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Meth, I Hear You Callin': The Final Season of Breaking Bad

Re: Meth, I Hear You Callin': The Final Season of Breaking Bad

I liked the ending as a neat little ribbon to tie off the show. It's a show that clearly had a beginning and an end, and the way the episode played out definitely tied up all the loose ends that mattered.

Mrs. EoDS and I both agreed that it ultimately made the episode itself a little toothless (aside from maybe his trick with Badger and Skinny Pete, this episode truly lacked any HOLY **** moments), but I thought the payoffs were very good. In particular, I loved how Todd remained unable to handle reality to the end, and I was so happy to see Jesse stick to his guns of never doing what Walt wanted him to do ever again.

While I am still not a fan of how the show abandoned Walt's turn into Scarface for the last 2.5 episodes, and I do think that the Aryans were a cheap/easy villain for the end, I have to admit that I also enjoyed Walt finally dropping the "for our family" BS in that last scene with Skyler. For whatever reason, that scene just worked for me.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
I liked the ending as a neat little ribbon to tie off the show. It's a show that clearly had a beginning and an end, and the way the episode played out definitely tied up all the loose ends that mattered.

Mrs. EoDS and I both agreed that it ultimately made the episode itself a little toothless (aside from maybe his trick with Badger and Skinny Pete, this episode truly lacked any HOLY **** moments), but I thought the payoffs were very good. In particular, I loved how Todd remained unable to handle reality to the end, and I was so happy to see Jesse stick to his guns of never doing what Walt wanted him to do ever again.

While I am still not a fan of how the show abandoned Walt's turn into Scarface for the last 2.5 episodes, and I do think that the Aryans were a cheap/easy villain for the end, I have to admit that I also enjoyed Walt finally dropping the "for our family" BS in that last scene with Skyler. For whatever reason, that scene just worked for me.
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Talking Bad explained that scene very well. It was a great scene. The Badger scene was a holy * moment for me. It was bad-arse, the way Walt just waved and BOOMREDDOTS. That split second...it was....whoa.....dafuq?
 
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So all that build up for the ricin, and it ends up going to the most tepid, boring, who-gives-a-**** character on the show(that isn't Walt Jr.).

Overall, it was kind of a mix for me. I guess I was always going to be a little disappointed because Uncle Jack and the Plot-zis felt beneath the show, but there just wasn't quite the epic feel to the ending. Lots of fan service. I'll give them a pass for Badger and Skinny Pete and the awkward flashback to cram Dean Norris onto the credits. But Jesse's ending makes no sense whatsoever. He's finally got his freedom...except for the fact that he's completely broke and wanted for all of the felonies.

Still a lot of good stuff that worked though, and overall, a really good show. Watching good chunks of the marathon helped me remember why this show was so good, and I'm glad they ended the story when they did, before it really started to go downhill.

EDIT: I ended up doing pretty well on my Who Dies pool too. Obviously I missed who got the ricin, and I had cancer getting Walt and Jesse dying(I'm chalking Walt taking a bullet for Jesse up to my fan service comments). Other than that, the only two I missed were that I had the Plot-zis killing Brock, and Huell dying of high cholesterol.
 
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MaizeRage said:
So all that build up for the ricin, and it ends up going to the most tepid, boring, who-gives-a-**** character on the show(that isn't Walt Jr.).

Overall, it was kind of a mix for me. I guess I was always going to be a little disappointed because Uncle Jack and the Plot-zis felt beneath the show, but there just wasn't quite the epic feel to the ending. Lots of fan service. I'll give them a pass for Badger and Skinny Pete and the awkward flashback to cram Dean Norris onto the credits. But Jesse's ending makes no sense whatsoever. He's finally got his freedom...except for the fact that he's completely broke and wanted for all of the felonies.

Still a lot of good stuff that worked though, and overall, a really good show. Watching good chunks of the marathon helped me remember why this show was so good, and I'm glad they ended the story when they did, before it really started to go downhill.

