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Making a Murderer (spoilers expected) did Steven Avery do it?

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From what I gather from the Cafe, you just described the U.P.*

* I have never been to the U.P. and for all I know it looks like Malta. "All I know is what I read on the internet."
The UP is beautiful land. The problem is that it's filled with midget Yoopers looking for today's latest fashion camo.
 
Re: Making a Murderer (spoilers expected) did Steven Avery do it?

Someone needs to post the picture of a hot tub party at NMU to educate Kepler ;)
 
Re: Making a Murderer (spoilers expected) did Steven Avery do it?

Someone needs to post the picture of a hot tub party at NMU to educate Kepler ;)

Believe it or not I actually know a guy from NMU. Or MTU, I forget which*. But either way, he was a short, wiry, extremely polite coastie (as in the Coast Guard, not someone from the coast) who was without doubt pound-for-pound the most ambitious drinker I have ever met.

He was from the town in the Vice show about that famous semipro hockey rivalry. Not the featured team (Calumet), but the cake eater rival (Portage Lake?).


* Houghton, whichever one that is. He was an engineer, so I guess MTU?
 
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Re: Making a Murderer (spoilers expected) did Steven Avery do it?

Believe it or not I actually know a guy from NMU. Or MTU, I forget which*. But either way, he was a short, wiry, extremely polite coastie (as in the Coast Guard, not someone from the coast) who was without doubt pound-for-pound the most ambitious drinker I have ever met.

He was from the town in the Vice show about that famous semipro hockey rivalry. Not the featured team (Calumet), but the cake eater rival (Portage Lake?).


* Houghton, whichever one that is. He was an engineer, so I guess MTU?

MTU is in Houghton. Engineering students go to Houghton, future burger flippers go to NMU. That's what I've been told by non-partisan Techies, at least.
 
Re: Making a Murderer (spoilers expected) did Steven Avery do it?

MTU is in Houghton. Engineering students go to Houghton, future burger flippers go to NMU. That's what I've been told by non-partisan Techies, at least.

So it's Clarkson vs SLU. Got it.
 
Re: Making a Murderer (spoilers expected) did Steven Avery do it?

Don't appeals courts issue opinions/statements on why they overturned? If they do, CNN did a sh_t job as usual reporting that.
 

I'm not sure what to make of this. If the 7th circuit later rules that Dassey's confession may stand what options are left for him?

At this point I'm wondering about the end game for both guys... Dassey's confession and Kratz's unethical press conference sealed Avery's fate with the public and possibly the jurists. Yes, it wasn't used in trial bs Avery but it was ALL over the news.

Could we have a situation where the 7th circuit upholds the State's argument v Dassey but then Zellner's new tests prove planted evidence vs Avery and get him exonerated. At that point how could the state continue to imprison Dassey?

So ironically we could have a forced confession by Dassey bolster the case vs Avery, then science could free Avery and by extension must allow even the staunchest "law and order" conservative to acknowledge if Avery didn't do it, Dassey didn't either.
Long story short, Zellner may end up getting both guys out based on science/facts.

At that point the state will have A LOT to answer for.
 
Re: Making a Murderer (spoilers expected) did Steven Avery do it?

I dont think the 7th Circuit will rule that way...but if they do then I would think next step is to petition the SC.
 
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