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MICHIGAN TECH.... 2016-17 season. The 96th season of Hockey.

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Wi.Huskies Fan said:
They played not to lose in this one. They've played better this year that is for sure. Wish they had played a little looser. They just seemed a little tight.
No one seemed to want to be the hero and take control.
Great game by Beef. That leg in the air save should make ESPN highlights of the night.
Make a fresh start at Little Caesars Arena next year.
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I thought our guys worked their butts off but Wmu was really good with sticks in the way, very big and able to muscle us in our end. Some of the time we could dominate play by moving the puck quickly and not allowing them to get the forecheck set up.
I thought the freshmen played ok but they still have a way to go.
In my mind we ran out of gas before wmu did and in the OT, they were gaining the zone easier, and getting a few more looks they weren't getting earlier in the game. I thought that was the difference.
Redmond was very good. and L'esperance was also. We really missed having leibinger up front. And we had a fairly small line up out there, though compared to Wmu everyone is small.There were times when we went off for a change we did not hustle to get off and I think that hurt us some. the pp wasn't good but the pk was excellent.
Also I have a question for shirtless. this game went way past the 5 minute overtime that is the normal OT, and at that point it was still a tie. Why is it that it's considered a loss for pairwise purposes.
 
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It's good to play teams of this caliber and next week is very important. I think we will get better because of this game.
 
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Still disappointing for Western to take our tourney from Tech 2/3, I.e., they win when they get the privilege to play.
BG next year, will UM reload, will State get it going, HNY Tech fans.
 
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manurespreader said:
Also I have a question for shirtless. this game went way past the 5 minute overtime that is the normal OT, and at that point it was still a tie. Why is it that it's considered a loss for pairwise purposes.
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I suspect they'll adjust it correctly in a day or two. It's kind of an odd duck
 
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manurespreader said:
Also I have a question for shirtless. this game went way past the 5 minute overtime that is the normal OT, and at that point it was still a tie. Why is it that it's considered a loss for pairwise purposes.
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If a game has unlimited overtime, then the end result stands. They don't count conference playoff games as ties if they go into extended overtime, so it doesn't make sense for other games with the same format.
 
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MaizeRage said:
If a game has unlimited overtime, then the end result stands. They don't count conference playoff games as ties if they go into extended overtime, so it doesn't make sense for other games with the same format.
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Thanks.
I thought our guys competed hard and you have to give WMU credit they have a lot of talent. We have to do some soul searching on how to get better looks in an environment like that.
 
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Both the Detroit News and Free Press indicated an official tie, with extended OT for tourney purposes?

Which is it actually?
 
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If a game has unlimited overtime, then the end result stands. They don't count conference playoff games as ties if they go into extended overtime, so it doesn't make sense for other games with the same format.
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The Western SID said it counts as a tie after the five minutes
 
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Here is what the NCAA rulebook says about tournament overtime:

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/IH18.pdf

Rule 91 - Tied Games
91.1 Tied Games - If the score is tied at the end of three regulation 20-minute
periods, the following shall take place (Exception: See 91.3):
1. There shall be a two-minute intermission.
2. The teams shall change ends at the end of each period.
3. A five-minute period shall be played.
4. The team that scores first wins and the game is ended. If a goal is not
scored in the five-minute period, the game shall be declared a tie.
5. By conference policy or mutual consent of the participating teams,
4-on-4 is an approved way to play the five-minute overtime period.
6. By conference policy, a five-minute, 3-on-3 overtime may be played,
followed by a sudden-death shootout, may be used.
If either team declines to play in the necessary overtime period, the game
shall be declared a loss for that team.
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91.4 Tied Games - Tournament Competition - Where advancement in a
bracket or the determination of a tournament champion is necessary, any
series in a format (e.g., single game, minigame series) that results in a tie
shall be broken by 20-minute, sudden-death overtime periods (Exception:
See 91.3). The ice shall be resurfaced upon completion of regulation play.
The teams shall change ends at the end of each period (except as indicated
in Rule 90.2). In each overtime, at the first stoppage of play under the ten
minute mark, an ice maintenance timeout of one-minute in duration will
be administered. Teams may return to their benches at this time. Thirdplace
games may follow the overtime procedures as described in Rule 91.
Note: A tied game in a minigame series must use a five-minute overtime period.
If the series is tied after the second game, a 20-minute minigame will be played after
an intermission period. See Appendix A for complete procedures.
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Boys, I think it's a loss for MTU and a win for WMU. It looks like Rule 91.4 provides for a 20-minute overtime instead of the five minute variety outlined in 91.1.
 
