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Lake Superior State Hockey Lakers 2013-2014 (part II)

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All the recruits always sound good when they come to Lake State . Either they are playing in weak leagues or scoring most their goals against the weaker teams in the leagues they play in or the Roque coaching style just takes the air out of them.
 
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The BCHL has generally been considered to be the top Junior A league in Canada in recent years. Now that we're starting to pick up some guys from there, it will be interesting to see how they pan out. A lot of good young players from the States and Ontario even go out there to play.
 
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AnchorsAway said:
There are certain things in each profession that you just don't say. As a coach at the highest level of college hockey for a decade how have you not figured out to at least talk the talk and not make excuses and hide the fact that you don't even do what your job title is, which is coach?? If the players really aren't buying into JR, I don't blame them, the way JR runs LSSU's program is probably a sloppy step down from many of their previous junior programs.
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There are certain things in life you just can't do !
If the players really are scared by JR, don't blame them
 
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Bill said:
The BCHL has generally been considered to be the top Junior A league in Canada in recent years. Now that we're starting to pick up some guys from there, it will be interesting to see how they pan out. A lot of good young players from the States and Ontario even go out there to play.
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I think I remember on a coaches show, it was brought up that more of the players they would normally recruit from Ontario are going to the BCHL because it is not pay to play like other junior leagues. So they could still be recruiting the same type of player in the BCHL. I could be mistaking though.
 
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Bill said:
The BCHL has generally been considered to be the top Junior A league in Canada in recent years. Now that we're starting to pick up some guys from there, it will be interesting to see how they pan out. A lot of good young players from the States and Ontario even go out there to play.
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Roque spoke a bit about recruiting on this weeks Laker Hockey Show. He talked about the BCHL and how the league and it's coaches have gotten a reputation for trying to move kids along when the opportunity is there. Jr.A players are choosing the BCHL for that reason, regardless if they are from the US or many different areas of Canada. He had a lot of good things to say about the BCHL as a whole. He also said the USHL has become more money/business orientated. Their coaches would rather keep the kids until they max out, then move them on. He said if a NCAA coach is trying to recruit a kid with 2 years elegibility left, for the next season, that USHL coach will push the kid towards a different team that is trying to recruit him for 2 years out, so he can keep the player as long as possible. Granted this may not be the case in every recruiting situation but has been encountered more than once.
 
SmartAxe said:
Roque spoke a bit about recruiting on this weeks Laker Hockey Show. He talked about the BCHL and how the league and it's coaches have gotten a reputation for trying to move kids along when the opportunity is there. Jr.A players are choosing the BCHL for that reason, regardless if they are from the US or many different areas of Canada. He had a lot of good things to say about the BCHL as a whole. He also said the USHL has become more money/business orientated. Their coaches would rather keep the kids until they max out, then move them on. He said if a NCAA coach is trying to recruit a kid with 2 years elegibility left, for the next season, that USHL coach will push the kid towards a different team that is trying to recruit him for 2 years out, so he can keep the player as long as possible. Granted this may not be the case in every recruiting situation but has been encountered more than once.
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Older freshman are better for smaller schools like LSSU to compete with the BIG.
 
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SmartAxe said:
He also said the USHL has become more money/business orientated. Their coaches would rather keep the kids until they max out, then move them on. He said if a NCAA coach is trying to recruit a kid with 2 years elegibility left, for the next season, that USHL coach will push the kid towards a different team that is trying to recruit him for 2 years out, so he can keep the player as long as possible. Granted this may not be the case in every recruiting situation but has been encountered more than once.
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I heard that too and that may be what Roque is personally encountering, but I don't think the evidence supports it as a blanket USHL/NCAA statement. Maybe it's more of an issue with small school programs. If you look at the recruiting web sites, you'll see that a lot of 19 year olds from the USHL, and a fair amount of 18 year olds, are moving on to Div 1 programs. They aren't maxing out to 20 years in the USHL. This is especially true for the kids that are being recruited by the big name schools. I don't know what the exact cut off is for birth dates and using up Junior eligibility, but in general kids with 93 birth dates (and maybe early 94) are the ones who are currently maxing out in Juniors. You'll see very few 93 birth dates on the recruit web sites for kids committing to Div 1 schools for next season from the USHL compared to those with 94 and 95 birth dates. Or to look at it from another angle, check the rosters of the USHL teams. They pretty much all have a few 20 year olds, but not many. If USHL teams were really trying that hard to hold on to their players until they max out, you would expect to see a lot more 20 year olds on their rosters.
 
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Dommett is supposed to be back in the lineup tonight. Hopefully he's healed enough to be effective. Good skater.
 
Suze said:
Oh good! When UAA went to Alabama the team got stuck down there for an additional week due to flight cancellations and such.
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I believe that after Wisconsin they got stuck in Minneapolis, getting home just in time to sweep Mankato
 
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Bill said:
Dommett is supposed to be back in the lineup tonight. Hopefully he's healed enough to be effective. Good skater.
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It will probably take him a couple games for him couple games for him to shake the rust off and get his legs back. Lakers must sweep this weekend and get at least a split next weekend.
 
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Pink Pony said:
I bet it is from former LSSU NHLer's.
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Haven't heard from 3roquenight in quite sometime or the usual Roque apologists, although there are still many on here and especially up at that college and in that town. Year 10 will be the best one yet for Lake Superior under Jim Roque!!!
 
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Nice 5-3 win for the Lakers tonight. Ten different players chipping in with points. Lakers actually outshoot an opponent 32-26.
 
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Not the prettiest win, but I'll take it. Lakers need to cut down the goals against but at least they managed to keep UAA at a reasonable 26 shots. Also the PP did pretty good and Dommett had a goal in his first game back.
 
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We really need to win again tonight for the sweep. That way we go into next weekend's series at Northern no worse than in a tie with UAF (and maybe Bemidji and possibly even Northern depending upon the outcome of their games tonight). If we lose tonight, we're still looking up at all the other teams except UAH.
 
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