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LSSU Lakers 2014 off-season thread (part 2)

Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off-season thread (part 2)

sm2pk said:
It bothers me how much is being said what a great recruiter Whitten is and he has recruited players that for the most part lose more games than they win and are never a serious threat to winning league titles or making the NCAA tournaments. I also love how he talked about Laker history and the great coaches they had and skipped past Anzalone . Seems Whittens first line of work is to follow the script .
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Without a doubt! I finally got a chance to watch the press conference, and all I have to say is that Whitten was properly prepped to say just what the Athletic Director wanted him to say. What a mouthpiece he is! I was bothered that he didn't mention Frank Anzalone as well. Another thing that was bogus was how he talked about what a hockey mom the Athletic Director is. Having had kids come up through the SMHA, I can attest to the kind of people the Dunbar's are. Starting with her hockey coach husband, who was a part of the Borek coaching staff, and ran the Laker Hockey program into the ground. He also single-handedly turned the Sault Michigan Hockey Association against him by moving a team to St. Ignace. He did this because he wasn't selected by the SMHA Board to coach his kids. Seems he was unable to follow the rules and exhibit professional behavior on the ice. His hockey schemes are selfish and serve only to benefit their kids.

The Dunbars have a lot of haters in the Sault. Last year their neighbor had to take them all the way to the city commission for their immature and harassing behavior. The neighbor got the support of the commission for their behavior to stop. All of this was over an ice rink they built behind their house.

Let's not forget either that Kris Dunbar got Bill Crawford moved to another position at LSSU so that she could take his job as the AD!

Next time, maybe Whitten ought to do his homework before he makes dumb statements about what a hockey family the AD and her husband are. Their record in that regard isn't all bright and shiney.
 
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off-season thread (part 2)

Anchors Aweigh said:
I thought this forum had enough with Roque’s depravity, so I had kept quiet about it. Meantime, the toxic Roquettes army is still around calumniating honest people and spreading their propaganda on the net to show Jim Roque as the victim, without anyone here standing up and saying what informed people know.

Politically correct statements at press conferences is just standard practice; I’ve heard Roque’s awesome job being praised by people who meantime were preparing for getting rid of him. Just listen to players at the hockey show and sit with them a few hours later.

Rather than slandering whoever is not on your guru’s tribe, why don’t you ask - and answer - the real question: Why was Jim Roque fired?
Kris Dunbar had no choice but to acknowledge that keeping Jim Roque around had become increasingly unsafe in many respects. Taking advantage of an expired contract, she crossed her fingers that an unexpected end of season winning burst would not happen and make it too difficult to justify without giving the true reasons and boost the Roquettes.
She wishes she had done it several years earlier when she was informed about troubling facts, but just didn’t have the guts, or experience, or support, to face the consequences.
The reactions for just not renewing a contract for a coach who had brought nothing after nine years suggest what it would have been like with the slightest achievement.

If Kris Dunbar is to be blamed, it should be for for letting Jim Roque loose and failing to fulfil her supervisory role, and deliberately ignoring the facts brought to her attention. She may have to face the consequence for her negligence, but not in this post.
The poor performance, low attendance or whatever allegedly is all the AD’S fault are not the reasons why Jim Roque was fired.

After slandering Joe Shawhan who was deceived by Jim Roque when questioning his practices, the Roquettes now bring in Anzalone, who hired and taught Jim Roque the job, but was later thrown under the bus by the same ungrateful person. Sure, Anzalone crossed the line at times, and I am by no means an Anzalone supporter in this respect, but in all fairness, Anzalone was almost harmless compared to Roque.

Bright abusers and indeed manipulators in general often manage to live a whole life destroying people and their environment while still making themselves out to be quiet and “even keeled” people. When they are not so bright, they make disturbing mistakes like running after a referee on the ice, calling the police against a linesman, going ape**** in the locker room with no reason or staying totalling impassive when a reaction is expected, disappearing for days or weeks without letting players know what's next, humiliating players publicly during a game or in front of teammates, grabbing a player by the jersey and bluntly pulling him out of team picture, ignoring the opponents coach when shaking hands and still denying despite the cameras … just mentioning a few.

Only the tip of the iceberg is visible but, behind the scenes, staff, supervisors, assistants, broadcasters, referees and of course players experienced or witnessed intimidation, manipulation, interference, and other abusive behaviors, leading many players and parents to suspect the man is sick since, in addition to numerous deceptions, serious distress was intentionally caused to his scapegoats to freeze them out.

