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MI State brings in a guy who hasn't coached at the college level since 1992 and he was an assistant for one year. I wonder what debt was owed there .
 
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Yah, despite all his MSU connections/history, it's surprising they didn't go after someone with more coaching experience.

Yeah they should have went with a guy that has won just over 30% of his games in over six season at a small school up there in Northern Michigan. Too bad that guy got away and they had to settle for Anastos.

There is something to be said for coaching experience and a winning coach with experience. Once you take off your reality blinders some of you people up there might actually figure that out someday. Until then enjoy another first year coach outcoaching your hero at your little college.

None of you people can argue the facts or the truth so continue to name call and sway the conversation away from the current head of this administration. You people are so predictable.

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA
 
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Tom Anastos is stepping down as commissioner of the CCHA to take over as head coach of MSU. Color me surprised. And pleased. Hopefully the CCHA finds a better commissioner this time.

I see your points and agree with them. However, something smells here: Big Ten Conference announced one day and Anastos leaving the conference the same week? I'm curious about what mess has he left behind for someone to clean up? That is why I agree the conference needs to find a better commissioner this time around.
 
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I see your points and agree with them. However, something smells here: Big Ten Conference announced one day and Anastos leaving the conference the same week? I'm curious about what mess has he left behind for someone to clean up? That is why I agree the conference needs to find a better commissioner this time around.

MI State may have started a new policy that may spread across all sports. Next time State needs a football coach,some guy who was an assistant coach for a year at some high school varsity program back in 1992 now has a shot.
 
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I agree the conference needs to find a better commissioner this time around.

May I be the first to throw out the name of 6-year head coach of the Lake Superior State University Lakers, Jim Roque, to be the next commissioner of the CCHA. With the cheerleaders on here, his supporters in your little town, and the head of his p.r campaign Crawford, he should be a shoo-in.

Plus he could reprimand himself when going after rogue referees. Linesman in the league would really have to fear not only the commish, but the law.

I think my plan is brilliant and I know that the Roque brigade will come to his aide in his search to be commissioner. Good luck the CCHA would be like your little schools hockey program, solid as a rock!

Would clear the way for a legend to make a return, although he would turn down you people.

The Truth Is Out There....
 
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Sorry I think the next commissioner should be straight forward and honest. As for TS I have read two posts that lead me to believe that is not true about them though. I am still waiting for him to leave :). Hey here is a good excuse leave and go be commish. Also it is boring to read his posts about how this thread acts when it is just the opposite. Also all he knows is one subject of his hatred almost like a jilted lover or something........ Now TS I challenge you to add something to the thread other than your spew. Here is one. I like hearing about who is going to the pros... BMW is gone and rehabing for his shot. Long health to him, K2 and RAV. Who is the 3rd goalie practicing with them. When does Tyler Marble come from the North Stars, who else are they looking for, will they carry 2,3 or like some NCAA teams four goalies. Where is next years schedule, are they having try-outs- I for one would like to watch if they do again sometime. Are they having any special mini camps like last year. Who has long term injuries. Who is going to be the first two lines, is there a grind line. Which defenseman will have the most goals. Does K2 and others leave in their JR year. Who would be best on the power play or PK. When do the renovations begin. Also there are ten other questions I am wondering about. I like to hear what folks think but if it is spew plz be polite and don't say anything or go to the bathroom.
 
