Maine Hockey 2014-15 Volume 2: Red's Revenge

[umhockey91]

Re: Maine Hockey 2014-15 Volume 2: Red's Revenge

Scott Darling looking great so far tonight. Facing Talbot of the NYR, who went to UAH (!). Anson Carter just commented that neither of those guys went to "traditional hockey powerhouses"...

Nice to be lumped-in with Huntsville. Is there any doubt that Maine's cachet has expired?

Michigan State hasn't exactly set the world on fire recently either. Anson Carter.......pfft.

 

[rufus]

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I stick by what I have been saying all year... they did give it their all, but there just was not a lot of "all" there.

I cannot think of too many selfish plays this whole season, so if you are saying that some of them played for their own accollades or points, I have to wonder what you saw that I didn't

yeah, that's why they came out flat for so many games, or took so many periods off. By their own admission, by the way, not just my opinion. If you're giving it your all, then you don't take periods off.

 

[TERRIERFANinLA]

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yeah, that's why they came out flat for so many games, or took so many periods off. By their own admission, by the way, not just my opinion. If you're giving it your all, then you don't take periods off.

such bs.

if you were at the games you would have seen that Maine, for the most part just could not keep up with an above average skater. Hhow many foot races did a bear win against a single PC skater or BU skater? Maine's forwards could not beat a single PC defenseman if the Bear started out with a lead. Shouldn't Maine's fastest skater be able to create a gap and skate away from Providence's slowest Dman?

it had nothing to do with not trying... what did you expect them to say, they are just not a good D1 team overall?

Maine NEVER came out flying against a top team. Maine never dogged it against Merrimack or UMass... how is that?

 

[Hockeyman99]

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such bs.

if you were at the games you would have seen that Maine, for the most part just could not keep up with an above average skater. how many foot raced did a bear win against a single PC skater or BU skater? Maine's forwards could not beat a single PC defenseman if the bear started out with a lead. Shouldn't Maine's fastest skater be able to create a gap and skate away from Providence's slowest Dman?

it had nothing to do with not trying... what did you expect them to say, they are just not a good D1 team overall?

Maine NEVER came out flying against a top team. Maine never dogged it against Merrimack or UMass... how is that?

How else to explain the Jekyll and Hyde performances on back to back nights? Also witnessed many selfish plays, from bad angle shots with a teammate open to our solo breakout. Other teams moved the puck up ice with passes, we carried it.

 

[Chairman of the Boards]

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How else to explain the Jekyll and Hyde performances on back to back nights? Also witnessed many selfish plays, from bad angle shots with a teammate open to our solo breakout. Other teams moved the puck up ice with passes, we carried it.

Overcarried it. That's why they got pinned in D- zone so often. And too many times looking to the long passes which resulted in icings instead of short quick passes. IMO that's a reflection on coach.

 

[umhockey91]

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I think that chemistry and team play are 2 areas that will improve next season. How many of TIMMAY's guys are left?

 

[Drew S.]

such bs.

if you were at the games you would have seen that Maine, for the most part just could not keep up with an above average skater. how many foot raced did a bear win against a single PC skater or BU skater? Maine's forwards could not beat a single PC defenseman if the bear started out with a lead. Shouldn't Maine's fastest skater be able to create a gap and skate away from Providence's slowest Dman?

it had nothing to do with not trying... what did you expect them to say, they are just not a good D1 team overall?

Maine NEVER came out flying against a top team. Maine never dogged it against Merrimack or UMass... how is that?

Agree with this. I think that coaches and players are being kind when they say the effort wasn't there versus the team wasn't very talented. I don't beleive Maine was blown out once all year and the only weekend where Maine really played poor the entire weekend was at home against Vermont.

 

[ck1969]

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Agree with this. I think that coaches and players are being kind when they say the effort wasn't there versus the team wasn't very talented. I don't beleive Maine was blown out once all year and the only weekend where Maine really played poor the entire weekend was at home against Vermont.

I don't know, I think losing 5-1, 4-1 is kinda getting blown out. They lost by 3 goals or more 10 times. Saying they didn't put in the effort is worse than saying they didn't have the talent to keep up IMO.

 

[BoSox3066]

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Team was better in 2013-14 than in 2014-15 so what difference does it make how many of "Tims guys" are around? They lost "Tim guys" from Reds first year to second and got way worse, whys it automatically assumed that losing more will make them better?

 

[Priceless]

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I don't know, I think losing 5-1, 4-1 is kinda getting blown out. They lost by 3 goals or more 10 times. Saying they didn't put in the effort is worse than saying they didn't have the talent to keep up IMO.

That's slightly misleading, since they gave up empty net goals in eight games - including six that they lost by 3+. Throw out the empty net goals and that 10 is cut in half.