This is what the next organization hiring Jim Roque will get if they fail to do their homework, but as far as the Lakers are concerned, it is a huge stone being pulled out of the shoe, which is great news.

All other things being equal (recruitment, finance etc ...), just bringing this nuisance to an end will surely give anyone around the team a chance to contribute for the best, and at least the Athletic Director has a chance to adjust and learn from experience. Fans should be confident that the coach and the AD will now work together. They can be pretty positive about the Lakers improving significantly before long, and should do their part by attending games and donating.

There is no doubt that there will be other repercussions than just ending the contract, but this will have no effect on the team’s performance, and is therefore outside the scope of this post. As a matter of fact, it didn’t raise much interest when it was pertinent, mostly giving rise to scornful comments by moronic posters.

Jim Roque followers should now stop using this post for their propaganda aimed only at sabotaging the people now in charge and making Jim Roque appear as a victim.

I also encourage the Anti-Roquettes, (including the “Truths” and several others) who believe that Jim Roque should be held accountable, to refrain from upsetting peaceful posters by bringing it up here and instead join energy within a group already dealing with the matter in a discreet but factual and more efficient way.

Hopefully this will help this thread move on, concentrating on it’s core objectives which are exchanging ideas, reflecting on how the Lakers perform, and recommending ways on how to improve.
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You said a lot and made great points. Thanks
 
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off-season thread (part 2)

lakeranchor said:
Without a doubt! I finally got a chance to watch the press conference, and all I have to say is that Whitten was properly prepped to say just what the Athletic Director wanted him to say.

Boy, I must have missed that press conference. I will admit I was a little apprehensive about him, since I new nothing about him but the press conference I watched Coach Whitten seemed pretty sincere and was very excited about leading LSSU Hockey. After listening to him and doing some reading about his background and as a Laker fan I'm excited to see what he will do in the coming years
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Anchors Aweigh said:
I thought this forum had enough with Roque’s depravity, so I had kept quiet about it. Meantime, the toxic Roquettes army is still around calumniating honest people and spreading their propaganda on the net to show Jim Roque as the victim, without anyone here standing up and saying what informed people know.

Politically correct statements at press conferences is just standard practice; I’ve heard Roque’s awesome job being praised by people who meantime were preparing for getting rid of him. Just listen to players at the hockey show and sit with them a few hours later.

Rather than slandering whoever is not on your guru’s tribe, why don’t you ask - and answer - the real question: Why was Jim Roque fired?
Kris Dunbar had no choice but to acknowledge that keeping Jim Roque around had become increasingly unsafe in many respects. Taking advantage of an expired contract, she crossed her fingers that an unexpected end of season winning burst would not happen and make it too difficult to justify without giving the true reasons and boost the Roquettes.
She wishes she had done it several years earlier when she was informed about troubling facts, but just didn’t have the guts, or experience, or support, to face the consequences.
The reactions for just not renewing a contract for a coach who had brought nothing after nine years suggest what it would have been like with the slightest achievement.

If Kris Dunbar is to be blamed, it should be for for letting Jim Roque loose and failing to fulfil her supervisory role, and deliberately ignoring the facts brought to her attention. She may have to face the consequence for her negligence, but not in this post.
The poor performance, low attendance or whatever allegedly is all the AD’S fault are not the reasons why Jim Roque was fired.

After slandering Joe Shawhan who was deceived by Jim Roque when questioning his practices, the Roquettes now bring in Anzalone, who hired and taught Jim Roque the job, but was later thrown under the bus by the same ungrateful person. Sure, Anzalone crossed the line at times, and I am by no means an Anzalone supporter in this respect, but in all fairness, Anzalone was almost harmless compared to Roque.

Bright abusers and indeed manipulators in general often manage to live a whole life destroying people and their environment while still making themselves out to be quiet and “even keeled” people. When they are not so bright, they make disturbing mistakes like running after a referee on the ice, calling the police against a linesman, going ape**** in the locker room with no reason or staying totalling impassive when a reaction is expected, disappearing for days or weeks without letting players know what's next, humiliating players publicly during a game or in front of teammates, grabbing a player by the jersey and bluntly pulling him out of team picture, ignoring the opponents coach when shaking hands and still denying despite the cameras … just mentioning a few.

