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Maine Hockey 2013-2014 - Red White Bleeding Blue...

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Look at it this way: when you go to a Bruins game, the premium seats are too expensive for most of us to buy. We don't insist they lower the price, we buy more affordable seats.

yeah, but the Bruins have recently won a Stanley Cup, and they sell out their building.
 
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Right. They were withholding them to make the math more difficult.

I am not sure that Drew's thought is so absurd.

Have you ever taken a look at how the UMaine System calculates ANYTHING dealing with money?

there is always obfuscation and outright lies, what makes you think that hockey ticket sales would be any different?

...how did Reagan put it? "so much of what some people know just isn't so".
 
I am not sure that Drew's thought is so absurd.

Have you ever taken a look at how the UMaine System calculates ANYTHING dealing with money?

there is always obfuscation and outright lies, what makes you think that hockey ticket sales would be any different?

...how did Reagan put it? "so much of what some people know just isn't so".

If they're lying then there's really no point in even discussing the price issue.
 
yeah, but the Bruins have recently won a Stanley Cup, and they sell out their building.

OK, Columbus then. Never won a Stanley Cup, 28th in the league in attendance. Think they're going to lower premium seats so everyone can buy them? No. A front row seat is still $225/game. Does that mean people don't go to their games? No, it means people buy more affordable tickets elsewhere in the arena.

If it was up to me, I would leave the $50 seats alone. Keep the seatbacks in the lower bowl at $23, trim the lower bowl bleachers to $20, upper bowl bleachers lower to $16 with a $10 children's ticket for either bleacher section. If there are more students than will fit in the balcony, sit them behind the benches to fill in the empty season ticket seats.
 
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If they're lying then there's really no point in even discussing the price issue.

Read the article again, no where in there does anyone say that the $50 seats have been a huge success as far as season tickets are concerned. It is something you completely made up on your own. The university could give half of those seats away for all we know and thats why they're not 'available' for individual game sales.
 
Read the article again, no where in there does anyone say that the $50 seats have been a huge success as far as season tickets are concerned. It is something you completely made up on your own. The university could give half of those seats away for all we know and thats why they're not 'available' for individual game sales.

That makes perfect sense. Price tickets at $50 and then give them away. And apparently they give them away to people who then don't go to the game. But they remain available on the website, because there must have been a thousand of them according to Bob (even though there aren't that many $50 seats in the building). No wonder things at the university are so screwed up.
 
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Most of those 266 unsold seats must be around the Maine bench. As others have mentioned there is a huge void there. Another issue is the policy of requiring anyone purchasing one of these 266 seats, to make a donation in addition to purchasing the season ticket package. I think the donation is in the $500 - $700.

That's because those seats absolutely stink. Ours were there for a few years, you can't see anything because the coaches stand at the same level as the first row. There is a stanchion impeding the view of the goal to the right, and the backup goalie and trainer stand in the way of the goal to the left.

Most of the season ticket holders there wait to see if people a few rows above show up, and if not, they move up there.

Those things should be sold as obstructed view.
 
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That makes perfect sense. Price tickets at $50 and then give them away. And apparently they give them away to people who then don't go to the game. But they remain available on the website, because there must have been a thousand of them according to Bob (even though there aren't that many $50 seats in the building). No wonder things at the university are so screwed up.

Priceless you seem to continue to defend and now are comparing Maine to the Bruins or I'm sorry Columbus. You say it is only a couple hundred for sale, and lord knows you take the time to count them. All I can tell you is that when I went on the site to buy tickets for the last home game there were way too many for sale at $50 each. So Columbus is a good example, like Orono it's a college town! So let's say the new NHL franchise moves to Bangor, into a 6,000 seat arena. What is the goal of this new business. Is it A) to charge as much as possible extracting every dollar from ticket holders? Or is it B) to fill the building, introduce new people to the product, get people to buy merchandise, tell friends about the experience and have people come back for more?

If your answer is A congratulations you are the current University of Maine! In a small market your goal is to get as much as possible from the people who have been feeding the program for years, and have succeeded in not only disenfranchising many of your former patrons by placing them out of the market, you also have succeeded in not introducing new people to your product. The example, as you point out so well is that not only are there $50 seats available, there are also plenty of $23 seats. Why? Because the market can not "bear" this price tag!

If you want to run a SUCCESSFUL business you price your product to meet demand and leave some money in the wallets of your fans so they can spend money on your insignia products, programs, concessions, and on reinvesting in the program.

I disagree vehemently with those who are afraid that if they ask for less their current season ticket holders will give less. The goal is not to sell the same amount of tickets, it is to sell MORE! These season ticket holders should be rewarded for their past contributions and if it means $50 tickets are now $30, make a one time plea to these donors to give more this year in donations. I know were it me, and having seen the product last year I would be more enthused and be willing to give more. So if I am saving $400 on season tickets maybe I would be willing to give an extra $200 to the University. But it has to be done, the Orono community can not support these ticket prices and as a result we will continue to see more blue seats vacant. Penny wise pound foolish, yankee frugality be ****ed! Believe in your product and the dollars will come back.

