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Maine Hockey 2014-15 Volume 2: Red's Revenge

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hobeyfaker said:
Very disappointing season for Maine. I don't see how even the most loyal and optimistic of fans wouldn't see it that way. First 20 loss season since Timmy's 08-09 team. We had 2 quality wins all year. It's hard to see things getting better after a step back this year.
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I don't see this as a step back.
Last season maine played a cupcake schedule, this season Red tried to play more good opponents.
 
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walrus said:
Answer this, were the goalies responsible for the losses this past weekend?
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Maybe not, but they also didn't keep Maine in the game either......and that's a problem. They are one of the many weaknesses on this team......and unlike F and D commitments.......there isn't one showing up on the Maine recruit list.

walrus said:
There are no goalie recruits because Red doesn't have a scholarship to give one.
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Seriously? Red has other commitments for 3-4 years out. How long do you want him to wait to recruit a goaltender??? Most of the good ones for 2-3 years out have already been gobbled up. Do you think that we are going to get a top prospect by waiting until the last minute?:rolleyes:

walrus said:
And oh yeah, I don't believe Maine is winning anything any time soon no matter who is in net
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Well, why even follow the team then?:rolleyes: I'm all for realistic expectations, but you just seem way negative.......yet, you don't even think that Maine needs improvement in goal.:confused:
 
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umhockey91 said:
Maybe not, but they also didn't keep Maine in the game either......and that's a problem. They are one of the many weaknesses on this team......and unlike F and D commitments.......there isn't one showing up on the Maine recruit list.
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It's clear there isn't enough top-end talent on this current team. Maine fans want to put the burden on defensive lapses (which is fair), but when the netminders are stopping pucks to the tune of just .903 on the season that means pucks are squeaking by that are probably stoppable. This team doesn't have a Ouellette that can put this team on his back and save 92%+ of the shots against and without that they are going to struggle to win games consistently.

I agree that Morris is not the answer and shouldn't be starting many games next year. Doesn't seem to have the mental makeup to be anything more than a backup goaltender (Sirman-esque). I'd rather have the growing pains of two young goaltenders than one who doesn't pass the eye-test of "starter material."

I've been impressed with flashes of Romeo even if his W/L record doesn't reflect it. Let's not forget he's still a freshman, so there's still room for growth, assuming the team in front of him can play with a little more stability. Nobody realistically expected him to come in Year 1 and be All-World. I'm most curious to see what Nugnes will bring in an advanced role on the team over the coming seasons. He's a little behind developmentally (likely because he didn't start playing goalie until his junior year of H.S.), but he's got everything Maine should be looking for when developing a goaltender. Good mix of size (6'3"), footwork, and athleticism. If he's worked on his rebound control and positioning he could easily be 1a next season.

Rushing out to give commitments to goaltenders who are years away seems like a foolish idea considering we have two freshmen capable of carrying the mail for the next few seasons. I'd feel much more comfortable if I'm Gendron & Co. knowing what kind of team I'm building before I'd commit to a starter down the road.
 
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umhockey91 said:
Maybe not, but they also didn't keep Maine in the game either......and that's a problem. They are one of the many weaknesses on this team......and unlike F and D commitments.......there isn't one showing up on the Maine recruit list.



Seriously? Red has other commitments for 3-4 years out. How long do you want him to wait to recruit a goaltender??? Most of the good ones for 2-3 years out have already been gobbled up. Do you think that we are going to get a top prospect by waiting until the last minute?:rolleyes:



Well, why even follow the team then?:rolleyes: I'm all for realistic expectations, but you just seem way negative.......yet, you don't even think that Maine needs improvement in goal.:confused:
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So what is a realistic expectation for this team? Do you think they are going to the NCAAs next year? Are they going to win HE? I'm realistic after watching the team all year. Its going to take time to get guys in here who can compete at this level. So I don't expect them to be great next year, I hope they improve but I don't see them winning any trophys. BTW who ever said I don't want better goaltending? I do want it and I hope the guys who are here improve. I think they can and should but they'll have to prove that on the ice. Heck I think they can beat Vermont but we'll see on that.

BTW, aren't you the one saying they can't win anything with Morris and Romeo in net?
 
