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Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

wolverine318 said:
come back to us when you have more than a participation banner hanging in your barn. Even BGSU has a sixth place banner hanging in their barn.
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There is NO "6th Place" banner hanging in BG's barn.
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

CHATJ said:
Michigan Fans!!!!!


Hoping the team can make it to Detroit for the CCHA championship!

Want to see them if they make it! Need Tickets for free?

Just go to

Joe College Facebook

and answer the trivia question! while your at it become a friend of Joe College on facebook and tell your friends, this won't be the last opportunity!
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No advertising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lazy, lazy, lazy...
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

1. Joe College is one of the most pathetic mascots ever

2. Michigan has a home game tonight. Which of the underachieving teams will come out on top?
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

UMICHhockeyRULZ said:
No advertising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lazy, lazy, lazy...
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Um I am sure the advertising just hasn't yet because they are waiting to see who finishes in the top 4 that way they don't waste money in places where there would be no interest! Which is a good strategy but would involve a very heavy push in a short peroid of time!

Plus Social Media is free so why wouldn't they push that!
 
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CHATJ said:
Um I am sure the advertising just hasn't yet because they are waiting to see who finishes in the top 4 that way they don't waste money in places where there would be no interest! Which is a good strategy but would involve a very heavy push in a short peroid of time!

Plus Social Media is free so why wouldn't they push that!
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Wow I said push way too many times in that post! well only twice but still!!
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

CHATJ said:
Um I am sure the advertising just hasn't yet because they are waiting to see who finishes in the top 4 that way they don't waste money in places where there would be no interest! Which is a good strategy but would involve a very heavy push in a short peroid of time!

Plus Social Media is free so why wouldn't they push that!
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If you are Joe College, it's apparent why you've been in college so long. And may need some remediation....
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

Out of boredom and curiousity today I played with the league points for the CCHA and looked at what they would be without a shootout, as well as what they would be if we still had the absurd scoring from last year.

Feel free to ignore this post, I just thought others may also be curious.

Here is what I found:

Michigan is currently in 6th place with last night's win. Michigan can not finish any lower than 8th. In bizzaro world where neither Sparty nor Ferris take points from Bowling Green and Western, respectively, Michigan could tie for 2nd. Finishing 4th is a possibility with a win and NMU not taking more than 4 points from Lake State.
Miami 66
MSU 46
FSU 46
Alaska 45
UNO 44
Michigan 43
NMU 42
tOSU 38
LSSU 35
Notre Dame 33
BGSU 21
WMU 18


If the CCHA were still giving out 2 points for a win and 2 points for a shootout win/1 point for a shootout loss (as they did last year), Michigan would be hosting a playoff next week. No way around it. We'd be in 7th place with 29 points currently. Best the blue could finish is tied for 5th with UNO and NMU if NMU gets no points on the weekend. Lowest possible finish would be tied for 8th with LSSU.

Crazy scoring from last year:
Miami 46
Alaska 34
MSU 33
FSU 33
UNO 31
NMU 31
Michigan 29
tOSU 28
LSSU 25
Notre Dame 25
BGSU 17
WMU 14




In a "normal league" as I like to call the conferences which do not have shootouts, Michigan would currently be tied for 5th with 29 points. The lowest possible finish would be tied for 7th with tOSU, and the highest possible finish would be tied for 2nd (If MSU lost both games, and Ferris took no more than 1 point). The normal league standings would look as follows (with Omaha and Alaska finished conference play, Michigan and Notre Dame could at most earn 2 points, all other teams could earn up to 4 points):

Miami 44
MSU 31
Ferris 30
Alaska 30
Michigan 29
UNO 29
Northern 28
tOSU 25
LSSU 23
Notre Dame 23
Bowling Green 13
Western 13
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

So more or less, fans can complain about however points are earned, but for the most part it doesn't make a difference.

There have been a ton of ties this year, though.
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

nmu_27 said:
So more or less, fans can complain about however points are earned, but for the most part it doesn't make a difference.

There have been a ton of ties this year, though.
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Yeah it does. In the old world, we'd be in a position to take a bye with a win or a tie saturday, providing we have the tiebreaker w/Alaska. Right now we have to rely on another team as well as take care of our own business.

The gimmick points thing bit us, but not as much as we bit ourselves, losing games at home to Miami, BG, MSU and NMU.
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

it wil be hard to win without hogan but im yhinking postive


wolverineTrumpet said:
Out of boredom and curiousity today I played with the league points for the CCHA and looked at what they would be without a shootout, as well as what they would be if we still had the absurd scoring from last year.

Feel free to ignore this post, I just thought others may also be curious.

Here is what I found:

Michigan is currently in 6th place with last night's win. Michigan can not finish any lower than 8th. In bizzaro world where neither Sparty nor Ferris take points from Bowling Green and Western, respectively, Michigan could tie for 2nd. Finishing 4th is a possibility with a win and NMU not taking more than 4 points from Lake State.
Miami 66
MSU 46
FSU 46
Alaska 45
UNO 44
Michigan 43
NMU 42
tOSU 38
LSSU 35
Notre Dame 33
BGSU 21
WMU 18


If the CCHA were still giving out 2 points for a win and 2 points for a shootout win/1 point for a shootout loss (as they did last year), Michigan would be hosting a playoff next week. No way around it. We'd be in 7th place with 29 points currently. Best the blue could finish is tied for 5th with UNO and NMU if NMU gets no points on the weekend. Lowest possible finish would be tied for 8th with LSSU.