Very few on that team gave 100% effort 100% of the time, but they also didn't have the talent to compete at the highest levels night in and night out. It isn't an "either/or" situation. Some nights both were true.

 

[Runsub5]

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Overcarried it. That's why they got pinned in D- zone so often. And too many times looking to the long passes which resulted in icings instead of short quick passes. IMO that's a reflection on coach.

Exactly. They did the same thing over and over without making any adjustments. They couldn't carry the puck out of the defensive zone without turning it over (in fairness they got better later in the season). The opposition knew Maine's weaknesses and took advantage.

 

[TERRIERFANinLA]

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How else to explain the Jekyll and Hyde performances on back to back nights? Also witnessed many selfish plays, from bad angle shots with a teammate open to our solo breakout. Other teams moved the puck up ice with passes, we carried it.

the ONLy Jeckyl and Hyde weekend I remmber was against Notre Dame.... the only one I remember and Maine was spent after night 1, because Notre Dame is a better team, but not a world beater. It seems to me that if Maine were truly jeckyl and hyde, then some of the better nights would have happend on Saturday when they were tired, not on Friday when they were fresh.

which other one do you remember?

 

[TERRIERFANinLA]

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Exactly. They did the same thing over and over without making any adjustments. They couldn't carry the puck out of the defensive zone without turning it over (in fairness they got better later in the season). The opposition knew Maine's weaknesses and took advantage.

I saw that as practice for next season.... same reason Hayes played over Cerretani. for next season.

 

[umhockey91]

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Team was better in 2013-14 than in 2014-15 so what difference does it make how many of "Tims guys" are around? They lost "Tim guys" from Reds first year to second and got way worse, whys it automatically assumed that losing more will make them better?

It makes Red more accountable and takes the last line of excuses away if they are players that he recruited.

 

[ck1969]

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That's slightly misleading, since they gave up empty net goals in eight games - including six that they lost by 3+. Throw out the empty net goals and that 10 is cut in half.

Very few on that team gave 100% effort 100% of the time, but they also didn't have the talent to compete at the highest levels night in and night out. It isn't an "either/or" situation. Some nights both were true.

Yes I know ENG play a factor in the outcome. But at the end of the day the final score is the final score. I guess my point is this team lacked talent and needed to give 100% effort for 60 min every night. And they didn't by their own admission. I blame 60% on the kids and 40% on the staff. Either way it doesn't matter. How many TIMMAY kids doesn't matter. If these kids are there to play D-1 hockey, get a free education and hopefully make it to the next level then 100% effort every time they step on the ice is mandatory. Period! If you were given a job by the University in return for tuition and an opportunity to be hired by a fortune 500 company at the end of college and you showed up late, didn't do the job right etc etc what would be the consequences then? Kinda the same deal. It's just frustrating.

 

[walrus]

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I saw that as practice for next season.... same reason Hayes played over Cerretani. for next season.

You saw what as practice for next season, not being able to carry the puck out of the zone? I would have played any freshman over Cerretani. He is for sure a hard worker but wouldn't have made a difference in any game this past season. Hopefully some of this years freshman will make a difference in future games. That remains to be seen though

 

[hobeyfaker]

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Team was better in 2013-14 than in 2014-15 so what difference does it make how many of "Tims guys" are around? They lost "Tim guys" from Reds first year to second and got way worse, whys it automatically assumed that losing more will make them better?

Bingo, this is what I've been saying all year. After losing their 2 best players, what are the chances that the new recruits and development of returning players are going to offset that? I don't see next year being any better than this year and I bet the pre season coaches poll will reflect just that. Maine will be picked no higher than 8th.

 

[walrus]

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Bingo, this is what I've been saying all year. After losing their 2 best players, what are the chances that the new recruits and development of returning players are going to offset that? I don't see next year being any better than this year and I bet the pre season coaches poll will reflect just that. Maine will be picked no higher than 8th.

I doubt they are picked as high as 8th, 10th is more like it. But the key to next season in D and goaltending, will they improve?

 

[Hockeyman99]

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the ONLy Jeckyl and Hyde weekend I remmber was against Notre Dame.... the only one I remember and Maine was spent after night 1, because Notre Dame is a better team, but not a world beater. It seems to me that if Maine were truly jeckyl and hyde, then some of the better nights would have happend on Saturday when they were tired, not on Friday when they were fresh.

which other one do you remember?

Northeastern for one, UNH in Dec. When we showed up and worked hard we could skate with anybody, BC, BU, Notre Dame, but couldn't (wouldn't) maintain the consistent effort.

 

[Priceless]

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Who the hell cares where the media and/or coaches pick them in October? Would it make anyone feel better if they were picked fourth? Or picked to win Hockey East?