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I like hearing about who is going to the pros... BMW is gone and rehabing for his shot. Long health to him, K2 and RAV. Who is the 3rd goalie practicing with them. When does Tyler Marble come from the North Stars, who else are they looking for, will they carry 2,3 or like some NCAA teams four goalies. Where is next years schedule, are they having try-outs- I for one would like to watch if they do again sometime. Are they having any special mini camps like last year. Who has long term injuries. Who is going to be the first two lines, is there a grind line. Which defenseman will have the most goals. Does K2 and others leave in their JR year. Who would be best on the power play or PK. When do the renovations begin. Also there are ten other questions I am wondering about. I like to hear what folks think but if it is spew plz be polite and don't say anything or go to the bathroom.
The 3rd goalie practicing with them the latter part of this past season was a kid from the club team they added when BMW went down with injury. Tyler Marble is a bit of a puzzle. He verbally committed to the Lakers a couple of years ago; I doubt he has been promised any scholarship money, but don't know for sure. I don't think he has yet proven himself ready for college hockey and I suspect the Laker coaches feel the same way. He started out this season for Traverse City with some pretty good stats, but against weaker competition in the NAHL. His stats, and presumably level of play, has fallen off as the season progressed. His save % is down under .900. Lately, Traverse City has been playing their other goalie more than Marble, leading me to think Marble may no longer even the #1 goalie at TC. Marble is still eligible to play another year of Junior hockey, and at this point I don't expect to see him with the Lakers next season. If he does show up with the Lakers next season, it will be because he wants to start school and has told the coaches he is willing to come in as the #3 goalie and as a walk-on with little or no scholarship money. But I know the Laker coaches have been out looking at other Junior goalies who they could bring in as a #3 goalie, probably with walk-on status, so as I said earlier Marble's future with the Lakers is still questionable.

I'm not sure what Ravn's situation is. He really didn't have an adequate chance to play and show what he can do this season. Is he content to come back and fight Kapalka for the #1 goalie slot given that both have 3 more years of eligibility? Or might he be thinking about transferring to some other school where he feels he'll be given a better chance of playing? I don't know. I don't think he was getting any scholarship money at LSSU this past season. Presumably he will be given some such assistance if he does come back.

As for long term injuries, I think that both Kapalka and Campbell will be having off-season surgery to try and correct shoulder problems.
 
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There are a number of posters who have called for a coaching change. I think that is the natural reaction of a fan disappointed with the team's performance. I am interested however in what specifically it is felt would be gained by changing coaches. We frequently complain about performance and post that "the Laker's need to score more," or "they need to play better defense." I'm pretty sure the current staff has figured out they would win more games if they outscored the opposition. These are pretty generic statements, applicable to all teams. What specifically would a new coach do that it is felt the current staff has been unable to do. I am counting on the hockey fans of this forum, who admit to years of hockey interest, to come through with suggestions. I have complained that the effort of the players is uneven, and more strict granting of playing time is needed. Player development is a problem, and I would like to see a summer, on campus, training program established, along with a training table for team meals each evening. I don't think leaving nutrition to the players is wise. I have other ideas and would like to discuss them if others are interested. I think discussing coaching changes is always on the table, however there are a lot of other ideas I think we could consider. I know funding is always an issue, but let's consider the options.
 
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There are a number of posters who have called for a coaching change. I think that is the natural reaction of a fan disappointed with the team's performance. I am interested however in what specifically it is felt would be gained by changing coaches. We frequently complain about performance and post that "the Laker's need to score more," or "they need to play better defense." I'm pretty sure the current staff has figured out they would win more games if they outscored the opposition. These are pretty generic statements, applicable to all teams. What specifically would a new coach do that it is felt the current staff has been unable to do. I am counting on the hockey fans of this forum, who admit to years of hockey interest, to come through with suggestions. I have complained that the effort of the players is uneven, and more strict granting of playing time is needed. Player development is a problem, and I would like to see a summer, on campus, training program established, along with a training table for team meals each evening. I don't think leaving nutrition to the players is wise. I have other ideas and would like to discuss them if others are interested. I think discussing coaching changes is always on the table, however there are a lot of other ideas I think we could consider. I know funding is always an issue, but let's consider the options.

I think you answer some of your own questions. A new coach would hopefully improve player development resulting in better play and more wins. A new coach would hopefully hold players accountable for bad play and sit them accordingly. A new coach may bring in a new style of recruiting and play that could result in more better play and more wins. If a coach has been in a job as long as Roque has and not improved player development, conditioning, etc then its unlikely he will do so anytime soon. Roque has had the opportunity to change the way he coaches and he really hasnt done much.