Only the tip of the iceberg is visible but, behind the scenes, staff, supervisors, assistants, broadcasters, referees and of course players experienced or witnessed intimidation, manipulation, interference, and other abusive behaviors, leading many players and parents to suspect the man is sick since, in addition to numerous deceptions, serious distress was intentionally caused to his scapegoats to freeze them out.

This is what the next organization hiring Jim Roque will get if they fail to do their homework, but as far as the Lakers are concerned, it is a huge stone being pulled out of the shoe, which is great news.

All other things being equal (recruitment, finance etc ...), just bringing this nuisance to an end will surely give anyone around the team a chance to contribute for the best, and at least the Athletic Director has a chance to adjust and learn from experience. Fans should be confident that the coach and the AD will now work together. They can be pretty positive about the Lakers improving significantly before long, and should do their part by attending games and donating.

There is no doubt that there will be other repercussions than just ending the contract, but this will have no effect on the team’s performance, and is therefore outside the scope of this post. As a matter of fact, it didn’t raise much interest when it was pertinent, mostly giving rise to scornful comments by moronic posters.

Jim Roque followers should now stop using this post for their propaganda aimed only at sabotaging the people now in charge and making Jim Roque appear as a victim.

I also encourage the Anti-Roquettes, (including the “Truths” and several others) who believe that Jim Roque should be held accountable, to refrain from upsetting peaceful posters by bringing it up here and instead join energy within a group already dealing with the matter in a discreet but factual and more efficient way.

Hopefully this will help this thread move on, concentrating on it’s core objectives which are exchanging ideas, reflecting on how the Lakers perform, and recommending ways on how to improve.
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I'm glad there was a change and it is time to move ahead, but were you in the room when the coach went "ape****?" Personally, I don't know a coach who hasn't lit up his team from time to time. Who would you or I be to judge whether it was with or without reason. A player may have felt that way, but players are like prisoners, none are guilty and are treated unfairly whenever the coach chews their butt. As for the exchange with the linesman, is it a stretch to think the official could have made threats? The same clown that would punch a woman in a bar? And that is a well known fact. Roque didn't have the success we crave and a change was overdue, but the personal and family attacks are far overboard. Then again, so are the attacks on one of the candidates by what is likely the same individual under several screen names. From either side, it's far too easy to make personal attacks on the former coach, his kids, his one time assistant or the AD and her family when no one has the stones to put their name on it. Completely gutless. We should all stay above that level.
 
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off-season thread (part 2)

Here my take on the news conference:
Coach Whitten will do a good job for LSSU because he is now the luckiest coach at LSSU, because Chris Dunbar said Coach Whitten knows his bolts & Nuts about hockey. Coach Whitten will have about 2-3 years before the team is really his team. Now at this point Coach Whitten will know in order to advance forward with the program he will need some more help from the college and Chris Dunbar will have to find away to get those items that HER coach needs. (Whitten knows his bolts & Nuts) So the AD can't have a Coach on the 500 or below side coaching this team for long, at that point it will be the AD fault the program is failing, not Coach Whitten.

I'm glad Joey Shawhan didn't get the job and is far away from LSSU because Joey would have gotten all of the blame if the program failed, now Joey get nun of the blame & Chris Dunbar will blame the selection committee for not forwarding Joey app.
 
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For those that want to hear the Press Conference from Saturday I will be airing it on Eagle 95.1 in the Soo, and online at www.radioeaglesoo.com Here is the schedule of the segments:
8:10am Witten's Portion
9:10am Witten's Q&A
9:30am Kris Dunbar Follow up Interview.

Due to how packed the schedule already was that is the way I have to run this stuff. I will be podcasting all of it also. Sometime this morning.
 
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off-season thread (part 2)

Can someone tell me again why Whitten is a great recruiter. With his great recruiting abilities he has never been a coach on a team that has played even 500 hockey. Seems this coach was part of the Rick Comely I have the guy for you segment.
 
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off-season thread (part 2)

DM2SM said:
Damon Whitten is the coach at LSSU. Do I care that he has success or do I care that LSSU Hockey has success? If he has success he will probably not be here long. If he struggles he will be with us for some time.

I was a member of the Blue Line Club, a season Ticket Holder and gave monetarily to the Laker Hockey program for over thirty years. I did not support Jim Roque. I hoped to reestablish my support for the program when Roque was let go but cannot do so at this time. What I say may be misconstrued as a slam at Whitten but it is more a severe criticism of the selection committee.