EDIT: I ended up doing pretty well on my Who Dies pool too. Obviously I missed who got the ricin, and I had cancer getting Walt and Jesse dying(I'm chalking Walt taking a bullet for Jesse up to my fan service comments). Other than that, the only two I missed were that I had the Plot-zis killing Brock, and Huell dying of high cholesterol.
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I never thought Brock was in danger, mainly due to the "there's enough savages" comment by Uncle Jack, and the general attitude (Todd's an exception) of the "no kids" rule that criminals have.
 
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Also, poor Mike the Cleaner. All that work to try and get his money to little Kaylee and he just wasn't clever enough to figure out that all you have to do is give your money to somebody that you have known connections to, and then have them give her the money.
 
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MaizeRage said:
Also, poor Mike the Cleaner. All that work to try and get his money to little Kaylee and he just wasn't clever enough to figure out that all you have to do is give your money to somebody that you have known connections to, and then have them give her the money.
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Mike knew some billionaires?

MaizeRage said:
EDIT: I ended up doing pretty well on my Who Dies pool too. Obviously I missed who got the ricin, and I had cancer getting Walt and Jesse dying(I'm chalking Walt taking a bullet for Jesse up to my fan service comments). Other than that, the only two I missed were that I had the Plot-zis killing Brock, and Huell dying of high cholesterol.
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According to the "obituary" from AMC, Walt was killed by "gunshot wound/lung cancer" so you were half right. The only one I missed on was Lydia, although technically she is still alive when the show ends...

There are still some scenes that were shot that were never used so it is possible they show up as extras on the DVD. Hopefully not as alternate endings. That ending was pretty faithful to the show. Now, if they want to do some gag endings (Walt Jr playing with a snow globe, Walt wakes up in bed next to Jane Kaczmarek after a weird dream etc) that would be pretty funny.
 
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Priceless said:
Mike knew some billionaires?
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How is being a billionaire in any way relevant? As a plan to try and get the Schwartzes into trouble for accepting dirty money, that was fairly clever. But any idea that Walt Jr. actually sees that money is as silly as believing that showing the police some missing bodies is a get-out-jail-free card.
 
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MaizeRage said:
How is being a billionaire in any way relevant? As a plan to try and get the Schwartzes into trouble for accepting dirty money, that was fairly clever. But any idea that Walt Jr. actually sees that money is as silly as believing that showing the police some missing bodies is a get-out-jail-free card.
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When Gretchen and Elliott do give him the money when he turns 18, who is going to question it? They are billionaires with a history of giving money to charity (Somehow I doubt the $28M gift is the first such donation, if only for tax purposes). They knew Junior's father before all this drug business. They can say the money comes from a fund Walt set up when he was still a partner at GM and never collected and has been building interest all this time. Now that he is 18, they can give him the cash. They can do a lot of different things. It will be a lot less obvious if billionaires give Junior a trust fund than if Joe Blow from down the road gives Kaylee a couple million bucks.

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But Jesse's ending makes no sense whatsoever. He's finally got his freedom...except for the fact that he's completely broke and wanted for all of the felonies.
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What felonies? The only thing Jesse was being held for was throwing his money away, and maybe trespassing/destruction of public property at the park. The last person to see him alive was Marie and she only knows that he was working with Hank and Steve. The confession would have been destroyed by the Aryans and anyone who knows anything about his involvement in any other crimes is dead. The police probably consider him dead because of his involvement with Hank and Steve, and his friends seem to think he has gone to Alaska. If he gets picked up by the police, what are they going to be able to charge him with?
 
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Priceless said:
When Gretchen and Elliott do give him the money when he turns 18, who is going to question it? They are billionaires with a history of giving money to charity (Somehow I doubt the $28M gift is the first such donation, if only for tax purposes). They knew Junior's father before all this drug business. They can say the money comes from a fund Walt set up when he was still a partner at GM and never collected and has been building interest all this time. Now that he is 18, they can give him the cash. They can do a lot of different things. It will be a lot less obvious if billionaires give Junior a trust fund than if Joe Blow from down the road gives Kaylee a couple million bucks.
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I'm with Maize on this one. Any large sum of money randomly going to Flynn is going to raise a lot of eyebrows. Elliott's really going to have to forge a lot of documentation on the money if he has any intention of having enough of a paper trail to convince anyone that he just randomly had $9+ million to give away like that. That goes double if he tries to pass it off as some sort of fund Walt set up long ago that went uncollected.