Its just time for a change. I cant see anything Roque would to differently changing the way each season has gone (a flash of great play here, a streak of crap there and inconsistent play the rest of the year resulting in some wins but mostly losses). Maybe they get a few extra wins here and there. But we should demand more. I would rather see a coach who puts together a team that is normally finishing 4-6 or so and get an occasional 2nd or 3rd, hosting playoffs series regularly, and making regular trips to the joe...even if they miss out on the NCAAs. But what we have now is a team that finishes in the bottom half and maybe gets an occasional top half and gets to host first round every couple of years and is very lucky to make the joe. We have to demand better and the coach we have now is just not delivering that.
 
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I want a change in coaching and the biggest reason for that is I'm tired of wondering if the A team is going to show up or the B team. People at the rink even wonder that not just the posters on here. Kudos to you DB for bringing up some interesting reading.

I would love to see some summer training on campus and i'm sure it would help a great deal but the small schools are going to have a even harder time. The governors proposed budget will deal quite a blow not only lowering state aid but if the schools raise tuition to make up any short comings they will really get cut deep. One other thing that may hurt a little is he wants to do away with the tax break you get for donating to the states university's. I don't think it will stop everyone from making contributions to Lake State i plan on keeping with what i have done in the past but it may hurt some if it does go through.
 
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I want a change in coaching and the biggest reason for that is I'm tired of wondering if the A team is going to show up or the B team. People at the rink even wonder that not just the posters on here. Kudos to you DB for bringing up some interesting reading.

I would love to see some summer training on campus and i'm sure it would help a great deal but the small schools are going to have a even harder time. The governors proposed budget will deal quite a blow not only lowering state aid but if the schools raise tuition to make up any short comings they will really get cut deep. One other thing that may hurt a little is he wants to do away with the tax break you get for donating to the states university's. I don't think it will stop everyone from making contributions to Lake State i plan on keeping with what i have done in the past but it may hurt some if it does go through.

The uneven play is indeed frustrating. I believe the Lakers had above average CCHA talent this year. I am always interested to observe and read about the philsoophy of successful coaches. They seem to train their players and assistants to view every action in light of the goal of winning games. I've read that many will recruit lesser players from a traditionally winning program because they already understand the culture of winning. How does a head coach get his players and assistants to accept this vision? I agree that given recent talent levels, the Lakers could be expected to have finished just below the top few teams in the league, with an occasional first round playoff bye.

Motivation is simple, eliminate the unmotivated - Lou Holtz

Regarding the upcoming Norris Center remodel, I hope they take the time to consider improvements to the arena. I would suggest removal of seating at one or both of the ends of the rink. Use some of the seats to replace the old seats on the east side and move the students into this area. Place additional security behind the visitors bench. I would aim for a capacity of around 2500. I know a size reduction is controversial. I would like to believe the Lakers will draw 3500+ in the future, but I think it unlikely. Does anyone else remember the old Norris Center configuration, bleachers and all, noisy and intimidating to visiting teams. Use the extra space created to impove and enlarge the locker room and training facilities, improve the pro shop, enlarge the concessions area and adjoining concourse, and create a large and attractive blue liners room to draw crowds between periods. Even enthusiastic crowds seem lost in that half filled arena. Some will see this idea as tacit acceptance of the recent mediocrity of the Laker team. I think that could be a fair interpretation.
 
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The uneven play is indeed frustrating. I believe the Lakers had above average CCHA talent this year. I am always interested to observe and read about the philsoophy of successful coaches. They seem to train their players and assistants to view every action in light of the goal of winning games. I've read that many will recruit lesser players from a traditionally winning program because they already understand the culture of winning. How does a head coach get his players and assistants to accept this vision? I agree that given recent talent levels, the Lakers could be expected to have finished just below the top few teams in the league, with an occasional first round playoff bye.

