LSSU Laker Hockey 2012-2013, Part 2

[PerkyforPrez]

and sometimes fans have to show their disgust with a program and boycott or at least voice their opposition with what is going on. If you are paying to get into an event,you have a right to demand a decent product . You also have a right as a fan to stop going if the product they are giving you becomes subpar.

I have threatened before to drop our season tickets but who am I fooling. I am a Laker fan season ticket holder I am not rich even though I live up here I'll keep going. There has been talent on the roster. We just need someone to get consistent play out of the team.

 

[Laker Dude]

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I have threatened before to drop our season tickets but who am I fooling. I am a Laker fan season ticket holder I am not rich even though I live up here I'll keep going. There has been talent on the roster. We just need someone to get consistent play out of the team.

A lot of the problem comes down to lack of depth on the LSSU roster. The same 16 guys played each game with Ainsworth, Wall, McKay, and Vernace rotating for the 17th and 18th spots. I think the lack of intensity in some games is because there is not much of a threat for playing time.

 

[Laker Dude]

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The Lakers were picked to finish dead last by the experts (Coaches) and 10th by the non-experts (Media) in the preseason polls. Why? Lack of potential goal scoring. What happened? They finished 8th. Why didn't they finish higher? LACK OF GOAL SCORING.

Last season during the second half, Roque said numerous times that this years team would be a contender to make the NCAA tournament. They had already knew at that point Trotman was leaving.

 

[Bill]

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Murdock hurt his shoulder late in the second period on Saturday and was effectively done for the season. May require surgery.

 

[jnacc]

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Lion's fan here as well.

With a metro population of 4 million plus and playing America's most popular sport, the Lions can suck year after year and still sell out their stadium. Lake State is not so lucky but perhaps the Athletic Department really believes it can make a go of it with only 1500 paying customers per game. If those 1500 are just happy watching a team go through the motions, win lose or draw then so be it, a change is not needed.

I'm just happy that the Eagles moved to the NAHL as it is good hockey and that the Hounds and their fans do not expect mediocrity or worse....its nice having an alternative.

 

[Laker54]

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I see there is an opening in Boston; I'm sure they could buy out someone's contract.

Upon Roque's departure; the first person I would talk with would be Adrian College's, Ron Fogarty. He has done an outstanding job of building a program from the ground up.

 

[blackswampboy]

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Upon Roque's departure; the first person I would talk with would be Adrian College's, Ron Fogarty. He has done an outstanding job of building a program from the ground up.

good call, amazing record there.
plus he's paid his dues assistant coaching at BG (go Falcons!) and in the ECAC (Clarkson). that's the Jerry York road to success.

 

[sm2pk]

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I see there is an opening in Boston; I'm sure they could buy out someone's contract.

Upon Roque's departure; the first person I would talk with would be Adrian College's, Ron Fogarty. He has done an outstanding job of building a program from the ground up.

Laker54,Fogarty is the first person I would bring in to talk to as well. That guy had a high flying offense his first year and still running on high octane . Barzuk ( however you spell his name ) left Lake State and ended up playing for Fogarty and it seemed to work well for him . Something needs to change before next season or we will be looking at one sorry team that will be playing in a weaker league still fighting to stay out of the cellar.

 

[sm2pk]

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Look at Mass-Lowell out east. they brought in a division 3 coach last year and he had them in the NCAAs his first year and they are ranked 6th in the nation in his second year. The year before he took over,they were 5-25-4 I believe.

 

[Freddie]

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and sometimes fans have to show their disgust with a program and boycott or at least voice their opposition with what is going on. If you are paying to get into an event,you have a right to demand a decent product . You also have a right as a fan to stop going if the product they are giving you becomes subpar.

Don't do it. When your program is struggling is PRECISLY when the season ticket holders, boosters, alumni and community need to step up. College athletics (especially at smaller schools) are NOT businesses in the same fashion of pro franchises. There's no revenue sharing to split billions in TV money. Did you see how close we here in BG came to losing our program 4 years ago? Don't delude yourself into thinking something similar couldn't happen to you. Step up...not back. Your school has a great hockey tradition, but without support, it's toast.

FWIW...in 4 of the 5 games I saw your team play this year (all against BG), your team looked: lethargic, disinterested, and confused. I know BG is a relentless, forechecking team; and that their puck-possession style can disrupt the opponent's game plan...but the way we play shouldn't have caught anybody by surprise. There's some obvious talent up there, I can only assume your team was not prepared...and that lies directly on the head coach.

 

[Laker Dude]

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Look at Mass-Lowell out east. they brought in a division 3 coach last year and he had them in the NCAAs his first year and they are ranked 6th in the nation in his second year. The year before he took over,they were 5-25-4 I believe.

What is frustrating is that the Lakers played great against Miami all 4 games this season, winning a 1 goal game and losing 3 one goal games. I did not mind them losing those games because the effort level was there.

It is the games like Saturday and Sunday where it looks like they have no compete level at all that bothers me. After the Miami series, we were saying the Lakers could be competitive in the post season, if they played like that the rest of the way. Unfortunately, they never brought that type of intensity at Northern or against BG.