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TERRIERFANinLA said:
I am LOST when you guys write about lack of effort.
WHICH Maine player all weekend long was able to create space between himself and ANY PC player on a breakaway or any play? NONE. I do not think that Maine has a forward who is faster than PC's slowest D man. Acciari might be slow (people said he was, but I did not see it), but if he was, his team mates made up for it.
The D did what they COULD. Rutt was knocking people around in the crease, taking good penalties. (The Major might have been deserved, but, both he and the PC player were skating in the same direction ALONG the boards when Jake make the hit. It was not a hit from behind INTO the boards, rather it might have been a hit to the back of the guy's head as the guy was already going down. Of course I have no idea how head contact made a difference as it was let go all game long. Acciari and Mauerman have no ability to make a hit without following through to the head, but Hayes and Merchant got away with it too, so THAT was not called unfairly.
The D attepted to stand guys up at the blue line. Timmy's boys never did that.
I do not fault the effort. Maine was severely outgunned and Leaman knew how to match lines so Maine never had even a tiny advantage.
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I agree with much of this. I thought the officiating was very inconsistent this weekend. My best example was in the second game a pc forward without the puck crashed the net on a rush and took out Romeo, 30 seconds later Renouf beat his defender and skated it to the net and a defender forced him into making contact with the goalie, the contact was minimal, and he was called for goaltender interference. I thought PC outskated and out worked us both games, finished hits (most late and high) and were scrappier. Every time we tried to respond to their physical play we ended up in the box, the call on Rutt was marginal as were most of the calls. The PC player laid on the ice long enough to make sure it was a 5, then hopped up and went right on the PP. But the officiating isn't why we lost. One reason for teams racking up shots and grade a scoring chances is our tenders inability to control rebounds. Tough weekend coming up but I like our chances. We're better than last time we faced them, and Vt isn't playing as well. But they will be hungry as their ncaa chances ride on winning.
 
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walrus said:
So what is a realistic expectation for this team? Do you think they are going to the NCAAs next year? Are they going to win HE? I'm realistic after watching the team all year. Its going to take time to get guys in here who can compete at this level. So I don't expect them to be great next year, I hope they improve but I don't see them winning any trophys. BTW who ever said I don't want better goaltending? I do want it and I hope the guys who are here improve. I think they can and should but they'll have to prove that on the ice. Heck I think they can beat Vermont but we'll see on that.

BTW, aren't you the one saying they can't win anything with Morris and Romeo in net?
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Yes, I am the one saying that. Seems they are trying to upgrade F and D........but what about G?:confused:

I agree that next season could be rough, although you never know how team chemistry will be affected by outgoing and incoming players.
 
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blackbearbandie said:
Latest from BDN:

Maine will need top-notch goaltending to advance in first-round Hockey East series
By Larry Mahoney, BDN Staff
Posted March 02, 2015, at 5:38 p.m.

http://bangordailynews.com/2015/03/...first-round-hockey-east-series/?ref=SportsBox
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From the article"
Maine head coach Red Gendron says he is happy with his team’s goaltending and noted that they have played some “great games” but apparently not enough to earn them job security as he and assistants Ben Guite and Jay Leach are actively recruiting a goaltender who can step right in and win the starting job next season."

There you go, your wish will be granted
 
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walrus said:
From the article"
Maine head coach Red Gendron says he is happy with his team’s goaltending and noted that they have played some “great games” but apparently not enough to earn them job security as he and assistants Ben Guite and Jay Leach are actively recruiting a goaltender who can step right in and win the starting job next season."

There you go, your wish will be granted
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yeah well we all know our D has to clear the net front to avoid the screens(Hammy, Rutt, Riley, Rheanouf). And on the other end we need to battle to make screens(Merchant, Vesey, Lacroix, Byron, Morgan, Hayes).

Win the net fronts. Only chance of beating Vermont. Win the slot and the middle of the ice and patch your wounds after the season is done.

And umainhockey91,

U have a bone to pick. But you are picking on the wrong bone. You come across as an idiot. Just figured you would like an fyi...
 
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all bear said:
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Maine really struggles with larger, more physical type teams as witnessed this weekend. If you can get in tight, scoring is a piece of cake with these guys. I had higher hopes for this team, but it appears they weren't prepared to begin the season right, and they generally lacked the talent throughout the lines to compete. A lot of work needs to be done .....not sure the present characters have what it takes to be a serious player in this league next year. Fore !
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You haven't seen Vermont implode down the stretch..... I think UVM will manage to pull it out but this will be ugly for UVM fans...and it wouldn't surpise me if Maine wins.
 