Crazy scoring from last year:
Miami 46
Alaska 34
MSU 33
FSU 33
UNO 31
NMU 31
Michigan 29
tOSU 28
LSSU 25
Notre Dame 25
BGSU 17
WMU 14




In a "normal league" as I like to call the conferences which do not have shootouts, Michigan would currently be tied for 5th with 29 points. The lowest possible finish would be tied for 7th with tOSU, and the highest possible finish would be tied for 2nd (If MSU lost both games, and Ferris took no more than 1 point). The normal league standings would look as follows (with Omaha and Alaska finished conference play, Michigan and Notre Dame could at most earn 2 points, all other teams could earn up to 4 points):

Miami 44
MSU 31
Ferris 30
Alaska 30
Michigan 29
UNO 29
Northern 28
tOSU 25
LSSU 23
Notre Dame 23
Bowling Green 13
Western 13
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Going into tonight:

1. Miami 66
2. MSU 46
3. FSU 46
4. Alaska 45
5. UNO 44
6. Michigan 43
7. NMU 42
8. tOSU 38
9. LSSU 35
10. Notre Dame 33
11. BGSU 21
12. WMU 18

MSU (3 pts) and Ferris (2 pts) lock up byes. Northern won in OT, so they're up to a tie with Alaska with 45 pts. Miami is way up on OSU. Western got 1 pt and BGSU got nothing.

Now:

1. Miami 69
2. MSU 49
3. FSU 48
4. NMU 45
5. Alaska 45
6. UNO 44
7. Michigan 43
8. tOSU 38
9. LSSU 35
10. Notre Dame 33
11. BGSU 21
12. WMU 19

For us to get the bye: Get at least two more points than Northern tomorrow. 3 pts to 0 pts would give us sole possession of 4th. 3 pts to 1 pt would make it a two way tie with Northern, in which we have the tiebreaker (regulation CCHA wins). 2 pts to 0 pts would give a 3 way tie with Northern and Alaska, and again, we'd have the tiebreaker.

Even if we don't get the bye, 2 or 3 pts tomorrow would put us in 5th, giving a first round series probably with Western (slight chance of BG) with a second round trip to Northern (or maybe Ferris if Northern gets 3 and they get 0 tomorrow). Not the easiest path, if we get 5th, but it could be worse. If we don't get 5th, then it could get much tougher.

NOTE: We can't finish lower than 7th, so at least we won't have go to Miami in the second round. A trip to MSU is possible though.
 
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Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

streaker said:
Yeah it does. In the old world, we'd be in a position to take a bye with a win or a tie saturday, providing we have the tiebreaker w/Alaska. Right now we have to rely on another team as well as take care of our own business.

The gimmick points thing bit us, but not as much as we bit ourselves, losing games at home to Miami, BG, MSU and NMU.
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Either way you wouldn't control your destiny. Northern jumps you with the win into 4th, tied with Alaska.

Of course they aren't exactly the same, but the general standings are kept.
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

nmu_27 said:
Either way you wouldn't control your destiny. Northern jumps you with the win into 4th, tied with Alaska.

Of course they aren't exactly the same, but the general standings are kept.
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How do you figure that (and I'm gonna split hairs with you.) We still have to win outright or at least win a shootout tonight and you still have to tie, lose a shootout or lose straight up. It don't matter if we don't take care of business, so no, it's not entirely up to another team completely controlling our destiny, and as of today it doesn't matter how the standings are kept. We lose, we're done. You win in regulation, we're done. Simple as that. LSSU shot their wad last night, 1:05 from shaving at least 1 point. You guys executed better and we crapped the bed this season, so I don't expect anything different tonight, especially with a back up goaltender playing on the road. We had our chance last weekend, and NMU deserves 4th if they win tonight.
 
Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

streaker said:
How do you figure that (and I'm gonna split hairs with you.) We still have to win outright or at least win a shootout tonight and you still have to tie, lose a shootout or lose straight up. It don't matter if we don't take care of business, so no, it's not entirely up to another team completely controlling our destiny, and as of today it doesn't matter how the standings are kept. We lose, we're done. You win in regulation, we're done. Simple as that. LSSU shot their wad last night, 1:05 from shaving at least 1 point. You guys executed better and we crapped the bed this season, so I don't expect anything different tonight, especially with a back up goaltender playing on the road. We had our chance last weekend, and NMU deserves 4th if they win tonight.
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I was just saying that with yesterday's win NMU would have had 30 points, and would have jumped over Michigan. Michigan would have to win tonight and NMU would have to lose for Michigan to jump back into 4th, which is what needs to happen anyway (if you forget about the shootout). To me that is essentially the same. If it isn't to you, I no longer care.
 
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nmu_27 said:
I was just saying that with yesterday's win NMU would have had 30 points, and would have jumped over Michigan. Michigan would have to win tonight and NMU would have to lose for Michigan to jump back into 4th, which is what needs to happen anyway (if you forget about the shootout). To me that is essentially the same. If it isn't to you, I no longer care.
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Tomato, tah-mah-toe. But saying that destiny is completely out of our hands is technically wrong.

Go spread your "knowledge" elsewhere.
 
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