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Meth, I Hear You Callin': The Final Season of Breaking Bad

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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
What was that mistake?
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We had 27 and a half episodes of Mike the Cleaner, super smart, careful guy, with a meticulously vetted and curated crew. Oh, but he also this lawyer that will allow the DEA to arrest him in like 30 seconds.

It was a blatant case of the plot driving character actions, rather than character actions driving the plot. I'll blame it on the two half seasons throwing the pacing of the show completely off. I think like they felt like they had to do something big before the break, but like I said, it just felt hacky for this show.
 
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MaizeRage said:
We had 27 and a half episodes of Mike the Cleaner, super smart, careful guy, with a meticulously vetted and curated crew. Oh, but he also this lawyer that will allow the DEA to arrest him in like 30 seconds.

It was a blatant case of the plot driving character actions, rather than character actions driving the plot. I'll blame it on the two half seasons throwing the pacing of the show completely off. I think like they felt like they had to do something big before the break, but like I said, it just felt hacky for this show.
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My problem wasn't even so much the lawyer part of it. Why is it Mike's plan to do the money transfers in a bank, where there are going to be obvious witnesses, and security cameras? It is going to be pretty obvious when every week one guy opens 20 boxes, and the next few days various people come in and open the same boxes. THAT is the stupid part that was out of character for Mike, I didn't have nearly as big of problem with the actual involvement of the hack lawyer as I did with the process. Maybe a better way to put it is, I wouldn't have a problem with that lawyer, if Mike used him within a process that actually made sense.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
My problem wasn't even so much the lawyer part of it. Why is it Mike's plan to do the money transfers in a bank, where there are going to be obvious witnesses, and security cameras? It is going to be pretty obvious when every week one guy opens 20 boxes, and the next few days various people come in and open the same boxes. THAT is the stupid part that was out of character for Mike, I didn't have nearly as big of problem with the actual involvement of the hack lawyer as I did with the process. Maybe a better way to put it is, I wouldn't have a problem with that lawyer, if Mike used him within a process that actually made sense.
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A discrete dropping of an envelope in their mailbox every week would've been smarter... maybe.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
A discrete dropping of an envelope in their mailbox every week would've been smarter... maybe.
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We had that episode a few seasons ago where he took Jesse around to all of the drop sites all over the place, in the middle of no where. He wouldn't have had to go that far, but **** that's a huge difference from what we saw last episode.

edit: Even a PO Box place (not the ones at the post office) would be much better.
 
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Please tell me I'm missing/forgetting something.

Hank finds the book. Wouldn't that be in the evidence locker at the police station? The one that Walt and Jesse basically destroyed? The only reasoning would be exact duplication of the signing in another duplicate book, which is unlikely.

And Jesse is a dead man. Dumb question: can ricin be "ingested" via skin contact along with actual ingestion (via food/drink)? If so....that money is tainted. Other thought is that Walt is about to frame Jesse, considering the money/gun transfer.
 
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Is it wrong that I thought it would've been funny for Hank to just let out a big plopper right before the cut to black?

And how about those two montages (prison and the cooking one)?

And what does it say about how great this show is that it can show Jr. pushing Holly around and it's suspenseful because you're sort of expecting the Phoenix crew to show up and blast bullets in everyone, or at least have Jr. have a stroke or something?

Prediction for the last (half?) season: Jr. becomes a druggie. Probably meth.

Brenthoven said:
Please tell me I'm missing/forgetting something.

Hank finds the book. Wouldn't that be in the evidence locker at the police station? The one that Walt and Jesse basically destroyed? The only reasoning would be exact duplication of the signing in another duplicate book, which is unlikely.

And Jesse is a dead man. Dumb question: can ricin be "ingested" via skin contact along with actual ingestion (via food/drink)? If so....that money is tainted. Other thought is that Walt is about to frame Jesse, considering the money/gun transfer.
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I was pretty sure that was a book given to Walt by Gale.

And I was also sure that the gun Jesse had was his own: he would've gotten it when he realized Walt was at the door, because he wanted to protect himself from Walt just in case. Keep in mind, with his comment about the guys in prison, he knows what Walt is now capable of.
 
