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Michigan Tech 2015 off-season I: Building on what we've learned...

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UpNorthHockey said:
I'm generally positive on the Shuchuck hiring. He was probably the strongest applicant and brings a lot to the table. To be clear, I don't think Eaves wanted to fire him. I believe Alvarez told Eaves to clean house. Shuchuck has decent recruiting connections by all accounts and brought some great players to Wisconsin prior to the current drought. He was behind the bench with some very strong Badger teams (13/14). I do wonder if he'll be a good fit with the lower key pair of Pearson/Shawhan, but Billy Muckalt wasn't exactly low key either. That said, Shuchuck wasn't on my radar and I'm still adjusting to the shock. It's hard to think of Shuchuck coaching anywhere other than Wisconsin.
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Seems to me The Mel jumped at this hire because he really wanted him.
 
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WiscTJK said:
I am not that kind. Hated the hire when Eaves hired him, and glad to see him go, I just wish his poor recruiting and coaching would have cost Eaves his job too. But I am just an idiot fan to him, so whatever. That's the best I can manage. Maybe Alex can transfer too. Good luck with the hire....
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I don't want to hyjack this thread, but.....I blames Eaves 100% for what happened with Schuey. As a leader you have to put qualified workers in situations where they can succeed. Eaves took an unqualified guy and put him in a position where he could not succeed. I can't blame Schuey for applying for the UW job, why not give it a whirl? Now he has experience, and he's working for a coach who is better than Eaves, so he will learn a lot from Mel. We both agree Eaves should have got the boot.
 
UpNorthHockey said:
I'm generally positive on the Shuchuck hiring. He was probably the strongest applicant and brings a lot to the table. To be clear, I don't think Eaves wanted to fire him. I believe Alvarez told Eaves to clean house. Shuchuck has decent recruiting connections by all accounts and brought some great players to Wisconsin prior to the current drought. He was behind the bench with some very strong Badger teams (13/14). I do wonder if he'll be a good fit with the lower key pair of Pearson/Shawhan, but Billy Muckalt wasn't exactly low key either. That said, Shuchuck wasn't on my radar and I'm still adjusting to the shock. It's hard to think of Shuchuck coaching anywhere other than Wisconsin.
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How do you define drought? Didn't the Badgers win conference championships in 13 & 14 and go to the NCAAs?
 
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giwan said:
Seems to me The Mel jumped at this hire because he really wanted him.
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That does seem likely. Mel is in a position to know what the problem was down in Madison and he obviously didn't think Shuchuk was part of the problem. I wonder of Shuchuck will pull any top talent with him from his recruiting pipeline? He seems like a great replacement for Muckalt, as the two both have NHL pedigrees and similar styles. The more I learn about Shuchuck, the better I think this hire is. Having lived in Madison, I'll bet Shuchuck's "idiot fan" comment ended up in the plus column during the interview process at Tech.
 
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UpNorthHockey said:
That does seem likely. Mel is in a position to know what the problem was down in Madison and he obviously didn't think Shuchuk was part of the problem. I wonder of Shuchuck will pull any top talent with him from his recruiting pipeline? He seems like a great replacement for Muckalt, as the two both have NHL pedigrees and similar styles. The more I learn about Shuchuck, the better I think this hire is. Having lived in Madison, I'll bet Shuchuck's "idiot fan" comment ended up in the plus column during the interview process at Tech.
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Have you seen the list of Wisconsin's prospects? Not much "top talent" to pull. Maybe the kid that Tech was after from Mahtomedi, that recently committed there.
 
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davyd83 said:
How do you define drought? Didn't the Badgers win conference championships in 13 & 14 and go to the NCAAs?
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I think Eaves let the team get into a situation where they fell into a major recruiting trough. With his experience and Wisconsin's drawing power, that should be avoidable. You obviously need a mix of 1 or 2 and done players, stronger 4 year players and players who you will need to develop during their 4 years. Granted, some of it is bad luck, but in my opinion, Wisconsin set themselves up by loading up on short-timers and youngsters. The recruiting issues that caused last season had to have been a few years in the making and I don't think the drought's going to end this year. Their blue chip goalie recruit and star defenseman just bolted when the cupboard was already pretty bare. For a B1G team with the recruiting advantages and performance history of Wisconsin, I call this a drought.
 