 

[jnacc]

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Don't do it. When your program is struggling is PRECISLY when the season ticket holders, boosters, alumni and community need to step up. College athletics (especially at smaller schools) are NOT businesses in the same fashion of pro franchises. There's no revenue sharing to split billions in TV money. Did you see how close we here in BG came to losing our program 4 years ago? Don't delude yourself into thinking something similar couldn't happen to you. Step up...not back. Your school has a great hockey tradition, but without support, it's toast.

FWIW...in 4 of the 5 games I saw your team play this year (all against BG), your team looked: lethargic, disinterested, and confused. I know BG is a relentless, forechecking team; and that their puck-possession style can disrupt the opponent's game plan...but the way we play shouldn't have caught anybody by surprise. There's some obvious talent up there, I can only assume your team was not prepared...and that lies directly on the head coach.

There is little else fans can do other than withhold their money by refusing to support a program that does not wish to address its obvious problems. The powers that be at Lake State must know that their results are unacceptable and will not be supported until a change in the coaching staff is made. We here in the Soo are certainly blessed to have a D-1 hockey program but that in no way should mean that the program and school should take us for granted, especially when there is a very good Junior A team competing for dollars and a Major Junior program that seems to have righted itself (by a coaching change no less) featuring top flight future NHL talent right across the border.

 

[DB Cooper]

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What is frustrating is that the Lakers played great against Miami all 4 games this season, winning a 1 goal game and losing 3 one goal games. I did not mind them losing those games because the effort level was there.

It is the games like Saturday and Sunday where it looks like they have no compete level at all that bothers me. After the Miami series, we were saying the Lakers could be competitive in the post season, if they played like that the rest of the way. Unfortunately, they never brought that type of intensity at Northern or against BG.

I didn't get a chance to post a few weeks ago, but this reminds me again how much I like watching Miami play. The level of intensity from the players and coaching staff is great. I know at this point they also have high end talent, but from the beginning of his tenure, Rico's team have shown this high level of effort. They had some tough years initially, but turned it around. I see BG in the same light. The few times I've seen them in the past few years reminds me of Miami from 10 years ago.

Over the years, too many times to count, I have heard the phrase "the Lakers deserved a better fate." No they don't. They get exactly what they deserve. It's not about the bounces, the refs, the funding, the facility or the phase of the moon. The Laker players don't try hard.

Sorry to vent. I know it's not the most constructive post.

 

[sm2pk]

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I didn't get a chance to post a few weeks ago, but this reminds me again how much I like watching Miami play. The level of intensity from the players and coaching staff is great. I know at this point they also have high end talent, but from the beginning of his tenure, Rico's team have shown this high level of effort. They had some tough years initially, but turned it around. I see BG in the same light. The few times I've seen them in the past few years reminds me of Miami from 10 years ago.

Over the years, too many times to count, I have heard the phrase "the Lakers deserved a better fate." No they don't. They get exactly what they deserve. It's not about the bounces, the refs, the funding, the facility or the phase of the moon. The Laker players don't try hard.

Sorry to vent. I know it's not the most constructive post.

I think the team and the fans all need a B-12 shot . Being at a Laker game is like being at the library with the silence you hear and you watch the other teams and the players do seem more pumped up than the Laker players .

 

[Truth Squad]

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Jim Roque isn't going anywhere.

Despite a losing record basically every year, second half collapses, early playoff exits, crowds closer to 500 than 2500, and the same excuses for now eight years running. A new conference and some fresh paint on the empty seats and gondolas aren't going to save your once proud hockey program built by Frank Anzalone up there, under this head coach. Next year will be more of the same, the good ole boys that run your little village and college, want this man around for whatever reason, because the record and multiple players leaving, and the continued losing seasons and lack of fan interest clearly don't matter much.

Blame someone else, former players, coaches, refs, bounces, the CCHA, unfair for small schools, lack of money, no other coaches will come, or whatever this off-season's new batch of excuses that will be used. I'm sure you uppers will come to his defense once again and it is always very amusing to me to see what excuses his lap dogs on here put forth, even after another season like the last, and the one before, and the one before, and the one before. Golf season starts around this time up there, doesn't it?

FOUR!!!!!

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA

 

[PerkyforPrez]

With all due respect, go tell Domenic Monardo he didn't try hard. I would hope he punches you square in the mouth. He wouldn't, though, cause he is a class act.

So your not a class act ?

 

[Truth Serum]

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With all due respect, go tell Domenic Monardo he didn't try hard. I would hope he punches you square in the mouth. He wouldn't, though, cause he is a class act.

With all due respect, go tell Jim Roque he didn't coach hard, cause he is a class act, sir. Won't resort to violence to prove my point, this is an opinion forum, the last 8 years speaks for itself.

 

[PerkyforPrez]

I guess that is for you to decide, Perky.

Everyone can say what they want about bad coaching, mistakes, not playing to the appropriate level, etc; but DON'T say the Laker team didn't try. Did a few guys let up? Maybe, you would have to ask them. But there were guys on this team who **** well gave it everything they had every night for us fans (Domenic is one) and I am not going to sit here and let people **** on them in this thread. That is just gutless.

I know the players and some of them quite well. They know what they did and they know what this board is all about.

 

[sm2pk]

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I think everyone is at least on the same page after the nightmare hockey we all watched or listen to. After 8 years and giving up 13 goals in 2 games of play-off hockey , there isn't a whole lot of confidence left for people to have hope on .

 

[PerkyforPrez]

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I never said the players didn't try.