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Hammer said:
Here is what the NCAA rulebook says about tournament overtime:

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/IH18.pdf





Boys, I think it's a loss for MTU and a win for WMU. It looks like Rule 91.4 provides for a 20-minute overtime instead of the five minute variety outlined in 91.1.
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It always has been in the past, even when it went to multiple overtimes.
 
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IMHO In order to have the success in the upper echelon they are going to have to put together 1 dominant, go to offensive line. Maybe not used all the time but when you need a goal or two. Maybe to get up early in a game.
Tech has 4 good lines that are somewhat equal. They need at least 1 great line. I feel maybe Heinonen and LEsperance together with a strong offensive center, Luchinni or Smith? I also think moving Lesperance to center with Heinonen and Sturos on wings would be a phenomenal line. Maybe have to put a couple stay at home guys on the blue line but I would like to see what they could do together. Lesperance has been taking a lot of draws and is 3rd in WCHA in face off percentage. (smaller sample size)Just behind Smith. They've got to try something to spark some offense.
 
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rustedblades said:
IMHO In order to have the success in the upper echelon they are going to have to put together 1 dominant, go to offensive line. Maybe not used all the time but when you need a goal or two. Maybe to get up early in a game.
Tech has 4 good lines that are somewhat equal. They need at least 1 great line. I feel maybe Heinonen and LEsperance together with a strong offensive center, Luchinni or Smith? I also think moving Lesperance to center with Heinonen and Sturos on wings would be a phenomenal line. Maybe have to put a couple stay at home guys on the blue line but I would like to see what they could do together. Lesperance has been taking a lot of draws and is 3rd in WCHA in face off percentage. (smaller sample size)Just behind Smith. They've got to try something to spark some offense.
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I was thinking similar, but maybe you put Heinonen, L'esperance and someone else. But I think more than that, last night was more about finding a way through the system. If you noticed the Wmu timeout was right after two consecutive Tech odd man rushes.
I think Wmu played above their mean game last night, compared to the other games i've seen them this year.I thought Gould had our best chance, in the middle of the second, but we were slow to move the puck to someone new all night, and moving it was more difficult than usual.
We are a much improved team over early in the year but we can be better.
 
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Huskiefan906 said:
In fairness to Tyler he needs to be the finisher, I can count on one hand how many times he has been setup for his shot. Just my opinion, but we need to take our guys with offensive upside, put them together and form 2 scoring lines. Should have shortened the bench in OT, probably should have went 3 lines max tonight in OT.

Heinonen Lucchini Jackson
Gould Smith L' Esperance
Gillies Steman GerrIe
Beretta Neville Sturos

Time to give Pedersen, Brice, and Anderson a look.

So disappointing to miss an opportunity, but Western was flying through the neutral zone all night, The Tech D and Beef are to be commended.
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When was the last time MTU Huskies scored a power play goal? I believe someone said back in November. You have arguably one of the best play makers in the Alberta Junior Hockey League, Erik Pedersen, 50 assists in 47 games last season, sitting in the stands. Mel says he's close, why not give him a shot? What have they got to lose?
 
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knuckles said:
When was the last time MTU Huskies scored a power play goal? I believe someone said back in November. You have arguably one of the best play makers in the Alberta Junior Hockey League, Erik Pedersen, 50 assists in 47 games last season, sitting in the stands. Mel says he's close, why not give him a shot? What have they got to lose?
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I trust Mel's assessment but they are definitely hurting without Baltus, Steman, and now Reinke.

Evan Anderson isn't getting playing time either and put up 50 points in his last season in the BCHL.
 
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knuckles said:
When was the last time MTU Huskies scored a power play goal? I believe someone said back in November. You have arguably one of the best play makers in the Alberta Junior Hockey League, Erik Pedersen, 50 assists in 47 games last season, sitting in the stands. Mel says he's close, why not give him a shot? What have they got to lose?
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Unfortunately junior success doesn't always translate to the college game. Like Shirtless says the coach has been pretty good at judging a players readiness. I'm sure if he felt Pedersen could replace one of the existing guys he'd be in.
 
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Yep, it was November - the Friday game at UAF.

I can't figure it out either. It's time to shake-up the 1st and 2nd PP units. I agree Steman is a sizable loss, but someone has to step up.
 
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Is it too early to get excited about watching the Huskies on TV two weeks in a row (with the sound off and Dirk keeping me company, of course)? Two independent sources indicate the ND series will be on NBCSN.
 
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foser said:
Is it too early to get excited about watching the Huskies on TV two weeks in a row (with the sound off and Dirk keeping me company, of course)? Two independent sources indicate the ND series will be on NBCSN.
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That'll be great, as long as they win. :D
 
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