
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Pietila did not regress in points per game by the way, Kero and DJ actually both increased in goals which is improvement, and it's pretty apparent to me on why both Petan and this team struggled from last year. Reason number one being Jujar Khaira who assisted on over half of Petans goals last year and created a tremendous amount of time and space for Petan that was very apparently lacking this year. He was also a major reason, along with Steven Seigo, why the power play operated at 21% compared to 15% this year (along with very little creativity or movement).

Can you honestly expect any better results from a team that lost possibly their most dominant forward from last year, who's captain played banged up since game one because he didn't want to end his year with surgery, who's 3 best defensemen are freshman (and all but one of the rest sat the stands for either short or long periods of time throughout the year) and can't get consistency from either of their starting goaltenders?

They were a team that was five forwards deep for their top six, a few defensemen and a consistent goaltender short of being a good team. They were predicted fourth by the coaches (just going on a limb but I want to say the coaches poll has been fairly accurate on predicting tech's finishes in the past, typically within a place or two, granted it's been a relatively easy prediction), they lost fourth by one point, got fifth, and lost in the playoffs to the team that beat them out of fourth. How is this under achieving? Maybe it's unrealistic expectations.

They met expectations and possibly overachieved IMO with the loss of Khaira, and early season injuries to Blake and DJ. In college hockey a coach is essentially the coach and GM as he's responsible for the talent pipeline as well. In my opinion, from following tech's recruiting for the past 15 years, this is by far the most talent that tech has ever assembled in their system, which is a credit to the GM. I can forsee Tech finally having a solid six D corps in 2-3 years , which Tech has not had in the past 20 years. We'll see how it pans out but I'd be surprised if there isn't improvement. Regarding entertainment value, there is no comparison in watching these Pearson teams compared to the Russell era. Regarding goaltending, I'd not be surprised to see Kero as their starter at some point next year if Copley can't get it together. From what I've heard Phillips is a good as gone and if Winches? didnt' get playing time this year with basically a wide open door at times, I really can't see him threatening next year. So worst case Kero's number two but Copleys been inconsistent for two years now.
You off all people making excuses is quite funny. This is college hockey, if you're doing things right, you're typically losing the best players each year. Losing Khaira certainly sucked but Minnesota State lost Eriah Hayes. You don't think he was a huge part of their offense but they managed to finish 2nd and guys like Bryce Gervais (8-5-13 to 15-8-23) and Johnny McInnis (13-9-22 to 20-16-36) stepped up their game.

I'm not saying we're headed in the wrong direction and yes I got lazy in my previous analysis generalizing that they all regressed on Pts/Gm basis. I'm just pointing out that we didn't really see anyone progress statistically. CJ Eick is the only guy who drastically increased his point total going from 3-4-7 in 36 to 5-13-18 in 40.

I love what I see from the pipeline, especially on the blueline. There isn't a single recruit on the blueline. Top to bottom that group should be fun to watch grow from this year's frosh to Cooper Watson, they all have great potential to be special. The future is certainly bright with more draft picks than we saw throughout Russell's tenure. Guys like Alex Gillies, Demico Hannoun, Joel L'Esperance, Chris Gerrie give me hope. Sure seems like there is more fire power lined up, I just want to see that fire power nurtured and continue to develop once they get here.
 
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Re: Michigan Tech Offseason 2014: Nothing To Say

Per Craig Morgan of Fox Sports Arizona on twitter @cmorganfoxaz

Sources: NCAA free agent hockey signings: Alaska F Cody Kunyk expected to sign w/Tampa; Michigan Tech G Pheonix Copley to sign w/Washington

I didn't see that one coming. But then again, I'm not exactly on the inside track with this stuff.
 
Per Craig Morgan of Fox Sports Arizona on twitter @cmorganfoxaz

Sources: NCAA free agent hockey signings: Alaska F Cody Kunyk expected to sign w/Tampa; Michigan Tech G Pheonix Copley to sign w/Washington

I wonder how much Shields' departure had to do with this, possibly leading to the inconsistency this year. I still think it is not a good decision for Copley to leave this early, considering he is getting the bulk of the playing time.
 
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