I'm with you on Jesse. Short of them pulling his prints off of one of the guns at the shootout at the Aryan Wonderland, the police might not have much to go on if they tried to prosecute him for anything.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
I'm with Maize on this one. Any large sum of money randomly going to Flynn is going to raise a lot of eyebrows. Elliott's really going to have to forge a lot of documentation on the money if he has any intention of having enough of a paper trail to convince anyone that he just randomly had $9+ million to give away like that. That goes double if he tries to pass it off as some sort of fund Walt set up long ago that went uncollected.
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He's a billionaire. It won't take a lot to convince people he had $10M in cash lying around. Fring set up grants, scholarships etc. G&E are smart people and they have 10 months to figure a way to get Junior the cash. I'm sure they'll think of something that won't set off too many alarm bells.

As for Skyler's get-out-of-jail-free card, it isn't the lottery ticket with the GPS coordinates, it's the fact that Walt is dead and was discovered by the police. Based on the snippet we saw last week, they were only interested in Skyler because they wanted Walt. It seems her cooking the books at Beneke has gone unnoticed (guess the IRS got his check) and they seem to be letting her off the hook for the money laundering since she was supposedly an abused wife. Now that Walt is gone, there isn't much to keep the government interested. The GPS coordinates are a way to provide closure to Hank's and Steve's families.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
I'm with you on Jesse. Short of them pulling his prints off of one of the guns at the shootout at the Aryan Wonderland, the police might not have much to go on if they tried to prosecute him for anything.
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It wouldn't take much police work to connect Jesse as Walt's partner(assuming they haven't already). And if Jesse is the last prosecutable person standing, yeah, they're going to come down on him hard. This idea that they only wanted Walt because he's the mastermind and now that he's dead, all would be forgiven is one of those classic Walter White 'This is all about me!' delusions of grandeur.
 
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On second thought, there's probably a ****load of Jesse's fingerprints all over that lab. Yeah, he's boned.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
On second thought, there's probably a ****load of Jesse's fingerprints all over that lab. Yeah, he's boned.
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Hopefully the police would see the dog run above the meth lab and the cage outside and be able to deduce he was held captive. But Maize is right, he would be the last prosecutable person. We'll just have to imagine he drove to Mexico and escaped the law :)
 
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The finale got 10.3 million viewers, up from 6.6 last week.

The episode aired head-to-head against Sunday Night Football, scripted premieres on the Big Four and the return of Showtime's Homeland. Football aside, Breaking Bad is on track to be Sunday's strongest performer in the targeted adults 18-49 demographic. The show brought in a 6.7 million viewers in the advertiser-friendly age group. That's up 300 percent from last year's ender and even bigger than the previous series record of 6.6 million total viewers.

Breaking Bad premiered on Jan. 20, 2008, to a modest 1.41 million viewers. The show only cracked the 2-million mark on one occasion during the first four seasons, but critical acclaim and a streaming deal with Netflix saw more and more viewers get turned on to the drama.

The first part of the fifth and final season returned to a then record of 2.93 million viewers. in July 2012 -- and little more than a year later that number nearly doubled when the recent Aug. 11 return saw a surge to 5.92 million.

Companion series Talking Bad went out on its own high note, averaging 4.4 million viewers and 2.9 million adults 18-49.
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Re: Meth, I Hear You Callin': The Final Season of Breaking Bad

I'm actually sorta sad. Currently watching a lot of those parodies and getting some bad nostalgia thinking back to the earlier seasons when it was just Walt and Jesse together and the story was still piecing itself together.

I don't know if it's because it's over and I'm still wanting more, but there's a part of me that feels unfulfilled. It was a great finale but it just feels like there's something they missed, like a flash forward to Holly watching the video or something else involving the family.

Or maybe they didn't miss anything, and this show was just so good that I'm craving more story from it. I guess that's the one fault of going out on top, there's no exhausted story.
 
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