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BlackI said:
And umainhockey91,

U have a bone to pick. But you are picking on the wrong bone. You come across as an idiot. Just figured you would like an fyi...
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Yeah.....OK.:rolleyes: I'll stick with what Gendron, Leach and Guite said in the BDN article that you obviously didn't read........;):rolleyes:

Putz.
 
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umhockey91 said:
Yeah.....OK.:rolleyes: I'll stick with what Gendron, Leach and Guite said in the BDN article that you obviously didn't read........;):rolleyes:

Putz.
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Written by Mahoney and you take it as gospel.

Here is a loving quote... "Morris made 37 saves on Friday night, and Romeo had 39 on Saturday."

Hmmm, I would have thought it isn't a good idea to give up near 40 shots to the opposing team.

Well, I must have been a putz to think that.

Only you and Larry are the genious types that think giving up near 40 shots is a normal way to win hockey as long as you have that all world goalie.

I think you and Larry are destined to be together and would welcome falling out of a plane together.

The types that would fall out and pull the rip cord when you are 10 feet off the ground and trust it and never question why it may not work so well. I mean, after all the instructions told you it would save your life if you pulled the cord(regardless of the particulars).

You are definitely a few fries short of a happy meal.
 
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BlackI said:
yeah well we all know our D has to clear the net front to avoid the screens(Hammy, Rutt, Riley, Rheanouf). And on the other end we need to battle to make screens(Merchant, Vesey, Lacroix, Byron, Morgan, Hayes).

Win the net fronts. Only chance of beating Vermont. Win the slot and the middle of the ice and patch your wounds after the season is done.

And umainhockey91,

U have a bone to pick. But you are picking on the wrong bone. You come across as an idiot. Just figured you would like an fyi...
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"Maine head coach Red Gendron says he is happy with his team’s goaltending and noted that they have played some “great games” but apparently not enough to earn them job security as he and assistants Ben Guite and Jay Leach are actively recruiting a goaltender who can step right in and win the starting job next season."

A little bit thick, aren't ya?;):rolleyes:
 
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The hockey games this weekend WILL be televised! Locally the games will be on WVII, WFVX and WPME and nationally on Fox College Sports Atlantic.
 
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Hockeyman99 said:
I agree with much of this. I thought the officiating was very inconsistent this weekend. My best example was in the second game a pc forward without the puck crashed the net on a rush and took out Romeo, 30 seconds later Renouf beat his defender and skated it to the net and a defender forced him into making contact with the goalie, the contact was minimal, and he was called for goaltender interference. I thought PC outskated and out worked us both games, finished hits (most late and high) and were scrappier. Every time we tried to respond to their physical play we ended up in the box, the call on Rutt was marginal as were most of the calls. The PC player laid on the ice long enough to make sure it was a 5, then hopped up and went right on the PP. But the officiating isn't why we lost. One reason for teams racking up shots and grade a scoring chances is our tenders inability to control rebounds. Tough weekend coming up but I like our chances. We're better than last time we faced them, and Vt isn't playing as well. But they will be hungry as their ncaa chances ride on winning.
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I am not sure if you care... but you and I saw THE EXACT SAME game and I agree with every word you wrote... the officiating was bad, one sided and not the reason maine lost.
there were literally 3 off sides in a row that were let go, (I was on the right blue line and I officiated for about 20 years), during that stretch, there was a PC icing that was let go as Hamilton was chasing it down and could not get it, it was waved off AFTER the puck crossed the line, not when the linesman[] determined that Hamilton COULD get to it.
and I was going to scream about the Renouf call, he was only guilty of being thrown into an opposing goaltender. I can go on, but as we both said, Maine was not gonna win that game, and PC should have had another 5-7 easy, open net goals. Rodrigues, Oreagan Oksanen, Eichel, Kevin Roy, and a few others in hockey east would have banged most of those goals home. (oh Leen's embellishment call teh night before was laughable.. .Leen was hauled down and fell on his ***, almost on his head and was called for embellishment... which is ususally called when someone does a forward Robbie Earl dive.)
 
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