Shawn built this place and the people will come, but first give them a chance to come back! I can't begin to tell you how many games we took our daughters to when they were kids. Both daughters enjoyed going to games so much, had jerseys, and for our oldest she watched the pep band and decided one day she wanted to be up in the balcony as a member of that pep band. That daughter fulfilled her goals and spent four years playing in the pep band and is a proud Maine alum. Today, given the ticket prices and what I was making back at the start of my career, neither one of my daughters would have been going to games, and my wife, a lifelong fan now, would have stayed home. The result would have been less interest in the sport and one less student at the University of Maine. $100 for 4 $23 tickets for a young family is way too much money for a college hockey game. Especially in Orono, Maine.
 
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Read the article again, no where in there does anyone say that the $50 seats have been a huge success as far as season tickets are concerned. It is something you completely made up on your own. The university could give half of those seats away for all we know and thats why they're not 'available' for individual game sales.
Drew, you're looking for something in black and white that just isn't going to be there. You need to learn to read between the lines, to be able to connect the dots. As much as this pains me to say, Priceless is right on the math. If there are 960 total and 266 are regularly available, there is a multitude of possibilities for the other 694. They could be given to the friends and family of the administration. They could be used to paper a hamster's cage. They could be given to African schoolchildren. They could be sitting in somebody's desk drawer, forgotten. Go ahead and use your own imagination on where they could be. But the most likely scenario - by far - is that they were probably sold as season tickets. So Priceless stated it as a fact instead of as a probability so likely that considering any other possibility is foolishness. So sue him. But that is what is really horribly obvious.
 
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Drew, you're looking for something in black and white that just isn't going to be there. You need to learn to read between the lines, to be able to connect the dots. As much as this pains me to say, Priceless is right on the math.

umm, the way I read it, Drew IS the one connecting the dots and not just regurgitating what the University reports as fact. That is kind of the definition of "reading between the lines, isn't it?"

Priceless cannot be right on the math, if he is not reading between the lines, can he?
 
umm, the way I read it, Drew IS the one connecting the dots and not just regurgitating what the University reports as fact. That is kind of the definition of "reading between the lines, isn't it?"

Priceless cannot be right on the math, if he is not reading between the lines, can he?

As I said, if the university is lying on the basic numbers then there's certainly no point in discussing it.

In any event, I'm done arguing. Have it your way. University professors are decorating their offices in origami made out of the $50 tickets that are "unavailable" for sale each game. If it weren't for the $50 ticket everything would be wonderful at the university. Run with that. I'm out.
 
As I said, if the university is lying on the basic numbers then there's certainly no point in discussing it.

In any event, I'm done arguing. Have it your way. University professors are decorating their offices in origami made out of the $50 tickets that are "unavailable" for sale each game. If it weren't for the $50 ticket everything would be wonderful at the university. Run with that. I'm out.

The university never said that they had sold X number of $50 season tickets or that the scheme had been a success, that came from you.
 
Re: Maine Hockey 2013-2014 - Red White Bleeding Blue...

The real problem with ticket sales a umaine is that area has lost a lot of higher paying jobs in the last 15 years (James river, Great Northern, Woodland, Eastern fine , Lemforder corp . Webber oil , and more that I have not refered to. The price gas $3.75 ,and heating oil $3.25 a gal has take any disposable income that people have to spend on tickets for Hockey. more job in the area and oil prices in control the problem of ticket sales go away.
 
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The real problem with ticket sales a umaine is that area has lost a lot of higher paying jobs in the last 15 years (James river, Great Northern, Woodland, Eastern fine , Lemforder corp . Webber oil , and more that I have not refered to. The price gas $3.75 ,and heating oil $3.25 a gal has take any disposable income that people have to spend on tickets for Hockey. more job in the area and oil prices in control the problem of ticket sales go away.
Where are you getting oil for $3.25? I would've gone to more games this year if that was the price I was paying..
 
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Where are you getting oil for $3.25? I would've gone to more games this year if that was the price I was paying..

The athletic department was counting on the fans when it raised ticket prices a few years ago to make tradeoffs and keep buying tickets: forgo your heating oil, and Go Blue! There's not too many "die-hard" fans left, apparently.
 
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Where are you getting oil for $3.25? I would've gone to more games this year if that was the price I was paying..
I just filled tank, 750 bucks, unreal. Glad I burn wood cause that bill every month would kill me.

if you can afford it and your house is open floor plan, you should really be looking at Mini Split heat pumps.
 
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I just filled tank, 750 bucks, unreal. Glad I burn wood cause that bill every month would kill me.

if you can afford it and your house is open floor plan, you should really be looking at Mini Split heat pumps.


yep... paid $3.40 last week for 215 gallons... fml... minisplits work great, and have the added benefit of cooling during the summer....
 
Re: Maine Hockey 2013-2014 - Red White Bleeding Blue...

The university never said that they had sold X number of $50 season tickets or that the scheme had been a success, that came from you.
Give us five likely possibilities for where the 694 tickets went.
 
Re: Maine Hockey 2013-2014 - Red White Bleeding Blue...

Sell all seats at $285,000. each. You only need to sell one to equal 5,700 seats at $50.
If they sell two, the bean counters will go orgasmic!
 
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