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The book was also part of the evidence that Hank looked at in that one ep, though. Hence my confusion.
 
Re: Meth, I Hear You Callin': The Final Season of Breaking Bad

Brenthoven said:
Please tell me I'm missing/forgetting something.

Hank finds the book. Wouldn't that be in the evidence locker at the police station? The one that Walt and Jesse basically destroyed? The only reasoning would be exact duplication of the signing in another duplicate book, which is unlikely.

And Jesse is a dead man. Dumb question: can ricin be "ingested" via skin contact along with actual ingestion (via food/drink)? If so....that money is tainted. Other thought is that Walt is about to frame Jesse, considering the money/gun transfer.
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Didn't Hank give him the book to look over and see what he thought?

And that would have been Jesse's gun, the thing he went back for before opening the door. Walt did just have 10 people murdered in prison after all.
 
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I was reminded on GPL that the "WW" writing thing was in Gale's JOURNAL, not a book. So I'm not going nuts after all. :o
 
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Brenthoven said:
I was reminded on GPL that the "WW" writing thing was in Gale's JOURNAL, not a book. So I'm not going nuts after all. :o
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Yeah, the journal with all Gale's notes was what they had in evidence, and this was a gift to Walt.
 
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Ohhhhhh, Gale. I kept thinking that the book must have been a gift to Walt from Gus and trying to figure out why Gus would've signed his name "G.B."
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Is it wrong that I thought it would've been funny for Hank to just let out a big plopper right before the cut to black?
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Let this haunt you all winter.

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The book inscription was a really clever move by the writers because it specifically sets up the final eight episodes as Walt vs. Hank, rather than Walt vs. the DEA. Hank may have connected all the dots, but at this point, all he has are a few initials and some invisible strings tying people together. Certainly not enough to get the DEA interested after they've grown tired of Hank's obsession.

Not so great: It didn't make a lot of sense to me that after having a gun to her head multiple times and basically saying anything she could to save her life, Lydia must have just forgotten that whole easy billion dollar Czech meth plan. Seems like that might be something you'd mention in that situation.

Also, it still kind of bums me out that apparently the final eight episodes are going to cover a timeline roughly as long as the rest of the show combined. They're going to have to really increase the use of the 'moving the plot forward by doing bad things ironically juxtaposed with poppy music" montages, and we were already up to two in the last episode!

All in all though, it looks like this two-part season will end up like all the other BB seasons: sloppy, drag-*** first half with an amazing back half.
 
Re: Meth, I Hear You Callin': The Final Season of Breaking Bad

ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Is it wrong that I thought it would've been funny for Hank to just let out a big plopper right before the cut to black?
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Well, ask the internet and you will receive...

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Re: Meth, I Hear You Callin': The Final Season of Breaking Bad

The gf and I finally watched the last episode. The last 5 minutes were excellent. We both sat there knowing something was going to happen. I seriously thought that they were going to get "hit" when they were sitting on the patio. Or that something was going to happen to Jr and Holly. Hank figuring it out with the book worked excellent in my opinion.

The one thing that kinda bugs me is it seems like all they're putting in this last "season" should have been spread over 2 full length seasons. I think it would have been cleaner with less of the plot holes that have been pointed out.
 
Re: Meth, I Hear You Callin': The Final Season of Breaking Bad

So AMC continues to roll out interviews with various cast members, and for the most part they're all your standard industry fluff for the official website. Sort of like all the stupid comments actors like to make about "what a pleasure it was to work with X" or "Y is such a generous actor/director/whatever". With that said, I saw this tidbit from the interview with Laura Fraser (Lydia), and I was amused by how (relatively) blunt she was about how confusing she thought it would be for Mike to take a "half measure":

Q: Jonathan Banks has said that Mike is responsible for his own downfall for not following his own rules and killing Lydia. What's your take on that?

A: I didn't read that, but I remember him on set saying, "What the *******? No half-measures! What am I doing?" But, you know Mike *******ed up. He took a half-measure, what can I say? I felt sad when I heard what happened -- I left at Episode 505 and came back at Episode 508 expecting to see him there, and then realized that his character had died the previous episode. I was a bit bereft because I was looking to get to know him a bit more!
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Heh.

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