The A.D. stated that there were over 50 qualified applicants for the Head Coaches position. Of those, 5 were selected for interviews. Of those five, two were individuals that either worked for or played for the expert that reviewed the applications. I will state the credentials of the five in the order I would have chosen and you can add or delete information to help me out.

Candidate one has been a head coach of a Division III program for eight years. His won/loss percentage is over .700 and his teams have been ranked in the top five for six years. He has never had a losing record. He also had ten years experience as a division I assistant coach finishing over .500 five times.

Candidate two has been the second assistant coach for five years with two separate Division I teams. He has no head coaching experience. His teams have had only one losing season and both teams he has been with returned to the NCAA tournament after long droughts. He also served one season as a Division I volunteer assistant.

Candidate three has been the first assistant for a division I team for six years and overall a division I assistant for 13 years. His teams have finished above .500 three times and won three playoffs series with one trip to the CCHA finals. He has been involved in the recruiting of several players that eventually spent time in the NHL.

The fourth candidate spent three years as the second assistant of a Division I team which recorded a 10th, and two 11th place finishes in the CCHA. He went on to coach professionally in France for a team owned by his father in law. After this past season his team ceased operations at the professional level. He never coached a team that recorded a winning season. He also served one year as an NCAA Division I volunteer assistant.

The fifth candidate served seven years as the second assistant on three different division I teams. The first team he served one year finishing last in the CHA and his team ceased operations at year’s end. The second he served two years finishing in last in the WCHA both years. With the third team he served four years finishing last, 9th, 10th, and 5th never recording a winning season and never winning a playoff round. No former players have NHL experience. He also served 2 years as a Division I director of Hockey Operations and one year as a Division I volunteer coach.

Who would you think were the two that either played or worked for Rick Comley? Which of the five do you think was selected as our 10th Head Coach? In order, Candidate 1 was Ron Fogarty of Adrian. Candidate 2 was Ben Barr of Providence College. Candidate 3 was Tim Christian. Candidate 4 was Rich Metro and Candidate 5 was Daman Whitten. Metro played for Comley, Whitten worked as a hockey operations director for Comley for two years. In addition, It has been posted on the MTU sight that Whitten had put in for numerous USHL jobs and even Division III jobs over the past couple of years. Last year he put in for two NCAA jobs and UAA, which is a place he worked for two years, interviewed him and re-opened the search seeking more qualified candidates.

Looking at what I just laid out, I don’t think anyone should be criticized for questioning this hire. I wonder how many of the 50 applicants were USHL or NAHL head coaches? I wonder why the likes of Anthony Palumbo, Darren Madely or even Doug LaPrade weren’t interviewed and yes I wonder why Joey Shawhan wasn’t? All have head coaching credentials and other coaching background that far exceed Damon Whitten. Those are just a few names. Rick Comley had 50 candidates to choose from. I agree with other posters that of those selected only two should have been considered as worthy candidates and I would be surprised if there were not more qualified people on the list that were left out.

I would have liked to hear from someone during the press conference a description of what success Coach Whitten had to qualify him as our coach. Mrs. Dunbar described him as having “surrounded himself in his career with some of college hockey’s best” I wish he had been working with them when they were at their best. I thought it inappropriate that Whitten cited Rick Comley as the most influential person in his life. He never played for Comley nor did he coach with Comley. He worked two years as a Hockey Operations director for Comley. If the relationship was that close Comley should have removed himself from the selection committee at the least and should not have been the one reviewing the applications and recommending the candidates to be interviewed.
I also didn't care for the way he tried to connect himself to the history of Laker hockey through Rick Comley and Ron Mason. Those men were not apart of the era with Vermette, Dowd, Weight and the others he mentioned other than to be on the losing end of alot of hockey games.

The above comments are what are being talked about by the patrons in our community who purchase tickets to Laker hockey games. Not the Bill’s of the world who worship from afar.

