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Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

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Drew S. said:
That's just how college hockey is nowadays. You're rarely going to get more than one good season out of a player. The entry level contracts are so limited I'm not sure waiting an extra year would have done him much good. Holway should be a good replacement for him and you would hope the guys who return are improved over last season.
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What he said. That's the college sports landscape of today (not just hockey). I don't think it will impact the team nearly as much as losing Hutton/Shore (no disrespect to Dan, he's a good solid two-way defenseman), especially given the recruiting class Maine has coming in.
 
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Meh. If you get a really really good player that doesn't break out until junior year, you're arguably likely to keep him so he can become a free agent (like Vesey's brother). Draft picks that develop and play well you're looking at 1-3 years......undrafted kids are the ones most likely to bolt, I think (Mangene, Purcell, Renouf, etc).
 
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BoSox3066 said:
Meh. If you get a really really good player that doesn't break out until junior year, you're arguably likely to keep him so he can become a free agent (like Vesey's brother). Draft picks that develop and play well you're looking at 1-3 years......undrafted kids are the ones most likely to bolt, I think (Mangene, Purcell, Renouf, etc).
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All Programs have these problems, just when a Maine loses a top player...it hurts more as there talent level in the last 4-5 years can't reload like say a BU/BC/N.Dak/MN.
 
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BoSox3066 said:
Meh. If you get a really really good player that doesn't break out until junior year, you're arguably likely to keep him so he can become a free agent (like Vesey's brother). Draft picks that develop and play well you're looking at 1-3 years......undrafted kids are the ones most likely to bolt, I think (Mangene, Purcell, Renouf, etc).
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I never realized that Teddy was undrafted. He was ready for the AHL as a Freshman at Maine. Could use another one or two guys like him right now.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
I never realized that Teddy was undrafted. He was ready for the AHL as a Freshman at Maine. Could use another one or two guys like him right now.
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This roster coming into 2016-17 needs a lot, from goaltending/defense/scoring...there's nothing that Maine has to date that they couldn't use more of. This is a down & out Program with a long ways to go before they can say they've turned the corner and headed in the right direction.
 
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Steve Piotrowski found new work as a basketball referee in America East.
 
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ticapnews said:
Steve Piotrowski found new work as a basketball referee in America East.
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Basketball has to be one of the worst games to call...sometimes they let them play...sometimes its tickey/tackey...frustrating game when its not call the same way...which I think it was but effected Maine more down the end, Tough ending no matter how you see it. But they had there chances also.
 
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Ma#1ne Hky said:
Basketball has to be one of the worst games to call...sometimes they let them play...sometimes its tickey/tackey...frustrating game when its not call the same way...which I think it was but effected Maine more down the end, Tough ending no matter how you see it. But they had there chances also.
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Maine had 2 chances to win at the buzzer, first one they had the ball where they wanted it and who they wanted taking the shot, airball. Second one, they didn't, could have been foul but chances of getting that call in Albany are slim and none. Thought Maine played well, Sigi is very impressive but they need some height that can move. Now the question is, what happens to Baron, sign? or is he gone?? I'd rather watch Womens BBall then mens hockey at this point
 
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walrus said:
Maine had 2 chances to win at the buzzer, first one they had the ball where they wanted it and who they wanted taking the shot, airball. Second one, they didn't, could have been foul but chances of getting that call in Albany are slim and none. Thought Maine played well, Sigi is very impressive but they need some height that can move. Now the question is, what happens to Baron, sign? or is he gone?? I'd rather watch Womens BBall then mens hockey at this point
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Going into this game I didn't think Maine would win, but they kept it closer than I thought they would. The last few games of the season they have struggled offensively. It appeared to me there was a lot of standing around and were not working hard to get open for good shots. Played much better offensively earlier in the season. Defensively, I thought they played well down the stretch. Big holes to fill next season with most of the starters graduating. Good question on Barron leaving or staying. Most people I talk to seem to think he is committed to Maine. We'll see.
 
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Well its something that many know is happening and has been happening.."IF" it can ONLY OPEN others eye's and pocketbook$ to the PROBLEM that is going on, then GREAT but I don't know if it will. I still think(imo)that you need people in charge that have College Hockey back-grounds in Div.1 and know the area/State and what it means to have a Program that is going in the right direction, you can say/print whatever but something has to happen and SOONER not later is what's needed. Glad to see the Article...but I do still come away frustrated that it will only be that...TALK and little to NO ACTION. It many sound negative but it's not suppose to be, just the facts are facts, as of late nothing comes out positive in this Program going forward.
 
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ticapnews said:
I didn't major in accounting at the university but when expenditures exceed revenue I believe that's called a deficit.
http://www.pressherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/817740_153936-UMEhockeyFinances031.jpg

For the record, I don't believe the numbers for a second, but that is the bull$#!t the school is feeding us, so...
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Either the school cuts football and redirects those resources to a winning, money making hockey team, or the school keeps its money losing JV football team and has a money losing bad hockey team. There's no in between. It's one or the other.
 
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I dont understand why you keep saying this. The football team brought in 725000 from its two FBS games last year which is like 85 percent of the hockey teams revenue for the entire season.

There arent going to be any resources to redirect to the hockey team, that moneys gone if Maine doesnt play those games
 
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I agree. AMC is a fine human being, but I can't for the life of me understand why he has such a hahd-on for dropping football. Cos kept Maine relevant -and even excellent at times- for many years. Hope this new guy can continue to pluck talent from places like NJ.

( One thing I *think* is going to happen within a couple of years is that BCS wins v. FCS teams will not factor into the BCS equation anymore... So Maine needs to schedule 'Bama ASAP! )
 
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BoSox3066 said:
I dont understand why you keep saying this. The football team brought in 725000 from its two FBS games last year which is like 85 percent of the hockey teams revenue for the entire season.

There arent going to be any resources to redirect to the hockey team, that moneys gone if Maine doesnt play those games
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Yes but does it cover Footballs expenses? No is the answer from what I understand. Football is never getting cut.
 
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BoSox3066 said:
I dont understand why you keep saying this. The football team brought in 725000 from its two FBS games last year which is like 85 percent of the hockey teams revenue for the entire season.

There arent going to be any resources to redirect to the hockey team, that moneys gone if Maine doesnt play those games
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That's nice but it doesn't erase the $1M black hole the football program creates in the athletic budget. The team would have to play all four NC games against D-I opposition and collect another $700K to even come close to covering the losses.
 
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