Motivation is simple, eliminate the unmotivated - Lou Holtz

Regarding the upcoming Norris Center remodel, I hope they take the time to consider improvements to the arena. I would suggest removal of seating at one or both of the ends of the rink. Use some of the seats to replace the old seats on the east side and move the students into this area. Place additional security behind the visitors bench. I would aim for a capacity of around 2500. I know a size reduction is controversial. I would like to believe the Lakers will draw 3500+ in the future, but I think it unlikely. Does anyone else remember the old Norris Center configuration, bleachers and all, noisy and intimidating to visiting teams. Use the extra space created to impove and enlarge the locker room and training facilities, improve the pro shop, enlarge the concessions area and adjoining concourse, and create a large and attractive blue liners room to draw crowds between periods. Even enthusiastic crowds seem lost in that half filled arena. Some will see this idea as tacit acceptance of the recent mediocrity of the Laker team. I think that could be a fair interpretation.

I respectfully disagree, 2500 is too low to shoot for, the Lakers haven't been good the last few years and yet still when Michigan State has come up to play recently they still manage to pack in 3200-3500...The Lakers average attendance for this past season was 2,109 so in your proposition you're only allowing for a 400 person increase for sellouts which is too low of a ceiling in my opinion....with the configuration of the CCHA now with only 8 teams paired with a promising young Lakers roster it is much more feasable than it was before (even though unfortunately Roque will probably still be behind the bench) that the Lakers could finish in the top half of the standings and have winning records with more regularity, if this came to fruition I think there would certainly be quite a few nights where Taffy reaches over 3,000 in attendance and that the average attendance could definitely reach above 2500....I also like the way the rink is set up now, most of the seating is right on top of the ice surface and even with well below sellout crowds there has been quite a few games that come to mind over the past few years where the rink gets very loud....

The bottom line is that the Soo is a hockey town and even though the Lakers will not be competing for a national championship any time soon I think the townspeople are smart enough to acknowledge that and would still come out in droves if the Lakers were producing winning overall records, were finishing in the top half of the CCHA often, made a trip to the Joe (or wherever the league championships will be played at, I think Grand Rapids is probably the future destination now the the UM/MSU are gone) and every 4-5 years or so got an NCAA bid or were at least very much in the conversation
 
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QUOTE=DB Cooper;5099529]The uneven play is indeed frustrating. I believe the Lakers had above average CCHA talent this year. I am always interested to observe and read about the philsoophy of successful coaches. They seem to train their players and assistants to view every action in light of the goal of winning games. I've read that many will recruit lesser players from a traditionally winning program because they already understand the culture of winning. How does a head coach get his players and assistants to accept this vision? I agree that given recent talent levels, the Lakers could be expected to have finished just below the top few teams in the league, with an occasional first round playoff bye.




I believe the culture has to change at Lake State and it starts with the coaches. When your goal at the beginning of the year is to get to the "Joe" what is that telling the players. The same players that walked in on a visit and saw all the championship banners hanging from rafters are the same ones you are now telling disregard those banners and just look at the getting to the "Joe" banners? Thats our goal for the season. Are you friggin kidding me? I suppose in juniors these same kids were just hoping to get to the playoffs of their respective leagues. NOT!

I know Jeff Blashill at WMU sure in the hell did'nt tell his guys the goal for the year is to get to the "Joe". As a matter of fact he said if your not trying to win a National Championship then why are you playing hockey at all!

Ditto to Dean Blais at UNO who asked his team when he took over what the goals for the players were, they answered a National Championship, and so started the journey of working harder than they ever had, on and off the ice. Both teams have gotten much better as a result and have made this years tournament which will result in better players, more fans, more revenue and a generally positive vibe in their respective programs going forward. The Lakers did a better job this year of not fading in the 3rd period, which was nice to see, but they still finished in 8th place so they need to work even harder for next year. If this happens maybe some of those ties will turn to wins and thus the Lakers end up higher in the standings, which we all want, so we don't have to listen to the truth's all the time:eek:

There is no reason to believe these Lakers can't compete with the Ferris's and Western's of the league but the culture needs to change to help that happen...
And it starts with not settling for mediocrity!!!!!!!!
 