So I ask some of you who don’t appreciate the questions being asked with regards to this selection to take the time like I have and tell us why we should purchase season tickets? Why we should join the Blue Liners? Why we should donate dollars to improve the program. Whitten’s comments at the press conference regarding his close ties with Rick Comley hurt him in the community. It was an immature moment possible by an unprepared individual.
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I don't agree with your criticism of DW saying that he surrounded himself with some of college hockey's best, you say you wish he was around them "when they were at their best"; I find flaw in your logic, does a person have to be currently successful to be able to teach someone something valuable? I don't believe they do, plenty of coaches in every sport have reached championship level success only to have unsuccessful runs afterwards in their career. This does not mean that those around them cannot learn from the expertise and knowledge that those coaches gained during their most successful times. Also, your point (while I believe it to be flawed) only applies to his time with Comley, Whitten played for Mason as part of the winningest class in MSU's history, so I'd say Mason was on top of his game when Whitten was around him.

Also, I don't know what planet you are on trying to dismiss Mason and Comley's role in LSSU history. You cannot talk about Laker hockey history without mentioning Mason and Comley, Mason helped start the program, was the first coach in the programs history and won a national championship at the NAIA level in 1972. Comley was not only a captain, team MVP, All-American, and named Laker Outstanding Senior Athlete while playing for LSSU, he also took over the coaching reins from Mason and also won an NAIA national championship. On top of all of this, both men are enshrined in the LSSU Hall of Fame, and are responsible for 2 of the 5 national championship banners hanging in Taffy. They were not around during the most notable period in Laker hockey history, but they **** sure had a hand in getting the program not only started, but started on that path to success...someone with your stated Laker allegiance shouldn't have to be reminded of that.
 
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off-season thread (part 2)

AnchorsAway said:
I don't agree with your criticism of DW saying that he surrounded himself with some of college hockey's best, you say you wish he was around them "when they were at their best"; I find flaw in your logic, does a person have to be currently successful to be able to teach someone something valuable? I don't believe they do, plenty of coaches in every sport have reached championship level success only to have unsuccessful runs afterwards in their career. This does not mean that those around them cannot learn from the expertise and knowledge that those coaches gained during their most successful times. Also, your point (while I believe it to be flawed) only applies to his time with Comley, Whitten played for Mason as part of the winningest class in MSU's history, so I'd say Mason was on top of his game when Whitten was around him.

Also, I don't know what planet you are on trying to dismiss Mason and Comley's role in LSSU history. You cannot talk about Laker hockey history without mentioning Mason and Comley, Mason helped start the program, was the first coach in the programs history and won a national championship at the NAIA level in 1972. Comley was not only a captain, team MVP, All-American, and named Laker Outstanding Senior Athlete while playing for LSSU, he also took over the coaching reins from Mason and also won an NAIA national championship. On top of all of this, both men are enshrined in the LSSU Hall of Fame, and are responsible for 2 of the 5 national championship banners hanging in Taffy. They were not around during the most notable period in Laker hockey history, but they **** sure had a hand in getting the program not only started, but started on that path to success...someone with your stated Laker allegiance shouldn't have to b

Seems Whitten was saying lake Superior has a MSU connection for their success and Whitten should have realized MSU has a Lake State connection for their success.
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off-season thread (part 2)

Bill said:
Nice article about Whitten from his home town area:

http://www.livingstondaily.com/arti...en-eager-resurrect-Lake-Superior-State-hockey
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Good article. A snippet:

Undoubtedly, some fans will grumble about Lake Superior State hiring someone with no coaching experience. Pearson (MTU coach), among others, doesn’t think that’s an issue.

“Jeff Jackson (who won two NCAA titles at Lake State) didn’t have a lot of experience,” he said. “Someone had to give Ron (Mason) a first job. I think he’s got what it takes. I think he’s one of these rising superstars we’ll hear a lot of as we go on.”
 
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Laker Superior gave Mason and Comely the chance to become head coaches and develope their skills as head coaches. If anything MSU is tied to Lake State and not Lake State to MSU. I am betting every single person on here knew the moment we learned Comely was on the coach committee ,Whitten was the new head coach and all other interviews were for show.
 
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sm2pk said:
Laker Superior gave Mason and Comely the chance to become head coaches and develope their skills as head coaches. If anything MSU is tied to Lake State and not Lake State to MSU. I am betting every single person on here knew the moment we learned Comely was on the coach committee, Whitten was the new head coach and all other interviews were for show.
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I didn't think that way, and I honestly don't know why some people have such a dislike for Comley. Yes he was on the committee, but personally I don't think he called all the shots up to and including who was going to be selected. I guess I'm not a conspiracy theory type of guy who automatically assumes something underhanded must have occurred if things don't go as I expected.
 