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UpNorthHockey said:
I think Eaves let the team get into a situation where they fell into a major recruiting trough. With his experience and Wisconsin's drawing power, that should be avoidable. You obviously need a mix of 1 or 2 and done players, stronger 4 year players and players who you will need to develop during their 4 years. Granted, some of it is bad luck, but in my opinion, Wisconsin set themselves up by loading up on short-timers and youngsters. The recruiting issues that caused last season had to have been a few years in the making and I don't think the drought's going to end this year. Their blue chip goalie recruit and star defenseman just bolted when the cupboard was already pretty bare. For a B1G team with the recruiting advantages and performance history of Wisconsin, I call this a drought.
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Similar with UM since The Mel left?
 
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welcome to real hockey and real hockey fans Coach Shuchuk!! I like bulls in china shops when it comes to hockey. and if tMel hired him, he's good.
 
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Trevor Cope is now committed to American International. Not a big surprise.
 
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redwing61 said:
Trevor Cope is now committed to American International. Not a big surprise.
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I would say I'm disappointed that we have to over-recruit, but then I went and looked at Heisenberg's list and we are far from the worst offenders. What the hell Maine? Dartmouth? WMU? CC? Vermont?
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I would say I'm disappointed that we have to over-recruit, but then I went and looked at Heisenberg's list and we are far from the worst offenders. What the hell Maine? Dartmouth? WMU? CC? Vermont?
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yeah, there's this. >snort<

University of Vermont hockey program lands 13-year-old recruit
http://www.foxsports.com/nhl/story/...ckey-program-lands-13-year-old-recruit-080615

"According to hockey scouting website EliteProspects.com, Cipollone is 5-foot-1 and 119 pounds. He reportedly just turned 13 on May 14, and he would not be draft-eligible until 2020."
 
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huskyfan said:
welcome to real hockey and real hockey fans Coach Shuchuk!! I like bulls in china shops when it comes to hockey. and if tMel hired him, he's good.
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Shuey is a great hire for you guys. While I wouldn't go so far as to say I "know" him, I have had several conversations with him over the years and he's a tremendous guy. While my fellow (understandably disgruntled) Badger fans may be down on him after last year's disaster, just looking back a year and you can see the success he had with some guys he had four years to work with. Mike Mersch came in looking like a baby moose on roller skates his freshman year. His senior year he was All B1G and All American and last year led the AHL in playoff scoring and his team to the Calder Cup. Mark Zengerle came in as all flash and no substance, but by his senior year he was a complete two way player, hard nosed and a leader. He was first team All B1G, tournament MVP, and last year was an integral part of the AHL's Grand Rapids Griffins great season as a rookie. Tyler Barnes turned in to a top line scorer under Schuey and last year dominated in the ECHL, leading his team in scoring and finishing in the top 10 in the league as a rookie. There are other forwards... Jefferson Dahl, Derek Lee, the Little brothers... these are guys that got the absolute most out of what gifts they had, and to me, that's a mark of a pretty good coach. I mean, just about anybody could coach a Nic Kerdiles to be a great college player...

I just think Schuey is going to be a great fit in your program and I certainly wish him and Tech all the success in the world.
 
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redwing61 said:
Trevor Cope is now committed to American International. Not a big surprise.
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?!$#*?!!..... This is what I get for speculating.
Maybe I can trade it in for an AIC jersey with a Yellow-Jacket on the front?
Ryan J

<img height=400 src="http://www.johnsonsjerseys.net/hockey/junior/lan16_f.jpg"><img height=400 src="http://www.johnsonsjerseys.net/hockey/junior/lan16_b.jpg">
 
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redwing61 said:
Trevor Cope is now committed to American International. Not a big surprise.
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Good for Trevor....he'll be a solid player for AIC. It was pretty clear that if he came to Houghton, he'd spend a lot of bench time.
I suppose we're likely to see more players verbal and then not make it to Tech as the team becomes more competitive, but I would think that it should be pretty rare....maybe a player every few years.
Cope would have been a starter in the Russell era.
 
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had he really tried Scott could have killed anyone on the ice. it was fun, after the takedown, he laid on the ice and laughed.
 
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