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I would like to see a change made for several reasons, some of which I mentioned earlier.

1) A new coach and his staff need to prepare the team both physically and mentally for each and every game. We have all talked about the ‘A’ team or ‘B’ team. Win or lose we all want to see the ‘A’ show up 100% of the time. The Lakers are not far from showing some great things now; if the new coach can get the ‘A’ team to show up for every period in each game. Heck if they showed up 90% of the time it would be a tremendous improve and would improve their record greatly. I like the quote from Lou Holtz. All season long I felt if the ‘A’ team showed up they could play with anyone. This was evident with the end of the season series with the Miami. While they lost the series, after the first 5 minutes of the second game the ‘A’ team seem to showed up to play and they hung in there against a team which may very well be in the Final Four. The ‘A’ team showed up against Ohio State and again in the Notre Dame series. Then I remember watching the ‘B’, in Bowling Green, where they couldn’t beat a ‘C’ team in Bowling Green; definitely the low point of the season. I remember watching people leave games early; over hearing them say ‘same old crap I’m leaving’. Bottom line constancy, you never new which team was going to come to play.

2) A new coach must have a proven record of selecting a proven coaching staff, recruiting quality hockey players, and most important able to develop those players. I think there are some freshmen who good be very good players. My concern is they will not improve their play over the next 3 years. Coach is also a teacher/communicator; some people are not cut out to be a good teacher.

3) Another reason I believe there should be a change is the lack of respect for Laker hockey. A new coach needs to bring back the respect to the LSSU Hockey on and off the ice. This should not be a surprise to anyone if you read my comments earlier about the present coach. However, for the past several years articles and stories I have read it appears the Lakers are an after thought. On the other hand when over the past 6 years you have seasons with 17, 18, 20, 20, 19 and 14 what should one expect? At this rate of improvement in another 6 years we might be down to 10 or 11 loses, baring a set back. Personally, that is a little to long to wait.
 
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QUOTE=DB Cooper;5099529]The uneven play is indeed frustrating. I believe the Lakers had above average CCHA talent this year. I am always interested to observe and read about the philsoophy of successful coaches. They seem to train their players and assistants to view every action in light of the goal of winning games. I've read that many will recruit lesser players from a traditionally winning program because they already understand the culture of winning. How does a head coach get his players and assistants to accept this vision? I agree that given recent talent levels, the Lakers could be expected to have finished just below the top few teams in the league, with an occasional first round playoff bye.




I believe the culture has to change at Lake State and it starts with the coaches. When your goal at the beginning of the year is to get to the "Joe" what is that telling the players. The same players that walked in on a visit and saw all the championship banners hanging from rafters are the same ones you are now telling disregard those banners and just look at the getting to the "Joe" banners? Thats our goal for the season. Are you friggin kidding me? I suppose in juniors these same kids were just hoping to get to the playoffs of their respective leagues. NOT!

I know Jeff Blashill at WMU sure in the hell did'nt tell his guys the goal for the year is to get to the "Joe". As a matter of fact he said if your not trying to win a National Championship then why are you playing hockey at all!

Ditto to Dean Blais at UNO who asked his team when he took over what the goals for the players were, they answered a National Championship, and so started the journey of working harder than they ever had, on and off the ice. Both teams have gotten much better as a result and have made this years tournament which will result in better players, more fans, more revenue and a generally positive vibe in their respective programs going forward. The Lakers did a better job this year of not fading in the 3rd period, which was nice to see, but they still finished in 8th place so they need to work even harder for next year. If this happens maybe some of those ties will turn to wins and thus the Lakers end up higher in the standings, which we all want, so we don't have to listen to the truth's all the time:eek:

There is no reason to believe these Lakers can't compete with the Ferris's and Western's of the league but the culture needs to change to help that happen...
And it starts with not settling for mediocrity!!!!!!!!

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA
 
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Anyone watch the Michigan/UNO game yesterday? What a crock of..... I betch you any money that if that happened to the Lakers or another small school team like NMU, it would of been NO GOAL.
 
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