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DM2SM said:
Let me ask this question. Does anyone on here want to discuss this topic or let it drop?
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I suggest we let it drop. Perhaps the only way we're ever going to know why Joe Shawhan didn't get an interview is if he himself decides to shed some light on it. The committee members could do so also, but due to the nature of the process they probably aren't allowed to publicly comment on it.
 
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Bill said:
I didn't think that way, and I honestly don't know why some people have such a dislike for Comley. Yes he was on the committee, but personally I don't think he called all the shots up to and including who was going to be selected. I guess I'm not a conspiracy theory type of guy who automatically assumes something underhanded must have occurred if things don't go as I expected.
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Conspiracy ? I think everyone on here knew it was going to be Whitten as soon as we learned Comely was on the committee . No back room deals, no smoke filled conference rooms, no meeting in allies to discuss who should be coach. Just plain writing on the wall to tell you the search was over from the start .
 
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sm2pk said:
Can someone tell me again why Whitten is a great recruiter. With his great recruiting abilities he has never been a coach on a team that has played even 500 hockey. Seems this coach was part of the Rick Comely I have the guy for you segment.
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Take a look at some of the players he has recently brought in to MTU. The frosh and sophomores are budding talents, and I think MTU will have some pretty good success within the conference over the next 2-3 seasons. 3 of their top 5 scorers were frosh and sophomores. With the other two being juniors (which I'm not sure how much effect he'd have on the guys signing on prior to his first season, maybe more than I think). But MTU had a young team that we will end up crediting for being built by DW when they see some success as early as next season.

This whole "excellent recruiter" argument was started with the JR firing and the complaining that LSSU could get rid of such an "god-sent recruiter". I'm not concerned about recruiting as much, that will work itself out. I think Whitten has proved he can recruit.

The x's and o's are what matters now and how we should judge DW. I wish him the best and hope he can lead the guys on the ice, because at the end of the day it doesn't matter how highly recruited the guy is as long as he helps you score more goals than the other team.
 
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sm2pk said:
Conspiracy ? I think everyone on here knew it was going to be Whitten as soon as we learned Comely was on the committee . No back room deals, no smoke filled conference rooms, no meeting in allies to discuss who should be coach. Just plain writing on the wall to tell you the search was over from the start .
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If you want to think that way, fine that is your choice.
 
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Hockeyace said:
Here my take on the news conference:
Coach Whitten will do a good job for LSSU because he is now the luckiest coach at LSSU, because Chris Dunbar said Coach Whitten knows his bolts & Nuts about hockey. Coach Whitten will have about 2-3 years before the team is really his team. Now at this point Coach Whitten will know in order to advance forward with the program he will need some more help from the college and Chris Dunbar will have to find away to get those items that HER coach needs. (Whitten knows his bolts & Nuts) So the AD can't have a Coach on the 500 or below side coaching this team for long, at that point it will be the AD fault the program is failing, not Coach Whitten.

I'm glad Joey Shawhan didn't get the job and is far away from LSSU because Joey would have gotten all of the blame if the program failed, now Joey get nun of the blame & Chris Dunbar will blame the selection committee for not forwarding Joey app.
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Welcome back Pony
 
Lakers-88-92-94 said:
Take a look at some of the players he has recently brought in to MTU. The frosh and sophomores are budding talents, and I think MTU will have some pretty good success within the conference over the next 2-3 seasons. 3 of their top 5 scorers were frosh and sophomores. With the other two being juniors (which I'm not sure how much effect he'd have on the guys signing on prior to his first season, maybe more than I think). But MTU had a young team that we will end up crediting for being built by DW when they see some success as early as next season.

This whole "excellent recruiter" argument was started with the JR firing and the complaining that LSSU could get rid of such an "god-sent recruiter". I'm not concerned about recruiting as much, that will work itself out. I think Whitten has proved he can recruit.

The x's and o's are what matters now and how we should judge DW. I wish him the best and hope he can lead the guys on the ice, because at the end of the day it doesn't matter how highly recruited the guy is as long as he helps you score more goals than the other team.
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Were those "his" recruits? If so, then why wasn't the senior class this year stronger? Or did Mel Pearson's presence improve over Jamie Russell? Which of those top scoring youngsters were Damon's and which were the ones that Muckalt and Pearson got to sign? If he's such a great recruiter, why was he the #2 guy? We shopped in the bargain basement. We got no one's #1 choice, maybe not even our own.
 
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